Lots of focus now around the flaws of the american healthcare system. What can we do now to ensure a better future?

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    6 days ago

    People seem to want to kill insurance company CEOs.

  • That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml
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    Right now the US is basically a two-party system with both parties bribbed by the same health insurance companies. The will of the people demands change, yet both parties refuse to implement change.

    Withholding your vote does nothing as it’s essentially a two-party system. Voting for one party or the other does nothing as they’re both paid off by the same health insurance companies.

    In desperate times when the government no longer represents the people, people turn to vigilantism to solve ongoing problems, as we saw with the killing of the CEO.

    It’s going to get a lot worse, there WILL be more killings.

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      This is getting off topic from the original post, but I did hear an interview on NPR of a few ways to lift the 2 party system. The only one that I can remember now is that each state would need to pass a law to allow the state to split theIR electoral votes. IIRC, Maine and Oklahoma(?) do this. The result is that if a state has 5 electoral votes, they would split the electoral votes amongst the candidates. If I remember the example right, Maine sent 2 votes for Trump, 2 for Harris and 1for someone else.

      Initially, this would weaken the state’s country-wide impact, but as more states vote in such a system, it would allow independent candidates to secure a foothold. I imagine that if all states did this, the net effect would be to have the 2 parties that we currently have soften their stance on things in order to secure votes that would normally have been lost to the independent.

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    7 days ago

    Two ways forward.

    1: Universal healthcare as seen in Canada.
    2: Private heath coverage with strict price controls set by the government as seen in Japan.

  • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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    I know it may sound callous, but if you have skills. A lot of countries are looking to fill skill shortages, you could emigrate to somewhere with a sensible health system.

    Failing that, as someone else pointed out. Grassroots action!
    Get involved, change the narrative build up from local level. Shooting CEO’s is not a long term solution, yes it grabbed attention, yes it showed how fucked off the population really is… build on that momentum.

  • badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    It’s not complicated. When it becomes more profitable for politicians to help the oligarchs than it does for them to help the working class, things will improve. So pick a politician helping the oligarchs and make it very “unprofitable” for them.

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    1. Civil War
    2. Revolution
    3. Societal Collapse
    4. Tribal, post-apocalypse
    5. Misinterpreted Bible leads to a few genocides
    6. Someone rediscovers the light bulb Pick back up around Edison on our timeline…

    You’re looking at around 2350 or so, so… good healthcare sweet spot is likely to be around 2420, supposing you ended up somewhere in the future that isn’t irradiated, or is irradiated in such a way that it regrows limbs, which could be good and bad.

    If you’re talking about working with what we’ve got, well… save some .PDFs in the war truck just in case you have to play field medic.

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    7 days ago

    Protest, riot, strike, etc. The government is owned by the robber barons. Aligning healthcare with a profit motive is violence of the highest order and we should respond in kind.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      Yup. Peaceful protest doesn’t register to rich people. They can’t hear it over the clinking sounds of their champagne glasses as they toast their profit margins.

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        For the rich to get the message you have to hit them where it hurts, in their wallets, their balance sheets, their portfolios, or their vital organs.

        Effective peaceful protests do this. If your peaceful protest doesn’t make a businesses have a loss it will be ineffective.

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    Assuming you’re a US citzen:

    1. Identiy that the fault is how we fund healthcare, not “government meddling” or “bad researchers”.
    2. Pick a major political party.
    3. Register as a member and find out where your local meetings are.
    4. Make clear that the ONLY issue you care about is fixing healthcare.
    5. Volunteer, donate, or run if you can.
    6. Vote in every general, primary, or special election for whomever makes fixing healthcare a priority. Spoil if you must, but VOTE.
    7. Dont fall for lies.

    Fixing healthcare funding is itself broadly popular, but since its inherently unprofitable to care for sick, disabled, or elderly people all possible fixes are either “socialism” or “die quickly”

    Healthcare should be like roads or schools or calling the police, not like cars or contractors or hiring a lawyer.

      • MrAlternateTape@lemm.ee
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        5 days ago

        Why not, it will definitely reduce the amount of sick people. Because they are dead of course, but still.

        Joking obviously.

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        7 days ago

        If you call the police you might wind up dead or in an institution for months or weeks.

        If you call for an am ambulance, you might wind up dead or in an institution for months or weeks AND will definitely have a huge bill that you have to pay.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      The single greatest problem with medicine in the US is insurance. It makes costs horrendous.

      I can pay less out of pocket for certain procedures than my copay.