Today’s decision in Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton is a direct blow to the free speech rights of adults. The Court ruled that “no person—adult or child—has a First Amendment right to access speech that is obscene to minors without first submitting proof of age.” This ruling allows states to enact onerous age-verification rules that will block adults from accessing lawful speech, curtail their ability to be anonymous, and jeopardize their data security and privacy. These are real and immense burdens on adults, and the Court was wrong to ignore them in upholding Texas’ law.
The headline got me on the first third.
And now those VPN subscriptions go up, up, up.
sex is bad but dropping bombs on muslims is okay
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Here’s that nanny state Republicans were always talking about
Pretty sure “Nanny state” is a popular category of porn
But there’s no such legislation or required identification for my kids to see graphic violence and gore. We’re a pretty bass ackwards society.
ironic you self censored “ass backwards” on a comment calling out censorship.
they wrote ass backwards ass backwards. It’s a joke, not self censorship.
We’re so ass backwards my go-to thought was the censored version.
Are there graphic gore and violence websites that kids are frequenting by the millions daily?
Yes. Youtube. Cable TV. Every streaming service.
All have age warnings and restrictions.
So does pornhub.
Warning yes, restrictions no.
I’d love to hear from the 3 downvotes on why they downvoted me here lol. Do they think that pornhub does have age verification and restricts those who haven’t verified their age?
YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Peacock, Disney+, Max, etc. And that’s before we get into the bad faith false equivalence of comparing violence to nudity and sexuality. One is a natural and beautiful part of life, the other is literally violence.
And also huge lols at saying porn is just nudity and sexuality
Those all have age rating systems in place lol.
Wow, you didn’t just move the goalpost, you switched the sport. And “lol”, I guess?
How do you figure? The argument is that porn shouldn’t have age restrictions cause violence on tv and streaming media doesn’t…….but I pointed out that they do have age restrictions.
How is that “changing the sport”? What did you think we were discussing?
Are there graphic gore and violence websites that kids are frequenting by the millions daily?
The question was answered and you changed the topic. This is called a “moving the goalpost” fallacy. Looking at your comment history, it’s abundantly clear that I have inadvertently fed a troll, so that’s on me.
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Why does scale matter? If it was only 50k kids daily would it change your mind?
Putting it in the same perspective as the number that access porn.
So it’s a scale problem for you? What number is acceptable?
No, it’s not just a scale problem, but to even suggest that kids looking at graphic violence videos on YouTube etc is as prevalent as or as big of an issue as kids looking at porn is absurd. There are studies galore linking the consumption of porn in children to all sorts of behavioural issue, and studies showing that it’s increasing dramatically.
I have nothing against porn, I don’t think it should be censored or banned or anything - but age restrictions done properly (ie securely and privately) are long overdue.
And before you say it - yes, I think the same should apply to other not-suitable-for-kids content like extreme violence, vulgarity, etc. The difference is that all the streaming sites and other content hostels already have age verification. You can’t just click “yes I’m over 18” and watch R18+ or X rated content.
age restrictions *done properly (ie securely and privately)* are long overdue.
This does not exist.
It is claimed to exist, but you can’t name a single technology that guarantees security and privacy from the user to the source of the verification.
Are you willing to trust pornhub with your personal information? Xhamster? Kink.com? Motherless? Draft porn? PervertTube? And on, and on, and on.
You trust that every, single, individual, porn site is going to have both the know how, and scruples, to keep this data 100% secure and private?
Because I don’t even trust that a site can keep my credit card information private and secure, as has been shown to be a good bet over and over again despite there being a plethora of laws on how to handle such information.
It doesn’t exist, but that is what some are suggesting and hoping is going to be made with these laws being passed. It would be a really good thing for the internet and websites/apps as a whole tbh if a system like this is made, and it’s not like it would be difficult.
The sites wouldnt need your information, they would just verify that the person attempting to access the site is authenticated as being 18+.
Movies, books, and video games all have a decently sizeable amount, yea. Especially the Bible.
Movies already have ratings systems and age checks.
Books at book stores don’t generally have graphic violence and gore.
The bible is just text, there’s no gore or violence that kids can see.
What’s funny is the Bible is worse than most of the books that are banned as far as depravity goes.
Movies already have ratings systems and age checks.
Lol.
Books at book stores don’t generally have graphic violence and gore.
You realize words still count right?
The bible is just text, there’s no gore or violence that kids can see.
I repeat the above.
No, words don’t count as graphic violence lol. Graphic violence is defined as being in visual media, not written.
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if that’s the case, I hope you fall down the stairs and snap your tibia out of your skin and have to lay in your own pooling blood crying out in pain and anguish waiting for someone to call for help. only to have waited so long that you throw up on yourself and your gaping wound whilst you go into shock from blood loss.
how’s that make you feel?
You think reading that would make me feel the same as watching a video of that happening to someone?
Books at book stores don’t generally have graphic violence and gore.
…seriously? Go read The Boys or Chainsaw Man or Gantz
Nah bro didn’t you see his other reply? Words aren’t graphic in any way ever. It’s in the word. Graphic. There’s no graphics in books, it don’t have a graphics card!
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Free speech only applies to saying the N word
-Supreme Court probably some time in the future
Ah, the ol in haec verba Tarantino rule
Am I the only one who beleives that it would have been a more effective arguement to try and use the 4th amendment instead of the 1st? Violating free speech is just a weak claim, but “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches…” seems quite relevent here. But I am also not a lawyer.
I thought they just stuck down the one in Tennessee? What the fuck. Sick of these corrupt courts.