• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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        22 hours ago

        It absolutely does. By “good” cops, I mean those who follow protocols and are generally nice to the people they lord over.

        When I say ACAB, I am not necessarily weighing in on the individual character of all police officers (although often they do suck as individuals). What I mean is that the role that cops play in society is evil. The police are here to impose the will of the capitalist class on the working class every single day. Even if they follow protocols while doing it, even if individual cops rarely do “the right thing”, even if the “good” cop in your head or your social network or family is otherwise an excellent person outside their police work, all cops are still cops and therefore categorically evil.

        ACAB includes “good” cops because the police are a categorically evil institution.

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          14 hours ago

          I dare not imagine what sort of world you imagine we live in, frankly because I don’t care for your delusions! So please continue hating the police as an extension of the Coke brothers, who stay up all all night to stop you from jaywalking

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            13 hours ago

            So please continue hating the police as an extension of the Coke brothers

            Like we can agree to disagree on everything else but please I beg you don’t lump me in with the Koch Brothers 😭😭😭

            The police protect the Koch Brothers from the consequences of their actions. I’m against the Koch Brothers. I literally hate them and all the other capitalists who openly make our world uninhabitable. As an anarchist, I am anti-capitalist and anti-State.

            I dare not imagine what sort of world you imagine we live in

            One run by the capitalist class…I thought I made that pretty clear in my response.

            jaywalking

            Jaywalking is actually an excellent example of a bullshit, made-up crime that the police currently use to harass black and brown people, and was invented to help capitalists make the United States into a car-centered hellhole.


            Sorry I’m just so thrown off, what made you think I’m pro Koch Brothers? I want to make sure I don’t do it again even by accident 😭😭😭

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              For one you should look up what irony and hyperbole means

              For two in first world countries the rich only very mildly have more influence than that of the common for the multitude of laws ensuring so! The us might get there one, tho I doubt it for its not democratic in any semblance

              Are the rich an evil entity meant to corrupt the world? No they are not, should they take more obligations and duties on their shoulders for they are the most able to? Yes! Should they be hated for resisting that in an individualistic world in which people freeze and starve on the streets? No, and from those who believe so I would ask what they do for the common

              And in your fantasy how does the rich benefit for enforcing jaywalking, which apparently only colored folk do?

              • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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                For one you should look up what irony and hyperbole means

                I had no reason to believe that you were being hyperbolic or ironic.

                For two in first world countries the rich only very mildly have more influence than that of the common for the multitude of laws ensuring so!

                Yeah you’re living in Opposite World. Do you actually live in the US? I do, and I have for my entire life. Please look into the Epstein files, the Panama Papers, Elon Musk and DOGE and Donald Trump. You will see very quickly that protection of the rich from the consequences of their actions is the defining feature of the United States, regardless of which party is in power or who the figurehead is.

                Are the rich an evil entity meant to corrupt the world?

                No, they are a self-interested group of powerful people who share a common interest of maintaining the status quo. Whatever their internal state, evil or otherwise, this makes them my enemies.

                Should they be hated for resisting that in an individualistic world in which people freeze and starve on the streets?

                Yes!

                And from those who believe so I would ask what they do for the common

                Yeah but I don’t take anything from common people by…existing as a working class person? In contrast, the capitalist class continuously takes everything from the workers of the world. They steal our labor, paywall our knowledge, put all our natural resources behind fences and people with guns, and use their control to destroy our planet and make it uninhabitable for everyone.

                And in your fantasy how does the rich benefit for enforcing jaywalking, which apparently only colored folk do?

                Firstly, I want to clarify that I did not mean to imply that people of color actually are more likely to jaywalk. I meant to make two connected points:

                1. The police use bullshit offenses like jaywalking to harass black and brown people.
                2. Jaywalking is historically one of those bullshit offenses, and it was specifically designed to entrench car-centric culture.

                (1) is deep historical fact. Especially in America, the police are designed from the ground up to harass black and brown people because anti-black racism is foundational to every iteration of the United States.

                For (2), here is the literal second paragraph of the Wikipedia article on jaywalking:

                The arrival of the automobile in the opening decades of the 20th century led to increasingly deadly conflicts in the street, and the public was generally unsympathetic to motorists or to early attempts to legislate pedestrian behavior.[2][3] In response, the US automobile industry and associated organizations undertook public campaigns to identify pedestrians, often impugned as jay-walkers, as a problem to be managed in the new automotive age.[2] The first widely successful criminalization of jaywalking was enacted in Los Angeles in 1925, using legislation drafted by the auto lobby that inspired similar ordinances in other American cities.[2]


                I’m currently reading a book called Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams. Williams has created an incredibly detailed, nuanced, and well-cited book about the history of policing, obviously from an abolitionist standpoint. Of course I developed my views on police before starting this book based on my experiences, the news, and other sources, but it is still an enlightening read. Please add this to your reading list.

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                  -Weakest excuse I have ever heard, there is no shame in learning -I don’t live in the US, I said I live in a first world country; corruption of the few is not descriptive of all -Every group is self interested and cery very few extremist groups want to topple the status quo as such changes historically always ended in turmoil -You don’t give either to society, yet you ask for more from it! And the rest is not true! Your labor is not stolen you are willingly selling it to the entity you choose; discovering knowledge takes resources, its distribution takes resources, if the cycle was not self sustaining then there would be no new discoveries…