• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    22 hours ago

    All of those things have one UI, one process for success, and so all experience is cumulative and transferrable. Tap-to-pay is a new button and process and tap-spot each time, each vendor, each venue.

  • faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    Meanwhile my great grandmother, in her 80s, was able to learn how to boot up Win95 to play some puzzle games.

    I personally think it’s because she was never really one for passive entertainment. If she watched television, it was stuff like Wheel of Fortune and she played along. She hit up the library every week for fresh books, and did a lot of crochet and crossword.

    It’s similar to how I think her curiosity for life and refusal to be afraid is why she wasn’t a bigot. We have several interracial marriages in my family, and she never had a problem with it, despite being born in 1912.

    She lived to be 100, and I hope I’m half as cool as she was.

    • When my grandmother tried to tell me she didn’t understand computers we got her an iPad. She tried to tell us that was too hard too and I reminded her “you’re not an idiot grandma, babies who can’t read yet figure there things out”

      She figured it out, just needed a kick in the pants about the defeatism.

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    1 day ago

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who went from a relatively clever teen to being a fucking braindead idiot as an adult but I am concerned that this seems to be somewhat commonplace.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      22 hours ago

      We had consensus and critical thinking: if vendors tried to bring out 51 styles of tap-to-pay before, we’d quickly avoid the crap ones and stick to the ones that were consistent and compatible.

      No one’s going to put down their groceries and walk out because the tap-to-pay is this inscrutable mess sold off the back of an argentinian van. We’ll just get through it and hope the info isn’t skimmed to drain our accounts.

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
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    Wait, how have you guys fucked up payments this time? I thought the US was finally on board with everyone else after the chip and sign debacle

    In the UK (and anywhere I can recall travelling) we pretty much always tap (i.e. move your phone or card within 5cm) above the screen or a bit more in recent years, on the top of the machine for one of those touch screen ones.

    I think the only time I don’t manage to pay first time is when the terminal or my phone is broken

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      I’m in Canada and my issue is every machine wants you to tap somewhere different. They all have a label somewhere indicating where to tap, but sometimes it’s on a screen, sometimes a sticker somewhere, sometimes a handwritten note next to the machine… and there are so many other signs and stickers all over the place that I often don’t spot the right one right away, so it takes me a couple of tries. Other than that it’s very easy.

      But the cashiers always look at you judgingly like “why don’t you know how to do this basic thing?? It has the little logo RIGHT THERE beside these other 6 flashier logos.” Or at least in mind that what they’re thinking lol

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    1 day ago

    To be fair it is pretty finicky and you never quite know where the NFC receiver is on the payment terminal. Sometimes I just say fuck it and insert the card

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    Maybe if we had a fucking standard for the where the fuck the tap to pay is. We all knew the swype and inserts were because we could see the slots.

    But why be mysterious where the tap is? One machine will be in the corner but you can’t tap until it lights. Some is on the screen and you can tap anytime. Some are on screen and you can’t tap until you pick credit. Then there are those that say you can tap but the store doesn’t have it turned on so you can’t tap.

    Pick a fucking standard. It’s using the chip all over again, that was really fucking annoying too, you would go to swype and they say oh you need to insert the chip, next store you go to and you insert but they say that don’t work and you need to swype.

    • My annoyance with the chip cards was that some of the POS machines would say

      DO NOT REMOVE CARD

      for a long time before silently switching to

      REMOVE CARD

      without any other visual cues than two words in 10pt font disappearing. Like c’mon, change the background color from red to blue or something.

    • Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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      Fucking. Exactly. Tap is awesome. It’s fast, it works, but just fucking standardize where it’s at!

      But until then, as someone who works a register, people, please, look at the machines and see if there is a very clear label on it saying TAP HERE. I don’t know how every customer misses it, but they do.

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        please, look at the machines and see if there is a very clear label

        My local bodeguero says “okay, that’ll be $12, and tap on the very top when the total appears”.

        His machine doesn’t even beg for tips either – they pay their people enough.

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        People miss it because the sheer amount of extra crap that stores put in checkout lines had trained us to stop trying to read everything while we’re there. Also we’re watching for the total, not reading the text NOT on the screen

      • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        We miss the sign because we’re used to tapping at our normal store a certain way and your way is different. Our normal store doesn’t need a sign because it’s obvious.

        I’m guessing your terminal uses the “tap the corner” method and not the screen method. If I see a sign, it’s often the corner. I’ve never seen a sign that points to the screen.

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    I’ve been working retail almost 3 years, a lot of people don’t know how to use a card to pay for things.

    No, wiping it over the machine like a cloth won’t make it work better.

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      No, wiping it over the machine like a cloth won’t make it work better.

      Ironically, doesn’t it? If you don’t know where the reader and chip are (sometimes it’s not clear), keeping the card close and moving it all over will eventually hit the spot ;D

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        Has a very high failure rate. The more you move the card, the less likely the card is to work. If you put it in the proper spot and then wiggle it around, at least on most of the machines near me, it’ll nearly always fail.

        Wiping the card over the machine makes my machines throw a contact error and spit out a failure receipt.

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      Except the problem is not with it being digital. I think the only issue people have is being confused about where to tap, since that is different between machines and it’s not always clear. I guess I could memorize a few different common styles but again that’s not related to it being digital.