But I always think the libertarian “just legalise all the drugs” is just odd.
Regulated? So you mean preventing people from taking really stupid shit? Sounds great sign me up lol
People gotta accept there are trade-offs to living in a society, and one of those is that there’s a limit to which we allow each other to get high. Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a “war on drugs” style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)
You wanna take shit like meth? Cool, go out to the woods and never use socialised medicine where workers are at risk from people on such drugs, or just randoms walking down the street.
I don’t think taking hard drugs should put you in prison, or even give you a criminal record, but actually legalising the distribution? Nah. Go live in the woods/hills away from everyone else.
Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a “war on drugs” style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)
The first such drug that comes to my mind is alcohol. Its distribution was also criminalized in the past, eventually leading to an increase in organized crime.
That’s pretty much it, yeah. It’s worth noting, there is a lot of animosity on here, particularly from .world, for .ml and .hexbear instances. Both are heavily communist, far left communities, and get a bad rep because they are known for not accommodating liberal or other not as left viewpoints. This was particularly heated around the election with disagreements about voting for liberals vs protest voting.
Fwiw I’m a strong believer if we are to organize against literal fascism we will need the liberal and the farther left to find enough common ground to work together. It’s a…work in progress on here.
db0 (my instance and @Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com’ ) is a leftist anarchist instance and I’d say the animosity towards tankies is even stronger here.
it’s not anything to do with liberals vs leftists it’s that they handwave genocide and other atrocities as “western propaganda” and worship lennin and mao and stalin and north korea and so on and so forth.
While I think that’s inevitably true for some, I also think that sentiment gets exaggerated/overblown for others. Tankies are definitely prevalent, but there are also a lot of non tankie communists, and communists who will readily admit the failings of the dictators claiming to be communists throughout history. Genocide is an important issue for many of them, and is what pushed them away from Democrats most recently
Either way though, im not trying to argue any of these are morally correct or better than any other viewpoint. But I do think it’s undeniable that the left needs more unification globally if there is to be any meaningful resistance against the rise of fascism, and we have more in common with each other than we do with any of the oppressors in government now or the Nazis who support them
All drugs should be legal and regulated.
Decriminalised use/possession, for sure.
But I always think the libertarian “just legalise all the drugs” is just odd.
Regulated? So you mean preventing people from taking really stupid shit? Sounds great sign me up lol
People gotta accept there are trade-offs to living in a society, and one of those is that there’s a limit to which we allow each other to get high. Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a “war on drugs” style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)
You wanna take shit like meth? Cool, go out to the woods and never use socialised medicine where workers are at risk from people on such drugs, or just randoms walking down the street.
I don’t think taking hard drugs should put you in prison, or even give you a criminal record, but actually legalising the distribution? Nah. Go live in the woods/hills away from everyone else.
The first such drug that comes to my mind is alcohol. Its distribution was also criminalized in the past, eventually leading to an increase in organized crime.
holy shit I can’t believe I’m agreeing with a .ml user about something
I’m new here, does .ml users have a special reputation or what?
Tankies on .ml
tankies are everywhere
I honestly never heard the term “tankie” before a few days ago. What is it? Extremist communists?
That’s pretty much it, yeah. It’s worth noting, there is a lot of animosity on here, particularly from .world, for .ml and .hexbear instances. Both are heavily communist, far left communities, and get a bad rep because they are known for not accommodating liberal or other not as left viewpoints. This was particularly heated around the election with disagreements about voting for liberals vs protest voting.
Fwiw I’m a strong believer if we are to organize against literal fascism we will need the liberal and the farther left to find enough common ground to work together. It’s a…work in progress on here.
db0 (my instance and @Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com’ ) is a leftist anarchist instance and I’d say the animosity towards tankies is even stronger here.
it’s not anything to do with liberals vs leftists it’s that they handwave genocide and other atrocities as “western propaganda” and worship lennin and mao and stalin and north korea and so on and so forth.
While I think that’s inevitably true for some, I also think that sentiment gets exaggerated/overblown for others. Tankies are definitely prevalent, but there are also a lot of non tankie communists, and communists who will readily admit the failings of the dictators claiming to be communists throughout history. Genocide is an important issue for many of them, and is what pushed them away from Democrats most recently
Either way though, im not trying to argue any of these are morally correct or better than any other viewpoint. But I do think it’s undeniable that the left needs more unification globally if there is to be any meaningful resistance against the rise of fascism, and we have more in common with each other than we do with any of the oppressors in government now or the Nazis who support them