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That’s weird. Does that mean they can’t say “no rice or spice” anymore too?
Or maybe the rampant drug use and sales?
Not difficult to realize why when you realize who owns it along with many of the other dating apps.
Don’t be antisymptomatic
This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it’s fine (even if it wasn’t true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.
It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
How is nobody calling out the fact that millions of Americans think that creating the State of Israel is supposed to fulfill their sadistic, hateful, apocolyptic prophecy fantasy of eternal punishment for people that dare to test their fickle faith. This is a large part of why this world sucks right now. Other than this simple quagmire, world control is about the almighty profit, but this is where these Americans will act counter to profit.
You think its weird America is fascist? Have you been paying attention to anything the past forever?
It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
Careful buddy. This is an antisemitic trope. The real reason is much simpler. America is just a really evil imperialist entity that will back a fascist settler colonial state in the middle east for geopolitical/oil reasons rather than it being controlled by Israel.
Israel has no ability to control America. Its population is too small and it is almost entirely dependent on US support. If America says jump Israel says how high. America is weird about Israel because it desperately wants to be and it desperately wants to be because the countries voiced ideals do not match is actual reality.
I didn’t say it’s run by Jews I said Israel. If you haven’t noticed Israel is a country that is separate from ours and has been acting horribly. I am allowed to call that out. Don’t start that bullshit. Not all Jewish people agree with Israel they use that as an excuse to cover their atrocities and you are only helping them.
If Israel has no control here why does our president do everything their president asks him to? Seems like they have some form of control even if its not stated explicitly
If America says jump Israel says how high.
Man if only Israel got punished by the US for doing that and continued to act like a rabid dog proving your point rather than getting a free pass proving my point that Israel is they way that it is because America wants it to be that way.
This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it’s fine (even if it wasn’t true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.
With you so far.
It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
DANGER WILL ROBINSON: That’s cutting it pretty darn close to the whole Jewish cabal bullshit. Your country is not secretly run by Israel. It’s run by reactionary old farts, who’s more afraid of being called antisemitic, than they value human rights.
No it’s not. You are equating Israel to all Jewish people. That’s offensive!
Yeah pretending that the state of Israel represents all Jewish people seems kinda antisemitic to me. Just erase Jewish people all over the world.
“no zyonists”
“no zi onists”
“no z10n15t5”
That’s something that every company can easily detect.
Yeah, but then they need to hire a guy to maintain the regex. And you could do something like “read every 3rd letter” and make that guy cry.
And yet Grindr never manages to filter out all the bots with “0NLYFANS” in their bios
There is definitely not any sort of quid pro quo between those entities.
I bet they are fine if you say you support “settlers” though.
That term pisses me off so much. What human scum those people must be
Looks like the community needs a foss alternative
There’s Alovoa. Unfortunately, last time I checked, there were not many people on there
Tbh it’s been terrible lately. Free services increasingly go behind a paywall, they’ve limited how many convos you can have (invisibly, they just fall off), they show you fewer and fewer people.
The fediverse could be really useful in the dating space - capitalism means they never really want you to find The One, because then you might delete the app.
I’m thinking this could be a fedi instance a front-end app and a small subscription donation for paid moderation. Now if only I wasn’t a brain damaged vibe coder with no idea where to start building out that idea
I think it could happen, but it would have to be a foss app and a paid service or funded by ads, because you need paid people to moderate services like that, moderation on lemmy is about civility and people being mean to eachother, but moderation on a dating app might involve dealing with sexual assault and other illegal things in a much more prominent way. Or it would have to be funded by a government or charity which is not very likely in the present.
Could probably crowd fund professional mods and infrastructure. Was always confused that the counter culture types don’t do more underground things like that over using rainbow capitalism. But I’m not part of that world so I have no real idea
Zionism is gay
That makes it sound appealing though
Did Grindr get paid by the ADL or something? Either way it could be bypassed by just saying “no genocide apologists” lol
“No ethnic nationalists”
The RNC is in town but our sever isn’t crashing; why’s that?
Clearly, other ideologies are also blocked then correct? Like, you can’t say, “no Christian nationalists” or “no white nationalists” or “no fascists” or “no Neo-Nazis” or “no MAGA”. Right? Right?? You have to accept and expose yourself to all dangerous ideologies equally.
from the article:
Several users received an error message that says “The following are not allowed: no zionist, no zionists,” when they tried to add the phrases to their bios on Thursday. I tested this myself on a new Grindr account, and received the same error message. I was able to add “Zionist” to my profile (without “no”), however, and could also add any phrase I could think of: “no Arabs,” “no Blacks,” “no Palestinians,” “no Muslims,” “no Christians,” “no Jews,” “no trans,” “no Republicans,” “no Democrats,” and so on. “No Zionist[s]” was the only phrase that was blocked in my testing.
Ah, time for new lingo to pop up.
I propose we go with “no zucchinis”
It’s both innuendo, and can convey the word for Zionist
No Z-words
Someone unalived all these zucchinis
Not sure if you intended this double entendre but https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Zucchini is already associated with platonic relationships in a queer context. Which I could see as being useful cover for a hookup app, but just making sure.
Are there platonic hookups on grindr??
What if we really don’t like actual zucchinis? “No green summer squash” doesn’t have the same ring.
Also, how are we supposed to exclude Zion Williamson fans?
In the Matrix the last human city was called Zion. they lived under the ground where it was still warm. Essentially Cave Dwellers. So just call them dwellers. “No Dwellers”
What is Grindr?
It’s an app that republican politicians use to get dates while on the road campaigning or at conventions.
Cmon, no need to associate a popular gay dating app with republicans like it’s a bad thing. Enough to criticize the party for without bringing sexuality into it.
Honestly, if these republican leaders were honest and open about their homosexuality, I’d respect that. But they push strong anti-gay policies, gussied up as “family values,” and then when they’re out in the road away from their families they hit up Grindr. That I can’t respect. Gotta call out that hypocrisy.
I am sorry if that bothers you.
Fair enough, thanks for explaining!
It’s referencing the spikes the app sees whenever there’s a republican event around.
“On the night of July 17—the Sunday that check-in for the [Republican National] convention began—there was a 120 percent increase in users online in the area, more than all previous evenings in July. As of last Wednesday, a representative from Grindr tells Broadly, “more than a thousand guys have used the app near the Quicken Loans Arena.” The total attendance of the RNC is estimated to have been roughly 20,000 people, so this data suggests about five percent of attendees used Grindr during the convention.”
https://www.vice.com/en/article/cleveland-was-bombarded-with-white-dudes-on-grindr-during-the-rnc/Imagine making an arena sport out of quicken loans
No.
Too late, I already did, now speedbanking is in the olympics
Still better than Raygun
They bring sexuality into it with their policies. This is criticizing their hypocrisy about sexuality.
Gay hook-up/dating app that pre-dates Tinder. In fact, it inspired Tinder.
I always thought it was the other way around, TIL!
a dating/hookup app for LGBT+ people
i thought it was just for Gay people.
It started as that, but when you have an app designed for hookups and sex, turns out what type of a person you are in bed and what’s between your legs are actually very relevant information, so they just opened it up.
Oh my, this news is gonna get me in a lot of trouble. Thank you very much xoxo xxx
oh, makes sense
Alternative phrases to use:
- No reactionaries
- No genocide supporters
- No apartheid supprters
- No IOZ/GDF supporters
- Class conscious workers only
Exactly. Censorship, ultimately, doesn’t work.
Remember, “the net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” While we’re talking about just one website, the above quote really speaks to online culture and, perhaps, humanity in general.
I assume GDF means Genocide Defense Force, but what do you mean by IOZ?
Israeli Occupation Zone
Yeah that’s fucked. If you are going to let people say “No Christians” or “No Muslims” then “No Zionists” ought to be allowed.
Zionism isn’t even an actual religious belief. It is a political one. A desire for a specific outcome and policies to support it
So it should be even less protected
My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity’s since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.
Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.
Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.
Just to confirm for you (from an atheist jew) yes zionism is also concerned with atheist jews. Also, yeah people should absolutely be allowed to say no zionists, I certainly wouldn’t want to date someone who doesn’t care about Palestinians.
TBH, I don’t know why a zionist would want to date someone who’d even put “no zionists” in their profile in the first place if anything this is just encouraging everyone to waste their time.
That’s not the reason for it. They want to ensure it isn’t normalized. If you start seeing a lot of people openly saying they’re anti-zionist, people who seem reasonable and generally agree with you, then you may consider that the propoganda you’ve been fed saying it’s wrong inst accurate.
A lot of young right wingers are complaining that people knowing their political stances makes it hard to date. They’re hoping to trick people into dating them, effectively.
I don’t see how this would matter though. In a dating app, someone who refuses to date zionists will notice if pro-zionism is on their profile and not match with them or even block them. If there is no mentioned zionism on the rightwinger’s profile and the rightwinger is trying to trick people into dating them whether the anti-zionist is able to post “No Zionists” on their profile is immaterial, the rightwinger will try to match with them regardless.
If a large portion of people are putting it in their profiles, NOT putting it can make you stand out?
If no one can, they won’t stand out. Sure they could lie, but now they don’t have to
Every single religion has extremists. Make a religion, you just made reliigious extremists. Support a religion, you support the same religion as religious extremists are supporting.
Religions support politics, and politicians, . They have to do that to achieve theocracy.
Every single religion tries to pull this bullshit. christians? Yep. muslims? Yep. jewish? Yep. hindu? Yep. It never ends. Keep religion very far away from everything, always. It ruins everything it touches.
zionism is not a religion though. it is a terrorist organization. can grindr allow you to say “no nazis”?
that’s anisemitism please ban and arrest
I mean “No Jews” is allowed so its not even that they’re worried about antisemitism.
No, no, antisemitism isn’t about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/
Though thats how alot of people treat it…
Antisemitism is everything I don’t like.
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Just fyi, the slash in /s or /sarcasm isn’t some weird bracket, it’s meant as an XML style closing tag, meaning “end of sarcasm”. In full it would look as follows:
<sarcasm>Things are going great!</sarcasm>
But people drop the opening tag and the <> for convenience.
No, the / has nothing to do with xml. It’s a fake IRC command.
They were all in the style of /commandname.
You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.
You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.
<message tone=“annoyed” mood=“indignant”>Speak for yourself</message><snap />
I’m aware of slash commands. If it’s a /sarcasm command, why would it be at the end of the statement?
What’s your source for this? I’m pretty sure “/s” means “end of sarcasm”, borrowed from XML/HTML.I don’t remember ever seeing
/s
on IRC.
It’s always meant</sarcasm>
to me.
not all Jews are zionists
In fact many Zionist are antisemitic. They want Jewish people to have their own nation so that they’ll go live there instead of near them.
Not all Zionists are Jews. Humanity really needs to stop our imperialistic ways. Every piece of land is accounted for and to get more you have to bury the people who reside on it.
The vast majority aren’t
Or start building underwater cities!
that’s also true
I get no Jews as in people of Jewish faith but no Jews as in the ethnicity would get iffy fast. No blacks or no whites or no mulattoes or whatever can be a bit oof even though everyone has their preference
More importantly, what’s a Zionist doing on Grindr? Nethaniadolf doesn’t seem the type to be very rainbow friendly.
Well, not every zionist likes Netanyaho. In fact I think even among them the majority dislike him because basically most of almost every group dislikes Netanyaho ATM. Hes only still in power because of political leverage, fear, etc. Sort of a “Hes a evil psychopath but what if we get instability in this turbulent war time by removing him?”
Also I’ve 100% encountered zionist LGBT people on dating apps. They’ve been either Jewish or Centrist Libs.
Or because of “poor relations” between Islam and LGBT… Which is mostly just any religion and LGBT. Seeing zionism as a lesser evil to Islamic fundamentalism that they associate with Palestinian Nationalism.
There are quite a few magats and conservatives on there.
Let’s take these serious for a moment and pretend that anti zionist = nazi
and zionist = jew
Does grindr really want that Jews meet up with nazis unexpectedly in a private place?
Nazis on Grindr? You must be kidding. No self respecting nazi would ever choose to be gay…
/s just in case that needed to be stated…
They’re not gay! They just happen to have SSA (Same sex attraction)
/s
some of the cutest furry art works were made by gay nazis
The nazi presence in the furry movement is really under estimated by people who’re outside the subculture. There’s, like… there’s a lot of them in there, guys. Recruiting from persecuted groups is already standard operating procedure for fascists, and the furry community notoriously has both money, a great deal of practice at forming groups that insulate their members from criticism, and a real serious problem with sexism. Unfortunately, it makes for the ideal environment to grow far-right movements.
That’s… informative.
Oh please, it’s always the bible thumping hellfire preaching black man lynching baptist pastor/senator that is caught with three underage dicks in his mouth in an airport men’s room. ALL nazis are gay.
Damned Bible humpers.
People don’t seem to grasp what “Nazi” actually means anymore. That these people literally want to murder others on a large scale.
Corporations embrace fascism as shallowly as they did DEIA and queer acceptance, but all it takes is a couple of inches of depth to drown if you fall down and become vulnerable… which is something the businessmen and oligarchs, distracted by the incredible gains in wealth they are accruing from the firesale of the foundations of society torn down by fascists, only perceive as a slight annoyance, an ankles deep rising of water, oh no my fancy leather dress shoes are ruined!
Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.
Jews or Israelis make a strange argument when they call someone from the US like me anti-semitic for being against Israel’s actions. This is a circus people who grew up in the post 9/11 US know intimately, Israel is the modern post cold war colonialism of the US echoed into a different context.
Just because I do not intimately understand the full vibrant depth of history that forms the context that the countless weapon systems, bombs and associated training FROM MY COUNTRY are used to erase doesn’t mean I do not understand the process of erasure and have an indisputable stake in maintaining my moral integrity given the moral weight falls directly on my country for providing the machinery for erasure.
Scholars writing about this time will draw a direct throughline from US colonialism and genocide to the genocide of Palestinians, which isn’t to say Israel does not also uniquely bear a terrible weight here that will last far longer than any of our lives.
I am against anti-semitism, I despise it. So is every anti-Zionist worth their salt and if I know one thing about the activists who show up to champion these causes it is that they will not tolerate people who violate basic human decency no matter if they are on their team or not… that is PRECISELY why they showed up to the protest in the first place. Focus on them as your enemy at your peril for the rightwing is turning very clearly on judaism as a scapegoat even as we speak…
“It seems pretty explicitly pro-colonization and protecting of the ideology that genocide and ethnic cleansing are okay for certain groups to perform as long as it upholds your own personal or capitalistic interests,” Green, a Grindr user I spoke to who also saw this error message, told me. “It’s gross. And to put energy towards protecting a blatantly bigoted ideology and not put the same energy towards protecting minority groups is pathetic. So fuck Grindr and its inability to intersect queer oppression with the oppression of other groups.”
Don’t mistake these words for arguing this is too complicated to understand, that we must all learn even more divisions and categories… no this is the opposite. Our voices call for a simplicity of kindness, which recognizes the foundational humanity of all before any further judgement, a virtue honored by all the worlds major religions for obvious reasons.
Zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.
Judging by the rest of your comment, I think you meant anti-zionism is not anti-semitism.
With that said, I agree wholeheartedly.
Personally I’ve always found it quite antisemitic to prescribe all people of the Jewish faith the opinions of the state of Israel, and in turn hold them accountable for the states actions.
When people say anti Zionism is equivalent antisemitism that’s what they are doing, and in turn removing all agency from people of the Jewish faith.
I have yet to ask people who make the argument about this though, but I assume it’d be a shitstorm.
For sure. Zionism itself is very anti-Semitic for that reason.
I was correcting a typo in the post above.
I don’t agree that zionism is anti-semitic per se, because it’s possible to be a zionist without implying all jews are zionists.
Sorry, it wasn’t meant to be directed at you as if you held the opinion. I can see how it could be read like that.
It was meant as more of an apropos to your comment.
oops yes thank you!