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I hate to say it, but now isn’t the only time it’s a problem.
This whole “you just need to practice more CBT skills” has been bullshit for like twenty fucking years or more.
I can “check the facts” all I want, if the facts are that things are irreparably and totally fucked and that this irreparability is hurting me directly I can’t “happy thoughts” my fucking way out of it.
I’m really tired of being told “you can’t change other people, so you need to work on yourself” when other people are allowed to be giant assholes their whole lives who never have to put one ounce of work into themselves and it’s me and everyone else who is a halfway decent person who has to spend their lives fucking working on ourselves.
The system is god damned broken and has been god damned broken when we practically reward the worst of us with never having to try to do better while telling the best of us that we just have to do better.
I’m really, really over it.
Overthrowing capitalism is a pretty effective coping mechanism from what I hear.
Isnt that almost impossible? I wonder how many lotteries you would have to win in a row to be as lucky as you would need to convince billions of people capitalism may be worse than another system and to do something about it
you dont have to convince people based on dry theory. revolution does not necessairily mean a momentary violent insurection that overthrows what was. a revolution can be the process in which you create the structures you wish to see in the future, in the here and now. you then convince people by showing them first hand that it works and that it benefits them.
here is a great video on how to construct the revolution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9K6ISx8QEQ
it has a bit of a slow start, and feels academic but its very very insightful. absolute recomendation.
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There are many, many reasons to be upset about the state of the world, but the purpose of CBT is similar to the purpose of stoicism. It is not meant to teach someone how to interface with society, but with themselves.
Nobody cares for the most part about the intended purpose at the end of the day, they care about the actual impact which is that CBT is a convenient framing to exclude the non-individualist reasons people are miserable.
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What you need to realize though is that you can only affect so much. Mostly if you need help you should help yourself first. Then if you’re happy and capable, you need to help others. Not the other way around. So get with it and don’t hang yourself up on “shit is fucked”. It is, but it has been worse and it also can get worse. But that doesn’t really matter for now, help yourself first if you need to.
Like ofc it’s not wrong to also help others.
The situation is hopeless and has always been. But that’s not as bad as it sounds and it frees you and me from the burden of the world. Do what you can, that’s enough.
I can highly recommend this video for reflecting on hopeless thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJaE_BvLK6U
I’m not having hopeless thoughts.
I’m having issues with CBT being used as a way to teach people learned helplessness where “you can’t affect other people.” Because, actually, society in aggregate (often called governance) can totally influence, affect, and change other people. We seemingly have given up on holding people who break the social contract accountable for anything while forcing those who do uphold the social contract accountable for everything. Fascism is the end-stage manifestation of that.
In my experience, in practice, it does more to teach people they can’t affect change more than it teaches them they can. It teaches them to be helpless on purpose.
Hey guys this probably isn’t the right place, but I’m new to mental health issues. About two weeks ago I started having crippling anxiety attacks, mostly at or right after work. I do intl logistics for my company so I’ve had a pulse on all this bullshit from the getgo.
At the same time I started having blood pressure issues, and the combination has a vicious feedback loop of anxiety > elevated heart issues > anxiety etc.
My doctor gave me 30 Xanax (and a plethora of heart meds), I’ve looked up self help type stuff to help with the anxiety… Mindfulness, breathing exercises, etc. Daily walks and exercise help the most but I feel so out of control of my emotions I don’t really know what to do anymore.
Should I talk to my GP and get on something long term? Therapist? Keep trying self help?
I’m 38 and otherwise healthy, no depression, slightly overweight but physically active and eating healthy. I stopped all my vices (nicotine, alcohol, most weed I still take edibles CBD) and I don’t know how to cope without being self destructive.
If anyone else is going through this and getting traction just let me know your experience I guess. I don’t know anyone irl as affected as me so I mainly just want validation I’m not alone and there’s a path forward.
I would definitely recommend trying therapy. Self help and meds will both help, but, for me, therapy made the biggest difference in the long run.
BetterHelp. Download it and talk to someone.
BetterHelp is not a good company.
Any help is better than struggling alone which is what these people are doing. As someone who actually uses the platform I’ve not had a bad experience and have had the same therapist.
Just because anecdotally, it’s okay for you, doesn’t make the company or its practices good. Nor will I excuse them. They have also ruined therapy for many, many people, who won’t go back or struggle to go to a therapist after getting “dumped” by BetterHelp. Or worse. I will not and would not advocate BetterHelp for anyone first therapy experience.
Being anxious and depressed is directly related to your awareness of the world around you. It’s not okay to be okay.
This is actually touching on a real new approach to mental healthcare, which is just accepting that “life is shit” and you’re kinda on your own to find meaning in it, or get to the next high-point that makes it worth living.
We have to stop expecting things to be stable, normal and comfortable. We had a good, smooth run, things are going back to normal now.
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can and the wisdom to know the difference.
Excellent psychological advice in the form of prayer. The fact that life is shit is one of things ypu cannot change. The wisdom to know the difference is the real skill.
This is an entirely different approach than most people are used to. My advice from a couple of combat deployments is to cultivate a task oriented mindset. What does that mean? It means worrying about the task you are doing right now and nothing else. That doesn’t mean you never look at the bigger picture. But if you’re at dinner, then you’re at dinner and you enjoy that. You can check when the next protest is, after dinner. You take each day like this and before you know it we’ll be voting Trump out of office.
before you know it we’ll be voting Trump out of office.
No offense, but this is a weird comment. How are we going to vote him out of office? Are we just accepting that he’s going to run for a third term? We can’t let him do that.
Next year are both senate and house elections. If we get blue 2/3ds in both chambers, we can pursue them to impeach Trump
