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Can’t kill a reanimated corpse, reddit is already dead.
Lol fuck reddit cuck mods anyways.
I got my 15 year old account permanently banned for filing one report against a user who was stalking my profile to call me slurs. (This was “abusing the report button”, apparently.) Everyone in my household got their accounts banned alongside mine. It’s very strange how the site is being run now.
Yes because they IP ban people
IP banning in this day and age is crazy. Years ago I opened my app on hospital WiFi and instantly both of my accounts in there were banned for “ban evasion”. Clearly someone used that IP address to get banned and now everyone using the public WiFi there is just getting banned.
It also made it clear that a big part of shutting down third party clients was so they could track us better. Made evident the minute my personal and work reddit accounts were banned together even though I never switched to the other login at all. With that move they could tie everyone’s throwaways back to their real accounts.
Yeah. When my 12 year old account got banned I stopped caring about that site and started creating new accounts every week and just posting whatever the hell I wanted without feeling like I needed to censor myself anymore. So their ban happy culture tends to have the opposite effect of what they want.
There’s a browser script out there that auto-adds all your subs back from your old account, so it really wasn’t even inconvenient for me other than the 2 minutes it takes to create a throwaway email account and create a new throwaway Reddit account.
And yeah, their methods for preventing you from coming back end up preventing others using the same computer or in the same household from coming back, so they just lose users. Their methods aren’t very sophisticated though, so it’s pretty easy to avoid them.
Shit site.
The problem with that is that it’s so locked down now you need an account of X age with Y karma, so the majority of the site isn’t something you can participate in. And I get it, lots of spam accounts and whatnot, but still shitty that they’re a hair trigger away from destroying years worth of built up karma over nothing.
“Let’s get rid of our longest running users, that should help the site move forward.”
In a fucked up way, yes. As in I think it’s intentional/logical on their part. The culture of reddit has been changing for a while. I think they would want the “old heads” to leave, but also leave behind their posts/comments for others (and Reddit) to benefit off of.
That’s why people use those web apps that overwrite their comments with garbage. But I always think about how Reddit controls the servers, data, and backups.
Could you point me to one that overwrites my old posts?
Eh it doesnt really matter, I’m sure they kept running archives even before selling off to altman, and invariably impacts more actual people trying to maybe find that one useful comment to fix something.
that’s the point, when people got a dead end when looking for answers on reddit for the nth time, they will stop clicking those results
Also though running an ad blocker makes them have to serve the web request and not get ad revenue 🤷♂️
Yeah my 10+ yr account was like #340 in comment karma or some shit, I was clearly a contributor, but they banned me for nothing. Wish I would have sold it now.
you can sell an reddit account?
couple forums and older ones have decent value, you can even sell suble ad like posts, didn’t see that til after my permaban, people will pay you money to post on your account with karma/age about their stuff lol, makes me really dislike that system more, like most new ppl cant even get help because they can’t comment/post in most subs.
blackhatworld is one, i think
Yeah they can be worth quite a lot too
How much would be quite a lot? Like 100 or more like 10000000?
How much karma was that? I lost 3 accounts and one had over 100k comment karma, so they lost another good user here as well.
I loved to post solutions to problems that never got solved on several subreddits, oh well.
So how does a person sell their account !?
Yeah, I’m also interested. Why not? Better to sell it now that has value than just getting banned.
Woah… what’s this? I had no idea reddit accounts hold value!
Reddit has a whole metagame on trolling users in these ways. I don’t think corporate cares at all. If anything spez probably welomes it.
Obligatory fuck Spez.
I got banned for updooting Luigi stuff.
And I’ll fucking do it again!
I got a lifetime ban after 12 years on Reddit. I still have no clue why, and I really, really don’t care.
I got perma banned a few years ago for saying pipzilla will stomp on ableists. cause apparently saying OCs of fictional characters will stomp on is a serious threat of violence Reddit moderation is so ass it’s comical people don’t believe me sometimes hwen itell them this is why i got banned but it is. v Pipzilla
Same. I got a permaban on 9/12 with zero explanation as to why.
I live in a small country that sysadmins don’t care about. if I make an account on reddit, it will be banned the first time I say “hello” in the comments. there is no way for me to use Reddit. the appeal system is completely fake as far as i know. the messages go straight into the garbage they’re not read by anybody.
If you get banned as soon as you comment it’s because you’re IP banned. They have automated checks at least once a day that ban anyone from a blacklisted IP, but every single post triggers a IP check.
I’ve gotten IP banned twice. Once for talking about my cat killing rabbits (violence!) and once for talking about racist attacks against my local mayor by right wing nutjobs (supporting racism).
It’s astoundingly stupid. I was never once ever even banned or blocked from a subreddit until like 2022. Then I started repeatedly getting bans from lots of subs for racism, sexism and violence. Mostly for throughful comments that were getting tons of upvotes then I’d get some personal comment from a mod about what a jerk I was and how if I think men/women are the same, and race isn’t a huge pivotal thing, and violence is part of life… well then apparently I’m sexist, racist, and promoting violence. I also pointed out some obvious viral marketing going on in some subs… and banned. I also start getting harassed and targetted and followed by people on the site. It was so weird to have someone show up in other subs to insult/harass me or the constant PMs from weirdos. Never ever got those until like '22 as well.
Reddit was great when it was small. People were reasonable and chill mostly and debate was allowed. I learned so much from so many great communities. Now it’s just a corporate echo chamber that wants a inoffensive as possible Disney like image. It’s run by dingbats with zero ability to make normal judgements and caters to nutbags and bad actors who actively abuse things.
That said IRL things are so getting worse. My entire life I’ve mostly head the same opinions… and now all the sudden I’m ‘evil’ because I don’t agree with exteremist/ignorance-first agendas being pushed so hard.
I got banned for a month when I wrote that I disapprove of conspiracy theories. Some keyword list must have triggered it.
I’m currently on a 3 day ban on Reddit for “threatening others” because someone was going on about how they would smash people with telekinesis and I made a comment saying you could simply bend a prion without being dramatic and drawing attention to yourself.
I don’t even get how the fanfiction subreddits are not permabanned due to all the crazy shit that gets written up there.
There’s a snuff/gore fiction subreddit. XD
I got banned for using the expression “take a long walk off a short pier”.
lol of course power mods would say that.
Fuck that dumbass site.
Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
I’m always like “who the fuck uses Instagram?” I guess I’m living in a different world entirely.
My nontechnical hobby circle is all about the insta, sadly. Facebook, too. It’s an uphill battle full of people that expect you have them: They look at you funny if you don’t have one. It’s as if you said you don’t have email.
One of my DnD groups only share IG memes so I never see them because I don’t have IG.
My negative outlook on life pushes friends away so I don’t have that problem.
You’re playing D&D with losers
You should have a better DnD group
Primarily 20s-30s something women. If you’re not that demographic, you might not be keen on is usage.
Don’t forget 20-30 dudes who don’t know how to wash or talk to women desperately trying to chase those women.
Just remember, people will be more open to trying the stuff you’re into if you’re compassionate about the things they’re frustrated with!
(This is intended for anyone who wants friends or acquaintances to try the fediverse platforms. For those who don’t or don’t care that’s perfectly valid too :)
What’s the second logo?
First picture I found on Google for each because I’m lazy but there they are with pictures attached.
Piefed
Lemmy
Mastodon
Pixelfed
Most of these names are absolutely atrocious.
To be fair, are there any social media platforms that don’t have a kind of stupid name?
Most of the big ones at least have some kind of coherence behind their naming scheme.
The open source stuff is like: prehistoric hairy elephant, misspelled name of animal used as a metaphorical comparison for people doing dumb shit in a mob which seems to be insulting it’s users, and then some random words slapped onto the word fed - none of which sound good.
Its one of the two hard problems of computer science after all
I thought Diaspora was a decent sounding name. If it had more traction and actually pulled a sizeable diaspora away from Facebook it would have fit better than Facebook, Twitter/X, or Instagram’s names.
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
Right. But what’s the one on the left?
Pixelfed
Piefed?
It’s like Lemmy but with consolidated comments, flairs, spoilers, polls, topics, feeds (like multireddits), proper blocks, hashtags, piped video integration, disclaimer messages, better mod and reporting tools.
Is it like, a whole other network with different people or is it like a different front-end to the lemmyverse ? This is kind of confusing ? And what about that “kbin” I keep hearing about, is that the same deal ?
Lemmy is a software that people can host on their computer, and many people doing that form what is essentially a bunch of mini-reddits that can talk to each other to create one big platform.
Piefed is trying to fulfill the same goals as Lemmy, and is even fully compatible with Lemmy, so someone hosting a piefed server on their computer can join in with all the Lemmy servers, and to the Lemmy people, it appears to them like any other Lemmy server.
But underneath everything, the code base is entirely different. The commonality they share, along with mastodon, is they all use ActivityPub, which is the standard that allows them to all communicate and be compatible with each other, just like there’s an email standard.
Kbin (now Mbin) is yet another Lemmy compatible software that you can host on your computer, but it also tried to implement features that make it more like mastodon (twitter-like), so it can act both like reddit, with threads and comments and communities around single subjects, or be like mastodon and work with hashtags and following individuals instead of communities, like a microblogging website.
They also use different interfaces, but it’s only visible to people who directly use that server; to others who access it from their home server, it’ll adopt the look of the software their home server is using.
So as an example, you are using Lemmy since your home server is Lemmy.ml. if you visit a community hosted on a piefed server from within your Lemmy, like !fullmoviesonyoutube@piefed.social, it’ll look like any other Lemmy community.
But if you directly go to that piefed server by going to https://piefed.social/c/fullmoviesonyoutube you’ll see it from the piefed interface, since you’re accessing that piefed server directly.
All of three of the different federated Reddit-like softwares are intercompatible, so they all make up one big network.
Iv said it once and I’ll say it again.
This shit is needlessly complex.
I would suggest that it is as complex as you wish to know.
My explanation above is not truly required to effectively use a federated platform, in the same way that most email users don’t actually know how precisely email works, and would find an in-depth explanation of it very complex.
All someone needs to know about email is that they must login to their email host provider, and that every user they might send email to has a unique name, and possibly a different host name after the @ symbol.
In the same way, the only thing someone needs to know about this platform, is they must login to the same place they signed up to (their host provider). They can then use it in a similar way to reddit. They might wonder why usernames or communities have different names after the @, but it doesn’t actually impede using the platform to not understand.
If anything, that might make it easier to use than email.
Remember this big discussion? https://lemmy.ml/post/36058152
PieFed has had that feature for a long time, and many more besides. https://join.piefed.social/features/
Is there a piefed/mbin backend server or is it just an alternative webui client ?
I’m thinking of switching to a self-hosted single user lemmy instance and run all 3 self-hosted clients to my self-hosted server, is that practical ?
Yes, backend server.
https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/INSTALL.md
You could run all 3 but it would be redundant as they all have the same content and people :D
Neither. It’s fully compatible with Lemmy but different on both the front and backends.
Summoning @rimu@piefed.social
It’s a different frontend with different features. You could be reading this very post on a Piefed instance instead of a Lemmy instance. Ditto for kbin.
No, piefed is just another front-end to the fediverse.
A very concise description, wonderful! 👍
piefed; https://piefed.world/post/474293
'member when redditors would ALL leave because of the API restrictions? This will have no real effect whatsoever. I’m glad that most redditors didn’t move to lemmy.
average of over 60,000 daily active moderators” that month, which, at the time, would mean that 0.1 percent of all mods equals 600 people.
No, it equals 60 people.
At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
Given Reddit’s past unreasonableness, I wouldn’t be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
*ulterior
While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.
Thanks, I wanted to say that but I couldn’t figure out how to spell it.
That’s what I guessed. Alternative is a fine alternative word though.
*exterior
*widdershins
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
Now /u/spez will have all the power
Yeah that is exactly it. They didn’t want mods to be able to disrupt the site again, so they’re looking to make that more difficult.
God, I am so glad I left that place.
Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
Total subscriber number is useless, daily/weekly/monthly active users is infinitely more important and useful.
The user numbers were bogus anyway since Reddit didn’t automatically decrement the user number after banning a member. The banned member had to manually unjoin the subreddit. So the membership count was inflated with banned members.
That’s it. It’s the illusion of fairness and it takes away reddit jannies’ ability to show off their powermod status, and that’s the only incentive they have not to use sockpuppets for every sub they mod.
This is actually another of Reddit’s decisions that I’m in agreement with. Subscriber count isn’t a very useful number, it largely just measures how old a subreddit is. You can already see how old the subreddit is much more accurately by looking at its founding date.
If they’d added, yes. But removing it completely is just a way to hide how many are on the platform.
Or left in a protest
You’ve got that backwards.
Active users are literally all that matter. When a user is banned permanently from Reddit, they aren’t unsubscribed from any subs. They’re still included in the total subscriber number.
Showing total subscriber numbers is hiding the details. Showing active user counts is the opposite.
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What’s interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn’t going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can’t just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.
it took another one from the series of purges this year too. i think the purges did alot more damage than reddit is letting on. since they were doing it for months on end, i was seeing a real decrease in users posting, and mostly it was replaced by bot posting.
I was on one of those “especially rebellious mod-teams”. We were even interviewed by Ars Technica about it all at the time.
On advice of a majority of our users, we took our sub offline and kept it that way until Reddit booted us as mods. Honestly, this was the outcome I was expecting — hell, I was pretty open about goading them into it. What was the alternative — to cave to the platform that was abusing us so I could keep working for them for free?
That’s the part I didn’t understand about my fellow mods from other subs. Many of them caved pretty quickly. Their identities seemed to be so tied up in being a Reddit mod that they couldn’t let it go, even though the relationship was obviously very unequal. Too many other people stood up after witnessing the mod abuse to take over from those who got the boot, just asking for the Reddit boot to be applied to their necks instead.
Well, I wish all the mods the kind of treatment they forgave/ignored the last time around.
at least you wernt like that anti-work mod that went ON FOX, that actually drew negative attention to the site.
I have way too much self-respect to ever show my face on FOX 🤣.
actually, thier purges since the election was too effective, and removed so much users and mods by banning them. plus the shadowbans have dramatically increased, because they made the filters to sensitive to "potential bots/spammers). 50/50 irl users/bots. at least right now, its reddit is filled with charlie kirk propaganda(negative and positive), with a little hint of luigi.
That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.
Its probably related to the whole paying users thing.
We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn’t include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.
It could be viewed as reasonable if viewed alone. I think that its fine and could make a lot of sense for control over their platform.
The history of reddit sheds a different context in my mind though. Mods are volunteers. Subreddits were established to moderate themselves, implementing nuanced rules for their specific topics that might differ from other subs that need completely different rules and approaches. Its part of what made reddit unique compared to alternate sites.
Then they made moderating much more difficult by eliminating third party apps. Then they started implementing their plans to take the platform where they wanted it, which is fine because its their platform, but they wanted all their mods to do a bunch of work and in a certain manner to make it so. Very demanding on free labor.
So there’s mods still around and they want to restrict them more? Who knows, maybe that’s a great idea but they made the mess they’re in. This decision isn’t a single on on its own, its part of a stack of them.
This was desperately needed.
But I’m not convinced they aren’t just going to make alts.
Yeah. I mean, I remembered seeing someone named awkwardturtle on there and they moderated like some 30+ subreddits? That’s ridiculous.
Users like that should not have that much power.
The problem with powermod isn’t that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don’t get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn’t want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn’t want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit’s shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience.
It depends who. There are some that build tools and procedures for handling large forums. They may also share best practices across different subs.
As for controlling content, it isn’t like a corporation or political group can’t create 20 accounts and take over subs. That’s already happened on Reddit.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
Or sock puppet accounts. Banning the current set of mods without a plan on who replaces them doesn’t fix the problem.
They can still share tools and best practices but now they cant be involved in the post to post moderation.
As for controlling content, it isn’t like a corporation or political group can’t create 20 accounts and take over subs. That’s already happened on Reddit.
You cant do this if the mods are already doing this because the mods will remove the posts. Giving them a huge block of control over a majority of the content on the platform.
it allows them to institute changes ordered by the admins more effectively, complicitly. hard to do it if 500+ subs had thier own mod team, instead of just 92.
Yes, but they are also doing this to deleverage their mods and consolidate censorship power with corporate
admins actually are the one that hold all the power on the site, mods are the plebs that have to play ball. admins are only 2nd in power to spez. they are the ones behind the aggressive somewhat indiscriminate shadowbans and purges. its only a matter of time before they drop the mask and increasing more right leaning content.
Mods get to control the political narrative of their subreddits by banning those with opposing views. That makes them more powerful than admins. As an example, Reddit has been so flooded with pro-trans mods that it’s almost impossible to make an anti-trans agenda post in most subreddits without being banned.
except it ultimately falls to the admins which institute all these changes, and filters to the site. mods are just patsies, yea there are problematic mods, and this at the behest of spez too.
You may or may not be right, but that example is apocalyptically bad (and probably betrays that you’re not worth talking to, if it reflects your “opinion”), because, ya know, most people with even a slither of empathy within them realize that “making an anti-trans agenda post” is just being a despicable piece of shit. Which would make the mods banning that behavior kinda based.
reddit might want AI to control some of the subs, dont you think?
It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.
Reddit has been dead since February, when Spez met with The Goblin, and then permabanned thousands, maybe millions of highly active accounts, including me. I was permabanned for repeating a post I had made many times with no issues. After 12 years, and almost a million Karma, I was suddenly too dangerous to allow on the platform, along with thousands of others.
We high volume posters built Reddit, but we shifted from being assets to problems after Trump was elected again.
“subreddits will stop displaying subscriber counts and instead show their “unique number of unique visitors over the last seven days, based on a rolling 28-day average,” Reddit’s rep said. Notably, old.reddit.com will not get these new stats but will still lose subscriber counts”
They are hiding,for stock purposes, their declining numbers from everyone they have banned. 12 year user I never said anything outlandish just dark humor that I always have. Stuff that would have been easily ok 10 years ago. Nope no more
Unique visitor numbers are much, much more important than total subscriber numbers though. Total subscriber numbers include accounts that have been inactive for years.
I was permabanned for saying fascists need to get curb stomped like one forefathers did.
I like how Reddit hosts the most hateful, vile, racist subreddits and bans people like me for not condoning it. That doublespeak is chefs kiss
Reddit died for me the moment RIF went down.
I still use RIF with a Revanced patch- the few weeks before I figured out how to do that I was zero time on reddit. That’s probably healthier for me.
I’m trying to shift over to Lemmy more and more it’s just difficult with some smaller/niche communities. But it’s worth the effort given how much spez is on his knees.
What’s two feet long, and hangs between Sam Altman’s thighs?
Spez’s tie.
Soon as they fucked over the Apollo dev…re, redd who?
I got banned for criticizing billionaires.
They updated their automod stuff a few months back and if you don’t follow the script you get banned very easily now.
I kibd of agree.with this one, on the other hand reddit is not my circus and those mods are not my monkeys.
Hell, I never understood why anyone worked for free to make the owners richer ? Here I get (and thank you), like an old school BBS but reddit makes zero sense as a mod.
Fuck Reddit. It needs to die, along with discord.
So glad to see some mods gone. They are power hungry petty people.
