• FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io
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      10 hours ago

      [slopping intensifies]

      People hyping “AI” are the ones that seem like cultists to me. It’s not even artificial intelligence, they’re misusing the term to make money. They rebadged LLM.

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        9 hours ago

        There are extremist on both sides. But at least the anti-AI group has environmental responsibility on their side.

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          Environmental responsibility? That’s the only real argument they have and even that is on shaky ground.

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            Ahh yes, not the literal theft of billions of peoples’ work. Not prematurely replacing jobs with machines. Those are all totally cool things LLMs are doing!

            … You and your type are fucking clowns.

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              I mean, I don’t believe copyright should even exist. But if that’s true, then companies likewise need to release all their models freely to the public, which they won’t.

              “Copyright for me, not for thee” seems to be the mantra.

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                If you take offense at what I said, that implies you believe something else. Believing something else other than the truth makes you either dumb or brainwashed or both. See how easy it is to apply logic when you’re not letting a mindless computer do your “thinking”?!

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        I beg to differ. Anti ai is way bigger on Lemmy than pro. You can see this even by the likes.

        Second part is about semantics of ai. We use the term AI because that kind of stuck. Everybody uses the term. It makes no sense to every time rage about what it means specifically, especially since most people do fairly understand what it is.

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          Clearly they do not know what it is when they say, “LLMs and video game AI are the same thing!” No. No they aren’t. At all. In basically every case, they are wholly different.

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            No idea what you are talking about. The largest majority cals LLMs artificial intelligence. Because lnguistically, LLM is simply a subtyp of AI.

            In public discourse and marketing, “AI” has become a blanket term for anything that learns and writes like a human, and LLMs fit the bill. So as a linguistic shortcut, when LLMs got popular, people replaced that specific kind of AI with just “AI. By definition, an LLM is a kind of AI, a specialized system trained on massive text to generate language, making it a clear hyponym of AI. That relationship justifies calling LLMs simply AI.

            There is also because of generic reference: It’s easier to say “I used AI” than to specify “I prompted a 175B‑parameter transformer model.”

            I sorry dude, but these are jusy linguistic mechanism at play. You can shout and complain so you want, it’s AI. It’s AI. Get over it, find a different hill to die on.

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              Yes, keep using language that implies amuch greater ability than it has. Keep using marketing terms that these corporations want you to use. Yes, keep simping for the rich people trying to make employees obsolete. They definitely won’t replace you as soon as “AI” is no longer a misnomer!

              Your ignorance only makes you pathetic.

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        I have never seen anyone other than tech bros hype AI. Quite the opposite, I only see people raging on AI.

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          I guess I should make some sort of clever comment about a mirror here but it looks like I’ve run out of shits to give. Good chat!

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          Me too. Especially here in Lemmy. Definitely way more people rage about it. Rarely I see people being obnoxious by promoting it.

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          You must only be reading web forums like Lemmy/Reddit. I think society as a whole is very excited by the idea of AI.

          Companies everywhere have been racing to be the first to add AI to their products, for instance. Not just tech bro companies either. Everybody.

          Edit: so many downvotes and no comments. I see AI hype everywhere, it’s a fact. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, just that it isn’t limited to tech bros.

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            You got me wondering, and it seems like opinion is mixed among US adults

            Overall, we saw mixed emotions around the rise of AI. 39% of Americans feel positive about AI while 20% feel negative. The most commonly expressed emotion was curiosity, followed by interest and worry.

            It seems to hold true internationally too

            People are most likely to say they are concerned (32%), curious (30%), and hopeful (27%) about artificial intelligence. … 24% of respondents said AI will make our lives better. 41% of respondents think AI will make our lives both better and worse. Only 10% of respondents think AI will only make our lives worse

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              Saying society overall is excited might have been an overreach, but to say only tech bros are hyping this is far from reality. I think there’s plenty of people that are excited about AI. And I don’t necessarily think that’s a good thing. More than 32% of people should be concerned about AI.

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              Yes, what it actually signifies is that markets are mostly run by supply side economics. In other words, the typical product creation story is that companies produce products and then try to shove them down everyone’s throats.

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              It’s hard to tell. I get on Lemmy/reddit and see all kinds of anti AI messages. But I look at what’s happening on things like TikTok and instagram, and people don’t seem to care. They like and share all the AI slop. Knowing it is AI slop.

              The comment I was responding to was saying it is only tech bros hyping AI. I think that’s just not true. There’s a wide range of people hyping AI. Companies, governments, schools (when used the right way and not just cheating), etc…

              As for public in general, I think most people just don’t care. They see the benefits of AI and don’t think about the negatives, so they just embrace it.