• bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            6 hours ago

            I would assume that the requests sent from the torrent client to download data are not factored into the Upload amount for the torrent. When they mean no upload, it would be that none of the data in the files they downloaded were shared with anyone else, making them a piece of shit leecher.

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      5 hours ago

      In copyright protection terms the ratio shouldn’t matter. They should pay for all the lost profits from pirating everything they’ve downloaded. Every time someone pirated it should be counted. And every time someone uses the AI trained on the data.

      They can become the corporate Jesus of the interwebs, having paid for our sins.

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        4 hours ago

        Technically, copyright infringement is committed by the entity making and sending the copy, not the entity receiving it. Leeching could indeed remove liability.

        I’m not sure if the courts have cared about that nuance when persecuting the ‘small fish,’ but I bet they would in this ‘big fish’ case.

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          3 hours ago

          If the receiving entity then ingests all that copyrighted material into its AI, and the AI sends it piece at a time to other receiving entities, that should be the AI infringing on everything it is copying to make its answers.

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            3 hours ago

            Yes, yes it should. But that’s a different act than the one being discussed here.