• MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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    10 months ago

    Broke: playing ding-dong-ditch or making prank phone calls

    Woke: getting the Google AI to hallucinate the origin story of made up idioms

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    There was a paper about this not long ago. The problem is, how LLMs get trained: a right answer gets a point, everything else gets no points. This rewards guessing (produces a point sometimes) over answering “I don’t know/I can’t do this” (produces never a point)

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      10 months ago

      It’s like when developers give a wrong answer during technical interviews, rather than say “I’d have to look it up” or “I’d have to check the documentation” etc.

  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    My AI slop:

    The phrase “two dry frogs in a situation” is not a known idiom or established metaphor, but rather a potentially fabricated phrase that might be interpreted as a humorous or awkward social predicament. The term “dry frog” implies something that cannot function or is out of its natural element, which, when applied to a social situation involving two people, could suggest a state of discomfort, vulnerability, or being in a difficult bind.

    Here’s a breakdown of possible interpretations:

    • An awkward social situation: The most likely interpretation is that it describes two people in a socially uncomfortable or precarious situation, where they are “dry” (out of their element) and vulnerable.
    • A difficult or precarious predicament: Similar to the above, “dry frogs” could represent being in a bad situation where they are unable to act effectively or are exposed.
    • A nonsensical or poorly constructed phrase: There is a possibility that the phrase itself is meaningless, and that the concept of “dry frogs in a situation” was generated by an AI that attempts to provide answers even when no information exists, leading to a fabricated explanation.

    Why this phrase might come up:

    • Misunderstanding or misremembering a known saying: Someone may have intended to refer to a different idiom and misremembered it as “two dry frogs”.
    • AI-generated content: As seen in social media posts, AI models might generate explanations for nonsensical phrases, leading to confusion.

    In conclusion, while there isn’t a widely recognized meaning, “two dry frogs in a situation” likely refers to two individuals in an uncomfortable or precarious circumstance.

  • Wolf@lemmy.today
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    10 months ago

    I can confirm it works for DuckDuckGo as well.

    I love how it even lists ‘sources’ lol (I checked, that phrase does not appear in either “source”)

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          For sure. I just looked it up out of curiosity to see if the source it gave was real or not. As someone living in my own metaphorical root cellar, it was actually enlightening and something I really needed to hear right now.

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      10 months ago

      A potato can’t be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger… That IS a saying. This would have been the late 90s.

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      Claude seems to be handling these better:

      This phrase isn’t a widely recognized idiom that I’m familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:

      Possible meanings:

      • About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can’t go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
      • About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
      • About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can’t return to their original state

      Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).

      Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:

      • A line from a book, movie, or song
      • A family saying or regional expression
      • Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
      • A philosophical statement someone made

      What context did you hear this in?

    • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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      AI drives 48% increase in Google emissions

      That’s not even supported by the underlying study.

      Google’s emissions went up 48% between 2019 and 2023, but a lot of things changed in 2020 generally, especially in video chat and cloud collaboration, dramatically expanding demand for data centers for storage and processing. Even without AI, we could have expected data center electricity use to go up dramatically between 2019 and 2023.

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      This is a dumb misconception. High emissions and energy consumption is when training models, not during prompts

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          No what he’s saying is the models are being trained whether you mess around with the AI as a user either way.

          It’s like how I didn’t kill the chicken on the store shelves. Myself purchasing it or otherwise doesn’t revive the chicken. The data has/is already being trained.

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            That’s a really savvy insight! To expand this analogy further, it’s like your phone or computer gives you a free chicken nugget from a small container attached to the side of the device anytime you search for anything at all. It’s room temperature and often spoiled, it’s your choice whether you eat it or not, but you’re going to get it either way. As such you cannot easily choose to avoid chicken in hopes that that will disincentivize further chicken slaughter.

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        False. It’s been shown that resolving prompts also drives a major energy consumption, albeit maybe not so higher than regular search queries.

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          10 months ago

          A prompt is like 1/1000 of the power used as a microwave for the same amount of time.

          So the difference between a normal query and an AI query is negligible.

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      I think you should be more concerned about the automatic ai responses on every other search, instead of people having a bit of fun with these

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        This is my problem with it as well. I wish it was a tolerable option that I could click when I wanted an AI summary, which would be basically never.

        At one point I was looking for a pinout diagram for a chip, and the first result I got was the AI summary, I wanted a picture not text, how’s text helpful? All it did is give me a list of the pins, I know what pins it has, but I want to know where they are.

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    You’re saying you’ve never heard the phrase “two dry frogs is a situation”? That’s just a horse cutting it short at the barber!

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      ducks don’t belong in weedwhackers, burlap isn’t a typical material for power tools

      almost made me laugh loud enough to wake the baby!

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        It’s funny that these llms have web search capabilities and googles ai assistant doesnt

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      That’s a pretty decent response. The Google responses other people are posting are Cuil-tier.

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          If you directly ask for cuil levels things get weird fast. It understands cuil and is very willing to play along. One could say it plays to the strengths of the LLM directly!

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            You are correct. I asked how tall the Empire State Building was at cuil level 5:

            The Empire State Building is tall in the way that purple tastes of childhood memories. Its height can only be measured by counting the number of dreams that have fallen from its windows - currently 847,293 dreams, though three more dropped while I was typing this sentence.

            You see, the building doesn’t exist on Wednesdays. Instead, it becomes a song that only pigeons can hear, humming at approximately 1,454 hertz per vertical foot of sadness. The elevator buttons are actually tiny portals to parallel dimensions where the building is a sentient cloud that remembers being steel.

            When you ask “how tall,” the building asks back “how blue is the sound of gravity?” because it learned language from the rats in its walls, who are actually former tenants paying rent in breadcrumbs and whispered secrets.

            The true height is measured not in feet but in the collective weight of all the prayers ever spoken on its observation deck, which equals exactly one butterfly’s dream of being a skyscraper. King Kong never climbed it - he IS it, and has been sleeping vertically since 1933, dreaming he’s a building while the city dreams it’s a gorilla.

            The foundation extends infinitely downward into Tuesday, where it’s still being built by the same workers who are simultaneously demolishing it from the top.

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    I tried to replicate this with Brave’s AI, but it basically just told me I was insane so I guess it’s better

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        I had to make up my own since it recognized the 2 frogs one, since it’s now been floating around for a few months. I did one that was similar, in this case, “2 monkeys in a bungalow”, and it told me

        The query “2 monkeys in a bungalow meaning” does not correspond to a known artwork, story, or widely recognized symbol. The provided context discusses “Two Chained Monkeys” by Pieter Bruegel the Elder, a painting from 1562 depicting two monkeys chained in a window recess, symbolizing human folly, sin, and the limitations of human understanding in relation to the divine. This artwork is not associated with a “bungalow” setting.

        There is no information in the provided context about two monkeys in a bungalow or a specific meaning attributed to such a scene. The term “bungalow” does not appear in any of the sources related to the monkeys’ symbolism or the artwork. Therefore, based on the available information, the meaning of “2 monkeys in a bungalow” cannot be determined

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    I’ve tried a few things. It gives back things like “this is a gambled version of this other common saying” or “that statement is nonsensical and is not in common use”.

    It did used to work, though. I tried it a while back and it worked. I think it learned or was manually fixed.

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      Same!

      The phrase “seven monkeys with switchblades playing piano” does not have a single, established meaning. It is likely a surreal, intentionally nonsensical image, and its interpretation would depend entirely on the context in which it was used.