- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
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- politics@lemmy.world
Summary
Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.
Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.
During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”
The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.
I can’t wait for Trump to die
I’m not American but wouldn’t that mean Vance becomes president? It’s tempting to think he couldn’t be any worse, but trump likes the fucker so who knows?
The main benefit of it is a lot of the MAGA movement will wither with him gone. Someone will be a successor to it, but I don’t think anyone is as influential to that movement as he is.
Vance doesn’t have any of Trump’s presence. He’s just such a weenie.
Honestly, Vance seems even worse to me. Trump has that embarrassing grandpa vibe and he seems too stupid to make any important decisions on his own or realize what he’s doing. Vance gives me a determined murderous intent vibe.
Maybe they can die together?
in a bunker somewhere
Poetry <3
I certainly wouldn’t be crying myself to sleep that night.
I don’t think anyone would be sleeping with so much partying going around lol
Sure, Trumpy and JD the Couch Fucker are dead however the new President is Mike Johnson. Looking at the Presidential Line of Succession, it’s shit all the way down.
After watching the trump, JD, zelensky situation, I lost a big of respect for JD. He acted like a twat. Trump is definitely a better president than him. President that is. They are both douchebags, but so far doing good for the country.
You need to drink your meds, grandpa.
Don’t indult your elders, grandpa’s have been through some shit. Sadly I can’t berate you with realities though as I’m not even close to being that old.
No indults. Got it, ya dipshit!
I’m curious, what good do you see trump doing for the country? It seems to me that he’s doing a lot of harm but we probably have differing views
Woman only in woman’s sports, sounds fair to me. Ending corruption in politics, giving soldiers who lost their jobs for not taking the experimental jab back their jobs, revealing the jfk, mlk files, trying to reveal the Epstein files, improving efficiency in governments spending of hard earned taxpayer dollars, ending wars etc. sadly trumps personality has gotten in the way of some of those, but so far, so good. I’m sick of people ignoring all the clear good he has done and just screaming ‘nazi’ and ‘hitler’ which is an insult to anybody aware of history. Those words involve pure evil. Don’t use them in vain. If trump starts sending people to gas Chambers and murdering races he didn’t like, I’ll be there with you screaming ‘nazi Hitler’ at the top of my lungs. That’s not reality though.
When I call Trump and Musk Nazis, I’m not talking about concentration camps or genocide as with 1940 Nazis either. I’m referring to 1933 Nazis which were using demonization of others, attacking independent media, and The Big Lie to consolidate power. These are what made the Holocaust possible.
Can women be in men’s sports?
What about the veterans who lost their government job?
What efficiency has been created?
What if he starts concentration camps, is that enough to compare Trump to Hitler? Or does it have to specifically be death camps? What if people in those concentrations camps just disappeared and nobody cound find them, would that count?
This must be the stupidest comment on all lemmy history so far.
Explain. What is bad about less corruption, more freedom of speech, less waste of taxpayer dollars, less wars, fair sports, less catering to the mentally ill, instead of yes manning them, actually offering them therapy, less racism, sexism etc, less dei. More catering to the 99.999% of the population.
There’s not enough crayons and sock puppets in the entire multiverse to get your dumbass to understand.
Less dei? Sorry English isn’t my first language, can you explain me what that mean?
DEI means diversity, equity, and inclusion. Generally loose frameworks to promote equality for all people. Big talking point for the right, they hate it.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dei-programs/story?id=97004455 https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/us/dei-diversity-equity-inclusion-explained/index.html
Recently a bunch of businesses cut their DEI policies for trump and government offices were ordered to kill anything DEI related.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion. The MAGAs have been spoonfed bs that caring for minorities and disabled is stealing their jobs and money.
Please name/link the wars that ended during his administrations. Why can’t the sports leagues decide who participates via their own rules?
I’ll give him Afghanistan as he organized the withdrawal… but we saw how big a fuckup that was, so bravo for ending that war after 20 years, but proves he has no idea what he’s doing.
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone said
DANGER Will Robinson! we can’t threaten people here, not even oompaloompas.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m not a great shot, but at 130m firing from a prone position I would have made that shot 9 times out of 10. Heck, I had my family on the range firing a diemaco c7 (the colt Canada ar15) as part of a family appreciation day in my home guard company. They hadn’t shot more than an air rifle before, and after about three rounds each they shot killing shots at a silhuet at 200m.
How that guy could miss is beyond me. Almost like it was intentional.
Adrenaline makes your hands shaky and the target was moving.
small razor blade to cut the ear and it became a near miss.
Yeah. Funny thing, that.
Oh shit. I just got here. I see Lemmy is dangerously woke too. Wishing someone to die is rather nasty. I do agree putting that on tv was stupid, world leaders should do all their negotiating (bickering) behind closed doors.
Not addressing the rest of the comment, but ”world leaders should discuss everything behind closed doors” is a dangerously shortsighted take. You do realize their job is to represent you, right? How do you think you can verify they are doing that if you are not allowed to see and hear what’s being said?
I mean, given this is the first time in history two world leaders have negotiated a peace treaty on live tv, yeah. That is not a good idea. They need to feel Free to argue and debate for hours without worrying about pride and pr in front of millions of people. But if you are saying transparency and showing every action on tv by presidents etc is good, then are you pro Donald trump? Because no previous president has been this transparent.
Well, it definitely isn’t a good idea if you’re Trump. I would love to know how Zelenskyy managed to get that kind of a meeting.
What am I saying? He probably just asked. “Hey, I would love to discuss this deal over our very valuable minerals. Let’s invite the newsmedia and record the whole thing, so everybody can see what an awesome negotiator you are!” Pretty easy to win a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.
After Musk testifies before House or Senate under oath, your transparency claims might become valid. Until then…
Man life must be so fucking easy for you to never feel threatened by politicians. It’s all just a big TV show in your eyes isn’t it?
Holy hell no. Politicians start wars and send innocent people to their deaths. It’s no joke.
I someone blows up a thousand people themselves they are a murderer and its socially acceptable to want them punished. If someone causes thousands of deaths in politics or business we should somehow respect it?
Hoping someone dies is the last thing left after morality is already dead.
I’m not sure what you are stating. I have watched ‘all quiet on the western front’ and remember being sickened by the bigwigs procrastinating over the peace treaty while every second people were dying. Great movie by the way. War fkn sucks.
Russia started the war in Ukraine, so it seems like it is entirely Russia’s fault and Russia should end it, no?
It was put on TV on purpose to make Zelensky look weak and make the US look strong (it’s called propaganda) and so daddy Vlad can see that Trump is a good boy.
I can happily confirm that the woke mind virus is alive and well on Lemmy.
You’re half right. It was put on TV to make Zelenskyy look good and for Trump and Vance to look like fools, and they played right into it.
It didn’t work very well, if anything it made zelensky look human, JD look like a prick, and trump look like… trump? I like what trump and co have done so far to fix the mess of woke and corruption, but even I didn’t like trump or JD after watching this. If they really were trying to do as you say, they failed. Big time.
Then go back to Reddit.
I would love to, sadly they only accept your kind over there. I am surprised to see you here, reddit is so much more intuitive. I dont know why you would be here by choice you are missing out on a perfect echo chamber for you over there.
Well, I hope you get outta here too because you are not accepted
I thought you LGBTQ were supposed to be accepting?
LGBTQ is surprisingly unaccepting towards bigots. And I find that pretty accepting because I am not a bigot.
We are. We do not, however, support fascists, those who are ok with mocking the disabled, grifters, those who are ok with intentionally misgendering others, those who support the marginalization of minorities, people that support the sale of our country to the highest bidders, etc. You support these a-holes and what they are doing to us and this country, therefore, you will not find much acceptance from a good many of us.
I’m not LGBTQ (although I respect them), sorry I’m just very upset with Trump and how much of a horrible person he is, or, more broadly, what the republican party is right now, I really wanted someone like Bernie who seems to actually be a good person, in power
When you aren’t going to be accepted here either so…
Ugh. Ok. If you lot are as nice and accepting as you like to claim, could you point me in the direction of a website with normal people to talk to then? Cheers.
Try Truth Social. I hear that is the place for head-in-the-sand, delusional, can-not-form-a-coherent thought, group-think individuals who worship at the feet of the 🍊 💩 bag.
I could have done without the paragraph of insults, but overall, cheers for pointing me in (hopefully) the right direction to find some sanity on the internet.
Happy to help if it gets you gone. As for finding sanity there, I’m pretty sure all you’ll find are grifters and bigots, but you do you.
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We are woke and bang hot liberal chicks. You are an incel and masturbate to anime and the fantasy of having a tradwife, a fantasy that will never materialize. We are not the same.
Ugh.
Tough shit, I know.
Yep