Chauvin, who was convicted in the 2020 murder of George Floyd, was allegedly stabbed with an “improvised knife” Nov. 24 while in the law library at Federal Correctional Institution in Tucson, Arizona, by inmate John Turscak, 52, according to a criminal complaint.
Kind of sad to see the number of people celebrating his injury. His actions are reprehensible, but he has be sentenced and should be able to carry out that sentence without the threat of violence and death. This is partially the reason people who go to prison come out worse than when they went in.
I’m not gonna celebrate, but i’m not gonna mourn either. This whole chain of events happened because he deliberately chose to abuse another human being while in a position of authority
Absolutely. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t feel bad for him at all. I do feel bad for the good people who are incarcerated who are victims of our prison system.
“Good people” who were incarcerated? Unless you’re trying to carve out that actual innocent people were incarcerated I don’t think the general prison population were good people. Now, I say that with the caveat that plenty of people get screwed by overzealous prosecutors, minimum sentence rules, or whatever, or that prison is warehousing people and has fuckall to do with actual reform. But you generally don’t wind up in prison if you’re a good person.
It’s worth mourning that someone in the custody of the state isn’t being protected from attack. For every evil cop getting stabbed there’s a ton more people (some of whom are innocent) who are subject to the same negligence and cruelty in the system.
That’s literally what happened when he murdered his victim though. Maybe the cruelty he’s facing will be a wake-up call to all the other criminals with a badge out there.
Wrong hill to die on IMO. He’s the embodiment of violence as punishment built into the system.
I followed the trial closely. I saw, repeatedly, from a dozen different angles, him hear Floyd beg for his life, telling him that he couldn’t breathe, and in response, Chauvin leaned more into his knee and grinded it, intentionally inflicting pain and making it harder to get air.
Live by the sword, (almost) die by the sword.
I’ll celebrate it. Fuck the system, and fuck this monster in particular.
Agreed. I understand the flippancy with him in particular, but prisons should not be a place where your life is in danger. Think of the other inmates, not just him. There are lots of inmates who can be reformed, but living in an environment that is so dangerous makes that much less likely. Sucks all around.
Going out in public should not be a place where your life is in danger, either, but this shitbird saw to it that it wasn’t. Come find me when cops are consistently held accountable to respecting human life.
This is kinda where I’m coming from on this. There are still tons of cases of cops blatantly and aggressively violating people’s rights, up to and including killing them. They never show remorse until they suffer consequences. Until there is consistent accountability, and cops actually consider the full ramifications of their actions, I won’t be upset by the ones that might suffer some harsher punishments for their crimes.
Is your respect for human life conditional?
Yes, the condition is that the person isn’t outright disrespecting human life.
I feel like this is in the same boat as “tolerating intolerance”
I might be wrong, but the reason (good or bad) is people don’t feel the judgement was actually just?
He was punished but it’s only 22 years…and they’re still trying to appeal it . And I remember it being messy and after a lot of outcry.
This isn’t meant to justify it, but I do think that you could definitely see why people would not be happy with the situation.
Like I definitely understand that people should feel safe in prison, but I think there’s a lot of things about the situation people disagree on.
I don’t think it’s appropriate to put a “but” after “people should feel safe in prison”. It implies that there are people who do not deserve safety while incarcerated.
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We’re talking about a cop. He’s not people to start with but especially with what he’s done.
He doesn’t deserve safety as he is part of the reason why so many people suffer in prisons and have their lives ruined. I will do nothing other than cheer as every ounce of his life is shredded in front of him until his life is as empty as he made Chauvins.
But that’s a revenge fantasy. And cops are still people. What we want is “harm reduction”. Harm reduction was accomplished when his gun, badge and freedom were taken away, and (hopefully) a message was sent to other police officers to cause them to think twice before murdering people.
They don’t have to be happy about the situation, they just have to ask themselves honestly if more prison stabbings is a good thing or a bad thing, and maybe explain why they trust inmates to make the judgement of who does and does not get stabbed.
The whole argument literally has no more depth than “Fuck that guy”. I feel like these people would be justifying drunk drivers if Chauvin had been run down by one.
He killed a man in a horrific and truly awful way. He had PLENTY of time to feel regret for his actions while he was fucking doing them and everyone was screaming at him that he was killing someone. He is now suffering under the exact same system that has destroyed so many lives. Lives he had a hand in destroying previously due to being a cop.
He had plenty of chances. Fuck him. I hope he suffers everyday for the rest of his miserable life.
I refuse to give that disgusting piece of shit the same respect that I give to people. He didn’t do it for others? Fuck giving it to him.
“A society should be judged not by the way it treats its outstanding citizens, but by the way it treats its criminals." - Dostoyevsky
No one in this thread will argue that American culture isn’t fundamentally rotten. That ship sailed, holmes
Write a bunch of depressing novels about alcoholics hurting each other and get hailed as a great writer. -Dostoyevsky
You know what his novels needed? Micheal Bay and Quentin Tarantino to rework them. Crime and Punishment would have been so much better with an epic ax fighting scene followed by a horse carriage chase that causes explosions.
These are all just emotional arguments & virtue signaling. You don’t have to respect him or like that he gets to live in jail while GF is dead. Wanting the justice system to function correctly and put Chauvin in jail just to turn around and celebrate it’s failures when he is shanked in jail is hypocritical.
I literally do not care. He is a cop. You’re asking me to give a fuck about the life of a ‘human’ who doesn’t care about anyone elses. I’m not doing that.
Lawful evil doesn’t count.
Yes, prison reform is badly needed. No, prisons shouldn’t be hell-pits of torture and suffering, and no, having them be that way doesn’t fix anything.
All of that is granted. A functioning civilisation gives up the emotional satisfaction of vengeance and vendetta, in exchange for the streets not being ankle-deep in blood all the time, and on the whole that’s a very good bargain.
But in the case of people who abuse and subvert the very system that facilitates that exchange?
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It’s paradox-of-tolerance stuff. We don’t have to give a shit about the welfare of abusive cops, any more than we have to extend tolerance and kindness to nazis.
He sat on a man and now he’ll shit in a bag
He kneeled on an innocent man’s neck until the man died, and now he’s in prison where guilty, dangerous people go.
Yes agreed 👍
it’s a sad world where a cop kills a man in the street just because he can i reckon
Was that intentionally a Fiona Apple reference?
i wouldn’t know how to make one of those if i wanted to
The same system he was responsible for sending people into as part of his daily work, assuming they were still alive.
Fuck this guy. I’m not saying it’s not sad how bad our system is… It’s a fucking travesty. But fuck this guy.
I agree. But I’m also thrilled to see that prisons are equal-opportunity shitholes for the demographics the powers try to imprison, and their own lackeys. Maybe this will shed enough light on how terrible prisons are that Americans collectively give a shit and try to fix them?
Maybe this will shed enough light on how terrible prisons are that Americans collectively give a shit and try to fix them?
That would be brilliant, but I just can’t see it happening. The right have consistently opposed any kind of reform and clearly want the prison system to punish people through rape, abuse and violence.
They’d obvious love to get one of their favourite state executioners out of that situation, but they’re not going to fix the system for millions of people – most of whom are poor, part of a minority group and therefore undesirables – to make it happen.
One thing that we never have to worry about is sheltered, pencil-necked ivory tower douchbags like yourself ever doing anything positive to solve any problem or defend your neighbors or yourself.
Should be, but this is the environment he helped create and uphold. If it’s only the folk in protective custody for whom prison stabbing and rape jokes are out of bounds, go fuck yourself. Go spend this energy on every off color remark about prisoners, not just the ones about pigs.
all our prisons should be like the norway prisons but even then, if you’re a cop like him, it’s kinda fair and i’m gonna be pretty happy hearing about it
It’s cathartic to call a spade a spade
Celebrating? Who is celebrating? I offered him the exact same thoughts and prayers that every political leader offers after a mass shooting at a school. Should I have given him twice as many thoughts and fucking prayers!? Would that make it better?
Lol it absolutely is not sad, it is justice served hot and fresh with a side of gravy. He does not deserve any pity or mercy and should have been executed instead of imprisoned in the first place.
Hopefully the next inmate will slice his throat or hit a major artery.
While this should not be a part of incarceration, I just can’t muster up the smallest detectable amount of sympathy. The slave trader and murderer is experiencing the crushing weight of the same racist system he was so proud to represent.
while in the law library
So he was stabbed while researching how to appeal? Almost poetic.
Derek Chauvin is a waste of oxygen and a drain on taxpayer resources
The other convicted criminal was just trying to save taxpayer dollars.
Yes, but I’m willing to fund a concrete box for him
Pine would be cheaper.
A random ditch would be even cheaper.
I hear his new nickname on the block is ‘El Scabbard’
Anyone doing a gofundme for John Turscak’s legal bills? I’d donate
I’m sure he has a commissary fund folks could contribute to
People hate this guy so much that they would give up their min-med security prison sentence to end him.
This is the only picture I can find of John Turscak that’s not the fake one. But I don’t guarantee this one is real either. Former Mexican Mafia member and FBI informant.
Is it just me or does this guy look exactly like a daytime TV actor for a former Mexican Mafia member and FBI informant?
Not anyone specific, to be clear, just perfect for the role
If this is him, I hope he does it again.
If it’s not him, I hope the real guy does it again.
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wait, hes still alive?
I thought a saw a news story where he was stabbed like 22 times and died?
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Where did I say or imply anything was sad?
Glad he is back there. It is where he belongs.
Thoughts and prayers
Bet he is a little sore.
Yeah, but I’m sure the prison will take steps to keep him safe so he can breath easy now.
Though there may be a slight whistling noise as he does so…
We can only hope so.
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Now do it again
