• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    Protecting Children does not stop at birth.

    Well, for the GOP, it does. They are so bad at protecting children in so many ways that Epstein is only a minor issue…

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    “Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren’t they? They’re all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you’re born, you’re on your own! Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don’t want to know about you!”

    • George Carlin.
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      Carlin was brilliant. There was so much that he said that was just absolutely true, but his delivery made it funny, rather than depressing.

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    Always remember: It’s anti-choice. That’s the true dichotomy, because pro-choice people are not anti life.

    Calling it anything else is putting lipstick on a pig, deceptive, allowing voters to feel good about being assholes to others; and whoever invented that term knew this perfectly well.

    Also, something something George Carlin.

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      Pro-birth. Your usefulness to their ideology stops after you’re born, at which point you become a burden to be exploited or discarded.

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        Forced-birth. They are forcing women to undergo painful physical trauma. They don’t give a shit what happens to anyone after.

        This is how you treat slaves.

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      Your comment was reported for

      Justifying the murdering of unborn children

      They obviously don’t understand that in many countries, it’s all-or-none, and don’t understand what a D&C is, or what it is considered.

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        in many countries, it’s all-or-none

        Do you mean many countries are totally 100% against abortions? I disagree. I think even the most conservative ones (USA excluded) see that there must be exceptions - if not to save the life of any mother, at least to save the life of the in-group’s wives.

        don’t understand what a D&C is

        What is it?

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          It’s the procedure to remove a stillbirth. It’s considered an abortion, even though the fetus is no longer alive.

          Women are dying because of this in some places, because doctor’s are afraid of legal issues.

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    Imo you can’t call yourself pro-life and be against a fair social system (at the very least regarding medical fees). Loosing your mother at age 6 becausee insulin costs 400$ a vial is not being protected, neither is dying from cancer at age 12 because the insurance won’t pay for your treatment.

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      100% agree. Someone once pointed out to me that if the antis really believed they were babies, there would be far more anti abortion terrorists. If they really believed that thousands of babies were being murdered just down the road, dramatically fewer people would just sit moaning about it. They’d be blocking roads, slashing tyres and bombing clinics overnight… or more extreme

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    Unless you’re q Republican, then feyussea are important, babies can go fuck themselves, the greedy little blasters always want money

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    For righties, protecting children stops at birth because at no point whatsoever are they ever about protecting children. A fetus is neither a person nor a child, nor does it exhibit any hallmarks of consciousness. It is simply a medical condition, so it’s a convenient thing to champion imaginary “unborn children” because real children - real living, breathing people - have actual material needs. Fighting for the living means doing things other than treating vulnerable people horribly, and that is, at the start and end of the day, the only thing those sadists desire.

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    Pro-lifers when they support a pedo to “protect the children” and kill immigrants, trans people 🤡

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    Incidentally Some folks might notice several Baltic banks are conspicuously involved in the Epstein affairs, facilitating transactions often between Epstein and some of the trafficked persons he engaged in.

    [Trigger Warning: Fucking cosmic-horror caliber real world scale mass child sex abuse is discussed.]

    In the 1990s the Soviet Union collapsed, and shit got dire. Children (like 8-9 year olds) were literally prostituting themselves on the street. For the price of a meal (which was pretty expensive) you could get a little boy or little girl to suck you off or engage in some other service. There were established rules of engagement, communicated by word of mouth, and prices were also decided and fixed. The kids actually organized all this on their own.

    This font of desperate kids is the source of the Russian pornography industry of the late 1990s and aughts. An awful lot of Russian adolescent girls were photographed and filmed and distributed world-wide. (As per other porn industries, girls were declared to be 18 since that’s the highest international legal limit. They often weren’t seldom were.) Russian girls got the same reputation that Swedish women did in the 1970s. A lot of it is CSAM and we don’t know which, because not all the girls have been traced to living women. Eventually, street-walking kids were, hungry and desperate, brought into the fold of the rising ру́сская ма́фия (Russian mob syndicates) who turned prostitution and porn into a globe-spanning industry, especially as USENET allowed long distance file transfer. The internet would follow.

    These starving kids, now peddled by the Bratva orgs are those from which Epstein hired his service girls (in this case, girls is literal), often as young as thirteen. Girls’ gotta eat.

    Let this be a warning to the US, as our government services, our benefits for low-income families and our economy collapses into a quagmire: Little kids prostituting themselves is a step in the famine deterioration process of society. If famine continues people start just literally eating children. Yes, we will go full cannibal if food becomes scarce enough.

    It’s better not to think about the situation in Palestine right now. Or maybe do and get motivated, because it’s already at Song of Ice and Fire levels of horrible over there. What is happening there will crack your brain.

    Seriously do not let it come to this. There are a lot of organizations trying to do this non-violently, but at the point our kids are starving, it’s time to start shooting (or maybe butchering) MAGA Nazis. Seventy seven million Trump voters are about, so we shouldn’t be short of game.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Anti-abortion access was never about improving the welfare of children. Historically, the laws we have to protect children (food provisions like Food Stamps / SNAP, medical care, child labor regulations, etc.) occurred only after we had animal protection laws, and someone noticed animals have more rights than kids do.

    Education was a result of kids out of work engaging in too much mischief. The point was containment first, and the whole let’s teach them some basics thing came later.

    And no-one wants to know the hazards that Victoria-era street urchins had to face. It’s better to imagine the Devil’s Dandy Dogs / The Hounds of Tindalos consumed those children who failed to dodge artfully.

    Today, the juvenile court system in the US remains a nightmare, where kids are warm bodies to fuel prison rackets. Children are not guaranteed Constitutional rights, nor the Miranda rights. They often do not get due process, and minors often suffer dearly for breaking laws that do not apply to majority citizens (adults). Woe to the black kid or adolescent that crosses path with police.

    One day the society built on the ashes of the US will actually take interest in the welfare and safety of children. But probably not in my lifetime.

    (When I played The Sims 2 a family had guests over, and the baby was on the floor (a distracted sim will put a baby on the floor on occasion), and one of the non-friend guests picked her up, fed her and changed her diaper. And I had to pause and cry that I don’t live in that society. Said guest then fell into the hold youngster abyss which in The Sims 2 is the substitute for crack cocaine.)

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      They also cut SNAP, PBS (where tons of kids and educational programming are), and Medicaid, so the kids’ parents will be sick.