I feel like this would be a more appropriate template to use for this meme.
Yeah, why was this presented as an ominous choice? Conservatives have been doing this for decades at this point.
Bannon, Bobert, Charlie Kirk, have all called for a child molester to be the one to lead a special investigation into it. So I’d have to say you’re 100% correct
yeah that’s like not even a choice for them. dude may as well have a promising sports career as far as they’re concerned
Hey now, MAGA has openly supported child molesters in the past, it is nothing new to them.
Yes, but in this case Trump tried to wind them up to try weaponize the Epstein case, and now he wants to leave them with outrage blue balls, while simultaneously calling then weak gullible fools.
Exactly. This is hardly a decision for them.
Who is former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert?
Right you are, Turd Ferguson!
Right, except now reality is proving you wrong. This is perhaps the one single issue where the conspiracy theorist crowd won’t just go along with what Mr. Orange says. And we know that because they haven’t, because they aren’t.
So they supported Trump when he admitted to being a sexual predator on several occasions.
They supported Trump when one of his victims came forward about his SA on her when she was 13 years old and ‘reminded him of his daughter’.
They supported Trump when the contestants of the Ms.Teen USA pageant reported that he would barge into their dressing rooms when naked.
They supported him when he made inappropriate comments to minors about dating them.
They supported Trump when he was convicted of Sexual assault.
Tell me again how they aren’t open supporting Child Molesters?
I believe that conspiracy brained Trumpets are mad about this, but not because they actually care about children. They want to bring down the Democrats on the list and think Trump is smart enough to scrub his and other Republicans names off the list and delete the footage of them before releasing it.
My guess is some Dems have copies of everything and have threatened they will leak it all if Trump tries something like that.
I don’t see how I am being proven wrong at all. The MAGA crowd just is too stupid to realize that the reason you’d hide a list of pedos is that you are on the list, but if they saw the list and saw he was on it, they’d defend him anyway. They already have been, for years, any time the photos of Trump and Epstein hanging out come up.
I’ve had a refreshingly easy time talking some sense into my more Nazi-leaning coworkers. This is one of those times that ‘both sides!’ is actually useful.
Just tell em it’s not a partisan issue: “Trump’s not releasing it cuz he wants to protect whichever republicans appear on it - maybe even including himself! …but don’t think this won’t shake the blue team to its core, too: think of how much of those files are just Bill Clinton! This will purge out the trash from the democrats and republicans, and maybe even prompt the two to actually get some work done instead fruitlessly bashing heads all the time.”
I’ve had pretty much zero resistance from the folks that are typically in 100% trumpanzee mode all the fucking time.
Awesome. Seize those moments. That makes me happy. I’m in food work right now and there are no audible trumpers in our kitchen. Colleagues tell me kitchens are all nazi or no nazi. That makes sense. One tendency dominates. Our kitchen is queer led and quite professional.
The obstacle is more a deep sense of learned helplessness. Labor has great power, but laborers are extremely vulnerable.
I mean, food service depends in no small way on immigrants, who, even if in good legal standing, are wary. The birthright citizens feel no less trapped. We talk about it openly.
I had similar luck making jokes about Jeff Bezoar’s opulent wedding. I expressed mock concerns about his ability to pay it off. Everybody likes shitting on the ultra rich, boths sides! I learned lots of new ways to jab Jeff because many had their own quick reply.
This is what builds movements. People with great disagreements find uniting principles. ‘Don’t fiddle kids’ is a generally held principle. So is ‘One person should not have too much power’.
People with too much power tend to fiddle with kids too. These issues are interlinked.
Reminds me of the old Dr Who/Mythbusters line “I reject your reality and substitute my own”
Except it’s “…and substitute the one I’m fed” instead
You mean The Dungeonmaster
According to my web search it was on Dr Who a full decade before The Dungeonmaster
Yeah but The Dungeonmaster
Yeah but Doctor Who
Do you guys remember Roy Moore from Alabama who sexually assaulted a half dozen women and girls, some as young as 14, and still only narrowly lost the primary?
I remember John Jessup, a Republican politician from Hancock County Indiana who was elected county commissioner after being arrested on Sexual Assault charges. After he was elected his daughter spoke up and said that it was her who had been raped. The response of the people of Hancock county was “Well, we didn’t know it was his own daughter he raped when we elected him!” Because just being a rapist wasn’t bad enough I guess.
Fortunately is ass is rotting in jail. I guess he couldn’t afford to buy a pardon. Still I’m a little surprised that Trump didn’t pardon him, I know Trump can relate to wanting to sexually assault his own daughter.
I feel like everybody is going to regret all this gloating when they release the list and it contains only Bill Clinton, George Soros, Obama, AOC, Mamdani, etc along with every lefty influencer and anyone who made a comment on reddit in support of Luigi Mangione. Some of the people on the list won’t even have been born when Epstein Island was in full swing, but it won’t matter, MAGA will swallow it whole and demand executions because of course they will.
No. Out them all, now. Either we’re ok with child predation or not.
I don’t think you actually read what I wrote.
Am moving rn and did miss part if your message.
They’re implying that the list will be made up to fuck over democrats. Not that it will be a real list with Luigi supporters.
I like how you had to lay it on super thick, and it still wasn’t enough.
Opposition to Epstein’s crimes are far too interwoven into the fabric of the cult-right/q-anon cult’s identity and mythos for them to let this go. Its not that they care about children, its that even Trump doesn’t supersede the collective rage they’re attached too with their belief in a “secret evil cabal” and “deepstate”. Protecting children is just a convenient justification for what is mostly just bitter reactionary politics towards a changing world economy or culture. Always has been.
Even if with Epstein they’re at least overlapping with the truth (Epstein was a human trafficker and rapist and many who hung out with him were rapists as well), you shouldn’t mistake that reactionary rage for an earnest desire to fix things or protect the innocent. They just want a justification to hurt people. They want someone to burn at the stake.
Funny how after all the blatant corruption this is the issue that splits the MAGA cult. I guess Trump really isn’t untouchable. Maybe the Biden administration should have pushed to release the Epstein files before the election. Maybe they thought that would read as too politically motivated?
Funny how after all the blatant corruption this is the issue that splits the MAGA cult.
Whoa whoa there cowboy. This is barely into a news cycle. Give the puppeteers a chance to swing their propaganda blowtorches. The sheep will fall into line - they always do
This is longer than usual - he’s also gotten ratioed on truth social which he never has before. It’s normally 3 or so days for stuff to blow over within his camp. It’s been 9 days now since the DOJ issued their memo that’s sparked this all
I can’t tell you what things will look like for certain, but this is not business as usual. Trump also normally doesn’t directly insult his own supporters. He has been doing just that multiple times
Give them a bit longer and they’ll make something up.
Fair points but also he definitely does directly insult his own supporters, or at least he shits on huge groups of people and then those people still vote for him.
Now, in this case he did call them “past supporters” to give it that whole “no trye Scotsman” feel so that anyone left supporting him or wanting to support him feels good about themselves. It gives those idiots a way out of the insult.
Clinton doesn’t want them released.
Who still cares about either Clinton?
Garland (a Republican) was assigned as AG. Biden releasing files (especially if trump is in them and not letting AG do his work) would be perceived as a weaponization of AG (thing they were accused of).
Yes hindsight is 20/20 but at three time that looked sensible.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised. It’s all one big party for the rich and powerful.
We will see… There were so many of these.
As why this issue is big, is that while with others you could still play on outside and find some way to spin it, it is much more challenging to explain why not releasing Epstein files supposed to be a good thing.
it is much more challenging to explain why not releasing Epstein files supposed to be a good thing.
Fair point. There’s also the Pizzagate Republicans which I assume overlap heavily with MAGA
If Trump just leaned into this he’d have higher MAGA support and lower age of consent by the end of the day.
Everybody likes minors. That’s why there’s a law (Daniele Luttazzi)
That’s why there’s no definitely legal porn category.
Why are we even pretending that they aren’t fucking sprinting to the right? When trump goes low, his cult goes lower.
There’s been a non trivial incidence of MAGA people getting pissed about one of their central outrage issues, one that Trump himself fanned hard, getting dismissed while Trump simultaneously insults then over the issue.
They might not be “going left” or anything, but there does seem to be his “boys” (and “gals”) getting pissed at Trump specifically.
Gee I wonder which one they’ll choose
MAGA sticks fingers in their ears, starts yelling “nah nah nah nah” and runs down the middle until they fall of the end because death would be better than facing reality.
Oh, I thought they supported him in light of. Like they say they care about children, but they really don’t. Insert meme about all the things they support that are harmful to children. Catholic churches for example.
They don’t mind a pedophile, as long as its their pedophile. They defend and endorse toxic masculinity, rape culture, and control of women’s bodies. In the end, the message from Trump will be “yeah, I did it, but so what, right?” He said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose a follower - well its worse than that. In the same way he normalised and emboldened fascism, he will do the same for the sexual abusers. Soon, the right will be talking about how the girls on Epstein’s island weren’t that young, they were there by choice, they got paid, etc.
the clintons and many establishment democrats are probably also inplicated, so really we’re all right and it’s a win for us all
I doesn’t matter what the right path says, they will NEVER take the left one.
