• ModestMeme@lemm.ee
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    56 minutes ago

    I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

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      32 minutes ago

      No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.

      Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.

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    2 hours ago

    These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

    It’s not a fucking immigration protest. They didn’t deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

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    2 hours ago

    Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

  • NutWrench@lemmy.ml
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    2 hours ago

    2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn’t want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

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    4 hours ago

    Funny how he doesn’t hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn’t do shit.

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    4 hours ago

    How many fakes are in the crowd manipulating the situation for the oppositions political gain?

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      32 minutes ago

      Normally yes, but the president has the power to federalize National Guard troops in extraordinary circumstances. That power hasn’t been exercised since 1965 though. Until now.

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    4 hours ago

    Doesn’t trump lose horribly every time he goes after CA?

    He’d have better luck waiting for something to go down in the Midwest, but yeah, w/e good luck.

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      29 minutes ago

      The question is what will convince individual troops and units that their orders are illegal. Disobeying orders isn’t something the military takes lightly. In theory a court order should be proof enough, but who knows these days.

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      And rather than fighting against people who can’t reach your home, those protestors can strike back. I hope anyone in the military realises that he’s putting their own family at harms way. That may very well change the equation. I’m sure they are willing to risk their own lives, but are they also willing to risk the lives of the kids?

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    8 hours ago

    This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight… except it’s not even a knife fight it’s a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump’s only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

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      4 hours ago

      This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we’ll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi’s trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

      By next summer it will get really ugly, and he’ll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

      Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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    13 hours ago

    Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

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      The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that’s not going to solve this. It’s just going to start a true resistance.

      There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

      As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that’s when they kill them.

      All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

      The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

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        I hope I’m not giving too much credit for a strategy, npbut it might just be an attempt to provoke a reaction. Either California backs down or they resist and there’s an excuse to take over. Look for a bunch of masked thugs to try to arrest Newsom for “treason”

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          Only useful if you know when and where someone will be. Obviously heightens surveillance capabilities, but they can’t be everywhere at once

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        6 hours ago

        https://youtu.be/SiFGr51ubV4

        This has been going on so long that there’s an 80’s Cheech and Chong parody song about it.

        The 1992 riots started in South Central, which is historically African American. East L.A. is sort of the hub of Hispanic “immigrants.” (immigrants in quotes there because America swiped that land after the Mexican-American war; lots of Hispanic Americans didn’t cross the border but had the border cross them).

        I don’t live there. I’m just an enthusiastic idiot. I love Los Angeles. So, I can’t do its history justice. Hopefully, someone else can. I have friends there and I go there a fair bit but it’s not my hometown so I don’t want to misrepresent L.A. (I live in New Orleans so L.A. and LA—the postal code for Louisiana—get mixed up a lot. So, I use L.A. for the city. No one else does.)

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        5 hours ago

        The Irish resistance is the closest analogue to what that kind of armed resistance would look like.