• Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    Lay flat. Seriously, society is like two weeks to two months from collapsing at any moment. All anyone has to do is literally just not go to work for two weeks in mass. The power goes out, water stops running, and the grocery store goes empty. You share your resources with your neighbors. You don’t even need to get out of bed to collapse the system.

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      literally

      Probably not

      two weeks in mass.

      Bone apple tea!

      • in mass - that’s like boycotting Church
      • en masse - as a group
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        in mass - that’s like boycotting Church

        Which is not a bad idea, actually. After all the things that the Abrahamic Church had done (and still do in a socially-veiled manner nowadays), especially against the women, boycotting Church is the least we oughta do. All the Sisters and their Daughters who were murdered back in the so-called “witch-hunting” are still awaiting the due historical reparation as I’m writing this.

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          En masse is one of the millions of useful expressions stolen by English from other languages. (We call it “borrowed” or “loanwords,” but we’re not going to give them back!)

          It doesn’t literally mean “in mass,” which would refer to measuring weight or volume, or could mean being in a Catholic church during a service.

          If you wanted to use a different expression to denote the whole of the working population acting in unison you could, but “en masse” carries some appropriate French revolutionary connotations and avoids the communist implications of “the masses,” which could hamper recruiting.

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        Now short for in massive quantity. There isn’t that much food in stores. Even less when the trucks stop coming. Most power is generated on demand, the moment people stop showing up to work at the generation site and load balancing site it turns off.

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          No, “in mass” means you’re physically located in Massachusetts. “En masse” means massive quantity, that’s the point of their post, that’s the expression, its loaner words from French; you’ve never heard anyone say “in mass” in this context in your life, you have been hearing “en masse” incorrectly because your education system failed you.

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              Don’t let them convince you it’s an error, language is descriptive and “mass” to describe a group of people is a common English definition. They are just being pedants.

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                I agree, I’m kinda used to it now. People on Lemmy can be very delicate and beautiful flowers. Literally the smallest disturbance from their desire and they can go on a cursing tirade. If one didn’t know any better one might think the sky was falling. You should see some of the comment chains I’ve been through in my short time here. Although two of those people seemed truly disturbed.

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          So your solution is to cause a famine and leave people without power during a heatwave?

          Wouldn’t it be better to attack things like shareholder value instead of supply chains?

          After overthrowing the billionaire caste, we’ll still need those supply chains. You know that, right?

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            More so to turn off the switch for a day or two, that would most likely be all that is needed.

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          Most power is generated on demand

          Until very recently, all power was generated on demand. The amount of power generated and the amount of power consumed had to be exactly equal at all times.

          Though now we do have battery farms and other forms of grid-level storage in some places to help balance the variability of renewable sources.

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            Its interesting being in other countries and you can watch the load / supply change with a standing fan. Speeds up, slows down, lol goes out.

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      I have heard many variations to this point but I would like to point out a counter example. The great depression in the US that lasted for a decade. The average income level for families fell by 40%. People regularly starved to death and even by WWII almost 50% of men were turned away from recruitment because they were malnourished.

      Guess what? No revolution, no collapse just massive suffering.

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        Motherfuckers can’t even stop buying cheap garbage from Amazon, but we’re gonna expect that they can sacrifice their personal livelihoods and risk starvation? Yeah right.

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          I’d put it more like people can’t take one day to go vote (two if we count primaries).

          Like you said- people aren’t making this grand sacrifice and it’s foolish to expect them to, especially given the sacrifice is far, far greater.

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          Thats why im going the opposite route, I’m trying to drag people into the stock market with me, get em all hype up on greed and the promise of being rich… then watch them lose everything and discover capitalism is a rigged game and bail.

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        The infrastructure kept on ticking for those that needed it. The ports kept on moving goods. The power generation kept on, the truckers kept on, society kept on. We’re not talking about an actual collapse of society, more so a game of chicken with people who think they are in charge. The right people aka the ones who actually facilitate the basic functions of society just stay home a few days. That’s enough to get the point across.

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          That is not really accurate for the great depression as the infrastructure definitely collapsed, but I get your point.

          I think there is a profound disconnect here about the power of the people. That is my bigger point that humans will suffer through far far far worse than what we are dealing with now without any sort of pushback.

          In some ways it feels like this is almost a mythology when you compare people protesting to getting what they want. The only times this seems to happen is when the wealthy and the common man’s goals align and increasingly in our modern world this is dictated by the persuasive propaganda of corporations. Basically people are convinced to go along with what the wealthy want.

          The burn is that the wealthy can and will ignore the people regardless of their desires. The most recent riots and protests in France about raising the retirement age are a great example of this. The people protested violently and in the end the age was raised as the wealthy dictated.

          Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying we can’t do anything. Simply put protesting isn’t the power people think it is and civilization isn’t going to revolt just because things get bad.

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            Great example with France, a population thats actually civically active and resistant to government bullshit