There is definitely an overlap but I think Linux users are more like vegetarians, they cut out the commercial OS from their diet and are content with that. FOSS people are more like militant vegans … they won’t be happy unless everyone else has to use the shitty software they do.
like, it certaily is on paper, from a moral standpoint of causing less harm to the environmant
but “the environmant” is a really vague term. After all, by not allowing John Flesheater have his steak, you’re still technically harming an animal, just morally this time :D (and possibly in terms of health a bit, if there are some kind of external dietary limitations in a given local region)
Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.
But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”
I think veganism is a vanity that we can afford given the right circumstances, that some cultures also try to dress up as a virtue. So if one derives joy or piece of mind from it, they shoule do it as long as they do.
Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.
Pure cope. We know how badly animals are hurt by factory farming methods, and there isn’t a non-factory method that I’m aware of that can meet the demand for meat.
But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”
How do I know you’ve ever been happy? I’ve never seen it, so I can assume you haven’t, right? (This is how nonsensical your argument sounds. We can see farm animals get excited about things the experience, like happy cows skipping to their field)
Just a year or two ago I would’ve said that i don’t even understand why linux exists. Now i’d rather say that windows should stop being a thing asap, as it brings nothing but problems and stagnation to consumer electronics, and nowadays it goes the same for any major proprietary software piece.
What can i say, i hope the era of corpos is nearing its end, and we’re the witnesses
“Shitty software”??? Basically most of non-FOSS software is shitty. Its not because we want to use shitty software, but we better use shitty software that gets better overtime, than shitty software that only gets worse. Also why everyone else has to use it?? Idgaf what you use, but I’m only angry, when you decide to pay for shit software, instead of donating the better and more free software, thats the only thing that makes me angry about people.
those are the same people, sir
There is definitely an overlap but I think Linux users are more like vegetarians, they cut out the commercial OS from their diet and are content with that. FOSS people are more like militant vegans … they won’t be happy unless everyone else has to use the shitty software they do.
what do you think veganism is?
Mostly self-righteous virtue-signaling.
But veganism isn’t widely accepted as a virtue, so who are we supposedly signaling to by being combative?
Edit: also you apparently agree that veganism is a virtue?
But is it?
?
“is veganism a virtue”
sounds like a topic for a debate
like, it certaily is on paper, from a moral standpoint of causing less harm to the environmant
but “the environmant” is a really vague term. After all, by not allowing John Flesheater have his steak, you’re still technically harming an animal, just morally this time :D (and possibly in terms of health a bit, if there are some kind of external dietary limitations in a given local region)
Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.
But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”
I think veganism is a vanity that we can afford given the right circumstances, that some cultures also try to dress up as a virtue. So if one derives joy or piece of mind from it, they shoule do it as long as they do.
oof sorry, not coming drunk to lemmy again :D
Pure cope. We know how badly animals are hurt by factory farming methods, and there isn’t a non-factory method that I’m aware of that can meet the demand for meat.
How do I know you’ve ever been happy? I’ve never seen it, so I can assume you haven’t, right? (This is how nonsensical your argument sounds. We can see farm animals get excited about things the experience, like happy cows skipping to their field)
Please read this and more importantly watch the material linked to see if you still think that “we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them”
https://www.theempathyproject.co.uk/magazine/the-mothers-of-dairy
Like I dont have time to get into all the different things going on with your post, it’s a lot, so lets focus on that one thing.
i mean, there are degrees to everything
Just a year or two ago I would’ve said that i don’t even understand why linux exists. Now i’d rather say that windows should stop being a thing asap, as it brings nothing but problems and stagnation to consumer electronics, and nowadays it goes the same for any major proprietary software piece.
What can i say, i hope the era of corpos is nearing its end, and we’re the witnesses
“Shitty software”??? Basically most of non-FOSS software is shitty. Its not because we want to use shitty software, but we better use shitty software that gets better overtime, than shitty software that only gets worse. Also why everyone else has to use it?? Idgaf what you use, but I’m only angry, when you decide to pay for shit software, instead of donating the better and more free software, thats the only thing that makes me angry about people.
I feel like you’ve never had to deal with proprietary bullshit.