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Reposting from the last time this subject came up
Bolded titles are my top recs. Series listed in chronological order of my seeing them:
Steins;Gate (correction: episode 8 unfortunately has one character grope another one. Everyone rightfully calls him out for being a creepass)
Castlevania (shut up yes it is)
Vivy: Fluorite Eyes Song
Violet Evergarden (not the movie)
Hyouka (skip the ova)
Belle
A Silent Voice
Baccano
Deca-dence
Trigun
Akudama Drive
ACCA: 13 Territory Inspection Dept.
Fullmetal Alchemist
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Spy Family
Mushishi
5 Centimeters Per Second
Afro Samurai
Your Lie In April
Nichijou
Odd Taxi
Cowboy Bebop
Canaan
Sk8 the Infinity
Supercrooks
Bocchi the Rock
House of Five Leaves
Weathering With You
Haibane Renmei
Samurai Flamenco
BNA
Redline
Planetes
Last Exile
Witch Hunter Robin
Noir
Wolf’s Rain
Boogiepop Phantom
Boogiepop And Others
Ghost In The Shell (all timelines)
Niea_7
Serial Experiments Lain
Megalo Box
Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto
Samurai Champloo
Bubblegum Crisis
Ergo Proxy
Read Or Die (OVA and The TV)
Madlax
Moribito
Xam’d: Lost Memories
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
Kyousougiga
Orb: On the Movements of the Earth
Cyberpunk Edgerunners
Sonny Boy
Kiki’s Delivery Service
Thus concludes the exhaustive list of animes I’ve watched where I didn’t have to put up with any sexualization of minors
Castlevania is one of those shows that has no right to be good and yet is just overall great.
It has problems, mostly notably trying too hard to be edgy at times, but the character interpretations and the work done to make it all a consistent world are pretty good.
The first season leaned way too hard on the gore. The show is at its best when characters are having calm discussions imo
Yeah, that’s one part of edgy for edgy’s sake IMO. The other being absurd dialogues from nowhere, e.g. random anecdotes about goat fuckers.
This is an excellent list, Planetes is one I keep coming back to, I always have about it too anyone who will listen!
I’ll have to check out some of these others I haven’t seen.
Another good one is Monster, but it does have problematic relationships
I loved the Planetes manga, too bad it was so short
I was looking for someone to mention Ghost in the Shell and Cowboy Bebop.
What are your thoughts on Fullmetal Alchemist? I personally adore FMA: Brotherhood and I think it meets these criteria.
Yeah, they’re on the list but I understand it’s a long list
Loved em. Controversial opinion: I preferred '03 over Brotherhood. They made stronger narrative decisions, I prefer its Pride reveal over Brotherhood’s Wrath reveal (happening like 2/3rds into the show gave you a lot more time to build up trust in him before the reveal), and most of all I liked their homunculus origins better
Kotaro lives alone? Thought it was quite lovely.
It is now on my watch list
How has everyone forgotten about Gundam?
Great list, thank! Have you seen children of the whale ? If my memory is correct it could make it on this list. Also I don’t recall any weird stuff in Arcane season 1 (does it qualify as an anime though?).
Nope, but it’s on my watch list now. Top two recommendations on MAL are Land of the Lustrous and From the New World? I’ll watch it as soon as I finish Kurau
Edgerunners had that creep grooming David by sending him porn as a minor, and its just glossed over.
thematically appropriate for the setting. Night city is fucking horrible, and no one should pretend that it isn’t.
also, i just watched that, like, within the last couple hours recently.
The relationship between lucy and david feels kinda forced, but other than that, 9/10 no notes.
Gives three notes, claims no notes at the end.
*no additional notes
The question isn’t things being thematically appropriate. The question is animes that don’t sexualize minors, and Edgerunners fails at that.
Honest question: Assuming that you’re also referring to the creepy ripperdoc porn stuff. Is that really sexualizing the underage character? It does not seem to be something that is trying to make the character sexually attractive to the viewer. It does fit in with the hypersexualized setting and acknowledge that sexual thoughts and sexual identity don’t begin at age 18.
Showing minors in sexualy explicit situations, especially when its played off as a suprise gag and shows the actual content to the viewer, is sexualizing minors, yes. And the ripperdoc is still seen as a positive, to the point where David’s crisis of faith starts when he slams him against the wall when he’s beggining to psych-out and he feels bad, so it’s not like it really villianizes the character.
You keep using the setting like its a gotcha, but it doesn’t change anything by trying to shift the goalposts from the core of the conversation, about not sexualizing minors, i.e. not showing minors in sexually explicit situations, especially those meant to titilate the viewer. Feels akin to the “but she’s a 3000 year old dragon” arguements.
You can talk about coming of age topics and address the concepts without directly showing things on screen. Many pieces of media have done so without that, and do so with making clear the creep doing the grooming is not a positive character in the slightest.
Thanks very much for the long reply.
You can talk about coming of age topics and address the concepts without directly showing things on screen. Many pieces of media have done so without that, and do so with making clear the creep doing the grooming is not a positive character in the slightest.
This is indeed what gave me most conflict. The ripperdoc is a creep and didn’t seem very positive to my memory but I haven’t seen it for a quite a while. Not only was he being creepy but was basically a drug dealer (illegal BDs) preying on a kid, and was an enabler, helping David get into the fucked up life of a merc (and implanting the sande).
Been a minute since I watched it. You talking about the BD producer? Because that shit super ain’t glorified lmao
David’s ripperdoc shares porn with him.
Doesn’t violet evergarden have that weird relationship between the underage girl main character and the army guy (my apologies I haven’t see in it a while)
If you watch the english dub, it’s ambiguous enough to be interpreted as a father/daughter relationship. That’s also why I recommend skipping the movie
Unfortunately, the movie is a lot less ambiguous.
But also the movie doesn’t exist lalalala it never happened lalalala I can’t hear you
It would be cool if there was a movie though. Could be cool, as long as they didn’t decide to ship Violet with her slaver and also completely erase any character development she had re: learning to give up the Major and live her life for herself. How awful would that be?
Well perhaps they could do a movie focused on Violet working with another client, since that’s where the show always shined best. Maybe she should could tutor a young girl at a private academy or something. That might make for a good enough movie.
Thank you! I’ve been wanting to get into anime (more than just DBZ), but I’m never sure where to start
Add Onihei (iirc)
It’s on my watch list now, will probably make it onto this list next time the topic comes up
“doesnt sexualise underage character”
you sure this the list you wanted to paste here?
Do you have any disagreements?
I agree with the sentiment that loli shit is disgusting, but the problem is that so many of you sexless prudes go in looking for shit to be offended by and start projecting onto shit that’s fine. Like the character Kusano in Sekirei is fully gross, a disgusting pedo-bait character that simply should not exist in the story, period. That shit should absolutely be rallied against.
But then y’all bring up shit like Momo from MHA like it’s the same thing. It’s fucking not, at all. A post or near post-adolescent character wearing titillating attire in much the same way that comparable real life pop stars do is just not even remotely on the same level as actual children being depicted as sexual viable partners, especially in the context of a story like MHA where the protag is a literal high schooler expressing romantic interest in his age-appropriate peers.
And “glorifying unhealthy relationships” is fine enough critique I suppose but one that hardly applies solely, or even primarily, to manga and anime.
There’s a lot of terrible anime, but there’s also a lot of fantastic anime. There’s a lot of anime.
Just like with books. Or movies. Or videogames. It’s a medium, not a genre.
Not at all “just like.” You don’t have to wade through 90% of literary fiction or Hollywood films in order to find a handful of titles that don’t sexualize children or are otherwise fucking gross.
You do have to do that to find a handful of titles that aren’t displaying blatant racism, misogyny, homophobia and/or transphobia. So, yeah, 90% of Hollywood films are in fact fucking gross.
Vast majority of anime have sexualization of minors tho
mainstream amine maybe, but there is A LOT of anime out there.
your comment is like saying that Hollywood only ever made super hero movies.
Nah… Maybe the vast majority of what you watch but there’s so many out there spanning decades.
Astro Boy. Samurai Pizza Cats. Ergo Proxy. Ninja Scroll. Akira. Ghost in the Shell. Cowboy Bebop. Battle Angel Alita. Yowamushi Pedal.
On and on it goes…
If you’ve been keeping count, I’m curious to see your data.
Vast majority? Eh, maybe. I watch a crazy amount of anime, and I’ve only had a few of the shows I’m interested in pull that, and typically I just don’t continue watching. The one trope that I really dislike that gets shoehorned into almost any anime is the over-infatuation of a sibling. I’m not talking incest or anything, but for some reason there’s almost always a character who is obsessed with their sister/brother, and it weirds me out. Not enough to stop watching if the anime is otherwise good, but definitely enough to stop watching if the anime is just soso.
Now, oversexualization of adult characters? That’s almost unavoidable. I tend to just ignore it, until I show an anime to someone who hasn’t seen anime before and then I’m hyper aware of it. That’s why when introducing people to anime I usually pick Death Note or Fullmetal Alchemist. These anime have a good dose of the anime goofiness, but very little fanservice, almost none.
Only if you go explicitly looking for it, yeah.
An no fan service/no upskirt/cleavage shots.
And no racist depictions.
I’m sorry sir we don’t make those
So basically Miyazaki movies
I was going to say Knights of Sydonia, but in not sure all of those are strictly followed. At least there’s nothing overt. And a fantastic sci-fi to boot.
Edit: started re-watching on a lark and there’s A LOT more overt fan service than I remembered. At least it passes the Bechdel Test.
It’s lemonaid, I swear!
I think most of my list applies
Maybe without
Steins;Gate because of that scene where a guy gropes a girl (though everyone rightfully calls him out for being a creep)
Castlevania because sex scene
Akudama Drive because Doctor is heavily sexualized
Fullmetal Alchemist because Lust is Lust
Cowboy Bebop because Faye is kinda sexualized
Supercrooks because the intro (which is a bop and you should listen to it anyway)
Redline because of one scene with boobs
Ghost In The Shell because boobs
Niea_7 because the very racist Indian stereotype
Bubblegum Crisis because boobs
Read Or Die because cleavage
Cyberpunk Edgerunners because nudity (it’s Cyberpunk lol)
That looks like a lot of exceptions, but it’s only 12 out of 57 shows/movies
To be clear; nudity is fine, just not all-the-time, male-gaze shots put in akin to commercial breaks. Like Gurren Lagan; someone told me to try that one and ye gods the amount of times it was about boobs was ridiiiiiculous.
That doesn’t narrow it down as much as you think. What genre are you looking for?
fantasy isekai
Campfire cooking in another world and Welcome to demon school, Iruma-kun! are my main recommendations. There’s also some trash that would fit your criteria, but I wouldn’t recommend watching that (like that one slime tamer anime I can’t recall the title of). Also a dozen or so otome villainess reincarnation anime should fit your criteria, those are getting pretty popular now, though I haven’t watched any of the anime yet. Also some older stuff like Inuyasha might be up your alley, but honestly it’s been too long since I’ve seen them in their entirety, so I can’t really remember. Obviously Isekai is by far the most fan service-y theme in every possible way since most of it leans into power fantasy aspects to flatter the target demographic. In fact, if this was an actual honest question, I would recommend looking at the broader fantasy category, where there is a lot more variety and quality to be found.
I was mostly messing around, but thank you for the in depth write up. since we’re on the subject, what do you recommend for fantasy?
Frieren is the obvious recommendation, with character-driven storytelling focused on philosophical themes. It is genuinely one of the best shows I’ve seen and it’s rare that my expectations for a manga adaptation are blown out of the water so completely. Delicious in Dungeon is also excellent and has more of a focus on little details and creatures (and food, of course) with a very different approach to storytelling and a smaller scope.
I’m a big fan of the comedy and character design in Helck, even if the production quality of the anime can’t quite match up to my other recs. The manga is definitely visually superior. The contrast between the darker aspects of the story and the comedic delivery is pretty unique as well.
Mushishi is an episodic seinen anime focused on mythology and has some of the most beautiful background art, though it has more of a historical setting with supernatural fantasy elements. If virtual fantasy settings are allowed, then I recommend Shangri-La Frontier, which looks like Isekai at first glance, but thankfully is not. It’s also by far the most shonen anime on this list, but very entertaining.
Those are what comes to mind, but I’m sure I’m missing some obvious picks.
I’ve seen most of those (and read all of helck), except for mushishi and shangri la; I’ll add them to my list!
Ranking of kings, erased, the promised neverland, deca-dence, fullmetal alchemist, pokemon.
You might find some examples but the themes dont really lend to that.
If what you really wanted was of list of animes to avoid let’s start with Basilisk.
Definitely Monogatari or To Love-ru or KissxSis
3gatsu no lion
Working in manga, the amount of titles I have to throw out of consideration for licensing because of these issues is insane
“Erm acturally shes canonically 100,000,000 years old, she just has the body of a 14 year old” -☝️🤓
- Oishinbo - about a newspaper food reporter / gourmet
- Hinomaru Sumo - about a high-school sumo wrestler
- Hyouge Mono - about a Sengoku-era aesthete
- Warau Salesman - about a vengeful demon who punishes unhealthy urges
- Kaiji - about a gambling addict (who usually has to develop trust to survive)
- Onihei - about an Edo-period crime investigator
- Nichijou - Surrealist sketch comedy. Art-style doesn’t give highschoolers weird proportions.
- Yoru wa Mijikashi Arukeyo Otome - They are all adults.
Nichijou is awesome. Funny thing tho, it’s actually where I learned the word “moe”. There’s this part where Hakase is wearing these furry ears? or gloves? or something like that, and doing a funny pose. And her robot friend is like: “but that’s moe!” and the subtitles didn’t translate it any further, so I had to look it up.
I man how many Americans show would pass that. Doesn’t glorify unhealthy relationships covers a lotof stuff.
No psycho pass fans?
Only the 2 first seasons
Only the first season
FIFY
Although I actually found the movie quite tolerable.
the whole series is fantastic. i think the biggest problem its had is just the time between releases.
Yeah honestly not sure if I even saw season 3.
Mushishi
Does Inuyasha promote bad relationships? 🤔
I mean, Inuyasha himself is constantly hung up on his dead ex-girlfriend, and his dead ex-girlfriend still hates Inuyasha for killing her, even though he didn’t and she fucking knows it was actually Naraku.
Meanwhile his current maybe girlfriend is only like 16 and he at least a hundred years old.
I thought about this a lot the other day.
Its “justification” is in that era girls go married off even younger than that.
That monk dude has to turn away a girl who’s… 14(?) after she asked him to take her with him and that she’d bear his children.
Personally, in that setting I think it’s fine as long as they are not like fanservice to the viewer and its actually plot relevant. The monk asking her originally is more for humor as it was clearly shown as ridiculous and when it was more “legal” he took it more seriously and shot it down. That kind of humor is definitely a product of its era (wasn’t the age of consent in Japan like 12 until less than a few decades ago?)
Also regarding Kagome, this anime was written by a woman and one of the main demographics is schoolgirls who want their heart to flutter by imagining themselves in a pseudo-isekai. Not saying it makes it right but it personally doesn’t bother me because I get why stories like that exist coughTwilightcough
EDIT: The constitution set it to 13. But most prefectures up-ed it to 16 in recent decades apparently
This plot summary is not exactly encouraging me to get into it.
I find that if you want good anime recommendations, the recommendation must come from someone that doesn’t like anime. Anime fans tend to be really out of touch with certain baselines… like not being an open pervert.(I’ve seen that hentai hoodie, don’t lie.) Also people who don’t like anime can distinguish between “good for an anime” and “good”.
So I offer mine: Cyberpunk Edgerunners and Spirited Away.
Anime fans tend to be really out of touch with certain baselines… like not being an open pervert.
Part of the problem with recommending anime is that if all you care about is eliminating prev, you’re going to miss some gems.
Like, are you really going to hang Evangelion out to dry? Are you tossing Sailor Moon and Card Capture Sakura in the dumpster over some skimpy outfits? Kill a Kill is crazy pervy, but it’s also an incredible ride.
So I offer mine: Spirited Away.
Miyazaki is a treasure. But imagine passing on Kiki’s Delivery Service or Princess Monanoke.
and Cyberpunk Edgerunners
Rebecca alone. Come on. How is that not underaged sexualization.
Haven’t watched the other miyazaki movies so I’m not the person to recommend them.
And Rebecca is very obviously not a child. She’s just short. She literally gave a dude a blow job barely off screen no way would that shit fly if she was a minor. Lol.
I watched Edgerunners a few weeks ago, and I was kinda surprised by how little Rebecca bothered me. Aside from her introduction, she isn’t sexualized any more than any other female character except Dorio, and her personality really clashes with her character design. Visually she looks young, but actually watching the show, she didn’t really read as child-coded to me
It’s funny, because I don’t like a single anime you just mentioned.
shrug
That’s too bad.
As a not anime fan, mine were Samurai Champloo, Bleach (though I stopped 100 episodes in), Cowboy Bebop. Also all of Ghibli.
I’ve seen that hentai hoodie -
at the high school I worked at.
After giving the medium a chance, not sure I wouldn’t call myself a fan anymore, but I certainly take issues with the typically associated tropes. So here’s my list of more recent shows with either very little or none of these.
Solo leveling Hells paradise Chainsaw man Jujutsu kaisen Demon slayer
Vinland saga Attack on titan
Dan DA dan
Bluelock
Hunter x hunter Spy family Bocchi the rock Apothecary diaries
- JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure (Please start on part one)
- Outlaw Star
- Trigun
- Cowboy Bebop
- Space Dandy
- Panty and Stocking with Garderbelt
- Mob Psycho 100
- Samurai Champloo
- Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
No Dungeon Meshi?
Haven’t seen it, I’m only suggesting stuff I am familiar with.
Watch it, it’s very good.
Nabbing a copy of it now, or whenever my torrent client is active. :)
Outlaw Star! Aisha Clan Clan, my beloved queen. The first cat girl crush lol. Very nostalgic.
I remember this as a kid on Toonami, one day they said “asshole” or something (I don’t remember) and my dad was angry and told me I can’t watch it anymore because they swore.
My brother was mad at Toonami not airing the Beach episode, and since it had a critical plot moment, it made a later episode feel like an ass pull. Years later he learned an episode was skipped.
But Aisha Clan Clan is a good waifu.
SPACE Dandy wa
I really loved Space Dandy, but if you’re claiming it doesn’t sexualize women, the entire restaurant of Boobies would like to have a word with you.
ETA: And we meet Meow doing upskirts.
I’m not claiming that at all. I was just responding to a post where they mentioned Space Dandy.
Although, the original post says “sexualize underage characters”.
And I think maybe Space Dandy does avoid that.
Cowboy Bebop had Edd running around in those shorts while floating around giving the audience almonds of angles of her body. In outlaw star the cat girl was the pedo.
Damn. I don’t watch anime but is this that widespread within the community? lol
Anime:
Hana to Alice: Satsujin Jiken
Irozuku Sekai no Ashita Kara
Mob Psycho 100
Net-juu no Susume
Ping Pong
Yuru Camp (avoid the onsen scenes)
Manga:
Bonnouji
Dad, the Beard Gorilla, and I
Futari Ashita mo Sorenari ni
Hoshi Mamoru Inu
How Pathetic We Are
I Sold My Life for 10,000 Yen per Year
Karakai Jouzou no (Moto) Takagi-san
Yotsubato
