• Kokesh@lemmy.world
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    So should you. Do not support those bastards. I check everything in grocery shops so I don’t buy anything from the middle east nazis.

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        I do the same, and as a European, I also boycott all U.S. products, because this country not only participates in Israel’s atrocities but even makes them possible in the first place.

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          Agree. But EU is also mostly aligned with “israel”. I often wonder why? Is it some sort of guilt from WW2? Makes no sense.

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            In Germany, this is indeed still (ostensibly) justified by citing the historical responsibility Germany bears toward the victims of the Holocaust. However, this line of reasoning is obviously completely nonsensical, since Germany’s responsibility naturally does not pertain to the State of Israel, but rather to doing everything in its power to prevent genocide—a goal that is, unfortunately, being thwarted by our politicians.

            The fact that the political establishment and the powerful elites continue to support Israel despite its undeniable crimes and inhuman atrocities can, in my view, only be explained by corruption and skillful intelligence work on the part of the Mossad. I can no longer think of any other explanation.

            In my opinion, the Epstein documents provide a fairly clear picture of how this works.

            • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              A state which is meant to attract all Jews means fewer Jews in Germany.

              Consider the possibility that the objective of unwaveringly supporting Israel, especially in its territorial expansion, is for even more Jews to leave to it.

              Certainly that the real motivation of German politicians is to support a Jewish Homeland as a means to get rid of more Jews would explain the glaring inconsistencies in the “historical responsibility” argument, such as how they don’t at all in any way form or shape extend the same unwavering support to other groups equally targeted by the NAZIs such as the Roma People and how the German Courts recently deemed Jewish Voices For Peace - a Jewish organization - an “extremist organization” for being against the actions that Israel commits in their name (in other words, German Tribunals are deciding how Jews should think about Jewish Affairs).

              This possibility started emerging in my mind not that long ago, but so far unlike the “historical responsibility” claims it has remained consistent which what the German Authorities have been doing.

              • DandomRude@lemmy.world
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                I think the much simpler explanation is that corrupt and unscrupulous politicians are lining their own pockets or profiting in other ways.

                Germany supplies weapons to Israel, which is a multi-billion-dollar business. Furthermore, Israel is particularly influential in the U.S., which is why a good relationship with Israel is, so to speak, a prerequisite for relations with the U.S.—it is no coincidence that it is precisely those countries that are closely linked to the U.S. that also support Israel.

                The fact that Germany doesn’t even shy away from targeting Jewish organizations that call Israel’s actions what they are is simply the same tactic that is always used to silence legitimate criticism. Germany, incidentally in a Bundestag vote that coincidentally took place on the day of a popular soccer match, adopted a definition of anti-Semitism that, for example, brands any comparison of Israeli crimes with those of Nazi Germany as anti-Semitism. Of course, this is absurd, but it is a tool that can also be used against Jewish critics.

                This, in turn, is fully in line with Israel’s strategy, which has always used this argument to silence critics. For Jewish critics, Zionism has even developed the completely absurd construct of Jewish self-hatred.

                In short: Germany’s support can plausibly be explained by greed and political opportunism. It is simply about money and power.

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                  Germany is very, very exceptional in Europe when it comes to its support of Israel, the only equivalent country being Britain.

                  As it so happens I lived in Britain for a while and thus know that the current Prime Minister there got his job thanks to the support of Israel-linked Jewish Groups (who helped him overthrown the previous leader of his party with a slander campaign with accusations of anti-semitism which were so wild that they even accused a Jewish Holocaust Survivor of being an anti-semite to get at said leader by association, and then his party naturally got into government since over there they have First Past The Post, not Proportional Vote).

                  Anyways, the political and money elites in quite a lot of other European nations also have the greed motive to want to support Israel, but except for Britain the rest haven’t gone anywhere close to the level of Germany.

                  Hence I think that some element of real anti-semitism is part of the explanation for Germany’s extraordinary support of Israel when compared with the rest of Europe.

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                Consider the possibility that the objective of unwaveringly supporting Israel, especially in its territorial expansion, is for even more Jews to leave to it.

                That’s also why American evangelical Christians love supporting Israel so much, with the added layer of Revelations prophesizing that the Rapture can’t kick off until the Jews return to the Holy Land.

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            That area used to be a colony run by the british. The whole reason the palestineans couldn’t expel the zionists in the first place was because the colonizers were the ones initially inviting them in. Drawing up a lot of the intial borders around there was done by western nations including Europe without ever consulting the palestineans.

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            Its money. They see it as a good point of interest to hold for the next weapons of mass distraction event scenario in the middle east.

            Like the one they’re doing , right now.

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          Boycotting the US of fucking A is just the right thing to do, would even be without the genozide support.

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          That too. I wonder whether it is time to boycott German and UK products as well, that might be more hard.

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            As a German, I can say that, unfortunately, nearly every major political party in Germany defends Israel and thereby actively supports its genocide. In my view, this is completely at odds with the general will of the people, as the majority of citizens firmly and decisively reject this criminal policy. They want Israel to finally be held accountable for its crimes, but this is being prevented by the political establishment.

            Therefore, in my view, it would only be right to boycott German products as well, so that the pressure on our wretched politicians increases.

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              I feel you as a Slovene, where we manage to again elect a far right populist friend (and admirer of) with Netanyahu and Orban. He wants to be friend with the Orange, but relationship goes one way only.

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    Sodastream is an Israeli company as well. We have started boycotting Sodastream in our family and friends group.

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      Right before the current campaign of violence against the palastenian people I was at the store and considering buying a sodastream.

      I flipped open the back and saw a giant holographed Israeli flag and it said “This product is produced by Arabs and Jews working side by side in peace and harmony”

      Threw that shit back on the shelf and never considered one again.

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    I know someone who’s a member there and some of the pro-israel people are … A lot.

    I’m glad they’re boycotting.

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    I didn’t see any brands mentioned in the article; just a couple of categories that could be impacted.

    The only Israeli based “food” brand I know of is sodastream.

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    Hmm divesting from companies from a genocidal country sounds like a no brainer to me, so I guess a bunch of idiots frequent that co-op.

    /jk sorta

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    Zionism supporters should be banned from all businesses. No one is required to serve them.