The above image is all us folks in the UK see when you do, and if we try to use a VPN + incognito, we get this:
403 means forbidden, so the message is disingenuous.
They must have put some effort into block lists for VPN servers. Even if it works for some of us, it’s not worth it.
For more information on this, see this article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzxv5gy3qo
People still use imgur?
I do, that’s the only one I can remember which I can embed easily here.
What are the alternatives? I wish I could just upload images for comments in PieFed.
Catbox is basically what Imgur used to be before it went to absolute shit. You upload images, you can link to them. That’s it. You don’t need to create an account, but if you do, you can see everything you’ve uploaded. It’s free. Not really sure what more you can ask for in an image host.
Catbox is also nonfunctional on some VPNs.
Didn’t know that! I use an always-on VPN and I’ve never had issues with Catbox (but imgur blocks me), for what it’s worth.
Catbox doesn’t work properly on some US mobile carriers and I think Comcast, returns a DNS error
I just loaded it through a Comcast connection, so it’s definitely not an IP block or route issue. I don’t use Comcast’s dns though and I’m completely unwilling to do so even for test purposes so you could still be right.
I just upload directly to the instance, at least that’s what I think I’m doing. My app lets me do that (Boost).
Wdym? Can’t you see this image I am just embedding on the fly rn?
I can see it, But in PieFed I can’t upload one.
Interesting, I am using the voyager mobile app. Does that mean the functionality is there but the PieFed frontend hasn’t integrated it?
That is interesting, I just checked and your image is indeed hosted by PieFed itself and not by any external service like I assumed that the 3rd party apps would implement as a workaround.
I’m using Boost for Lemmy and I never questioned how it works, but I can just add images here straight from my gallery.
You are on Lemmy, I’m on PieFed
It doesn’t matter, it’s a clone with same functionality. There are users below uploading the same way I did and it uploads on their instance (piefed).
Realistically it’s just your front end lacking image upload function, but there is back-end for it.
To me it does matter because I can’t upload pictures to comments.
It sounds like the platform of choice for talking shit about the UK these days.
Until this I used it as my daily meme scroller
People in the UK should vote for non-insane representatives, that would be more helpful
Still waiting on that option 😟
Actually… If every voted libdem that might work
Ah yes, more power to the rich, that ought to fix it
You got Better option?
I love the Greens and their current direction, but they’re at the point where they’re saying unworkable things to get left wing support, knowing they’ll never have to follow through because they won’t win enough power.
I’m not familiar with UK parties to be honest, outside of Labour, the two make-rich-people-richer parties and the insanity party I don’t even know which parties there are. If I were British I’d vote for the leftmost and most environmentally friendly party I could find. If that is the Greens then that sounds good to me
There’s a reason why fringe parties tend to remain on the fringe.
Well, me too.
Sadly they’re a long long way from any real power.
That’s probably keeping many likeminded people from voting for them. A result of the deeply unfair FPTP voting system. In my country we long ago had a similar system, it resulted in a single party state, until it was reformed to a proportional system.
That would definitely increase both voting and representation for the Greens, yes.
Tactical voting is a big thing in the UK to mitigate some of the imbalance of the FPTP system, along with informal electoral pacts between parties.
Tbf to them it’s not their fault that the once leftwing party “randomly” decided to put a boneless liberal right before an election that had them winning for sure
I wonder what lobbies and their media have to say about that magic trick
The alternatives who are most likely to take power:
Farage who will abduct and deport my wife.
The Tories who can see Farage being popular with bigots and aiming to be even more cunty.
Not really a shit post.
Sucks for the UK.
Works fine with a VPN for me.
I put it on here because it’s one of the communities that posts the most photos and I’ve seen a few Imgur embeds posted here in the last day or two. Feel free to forward to any other channel.
As for it working for you, yeah I suspect they have some IP ban lists, and it definitely won’t cover every VPN, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask someone to use a different VPN to see your post. Not that you were necessarily implying that.
I just don’t see why we should boycott imgur because of something the UK government did to them.
I’m not calling us to not use it as a boycott measure. It’s more of a practical consideration for other users like myself who won’t get to see your posts at all.
There are alternative approaches that don’t cause these problems so I’d like people to use them.
Imgur has been shitty for years at this point. They kept fucking with the UI when all I wanted to do was upload images and share the link. They should have stayed in their lane, not try to reinvent their platform as social media. Then their wholesale blocking of VPN traffic? Tired of that nonsense. I use imgbb now.
I will say I don’t like the direction imgur went, but to play devil’s advocate, I don’t think there was any way around it.
The problem is that being an image host used by millions of users is incredibly expensive, and between needing to pay for the infrastructure, content moderators, and (in this case) regulatory compliance, it all adds up.
The only income model they have is ads, which is why they needed to re-tool the UI to hinder users’ ability to direct share images, and converting it to a more social media type of format keeps users on the site so they can cycle in more ads for more revenue.
An ideal internet would not need to rely on ad money to work, but I’m struggling to think of what else could be done at the scale imgur operates, as donation models can barely even keep Lemmy instances above water. If ad money wasn’t a thing, would sites like imgur be able to exist? Maybe they shouldn’t, I don’t know.
Always wondered how Imgur stayed afloat in the first place. As to people whining about ads, yeah I block everything I can, but I’m not about to bitch about Imgur providing me a free service and sending ads.
Like you, I don’t see a way around it. Sites like Imgur have to be provided by private enterprise, and that requires funding. Can’t see how a subscription model works, people simply wouldn’t pay.
God forbid the government fund any of it. Look how the Brit and American politicians are fucking up sites that aren’t even government! And don’t start me on what American government sites are deleting and displaying.
And it’s not just known IPs from commercial providers. I rolled my own OpenVPN server on a Digital Ocean droplet. BLOCKED.
They kicked me to the new layout which I abhor, rather not use the site at all. Took me 10-minutes to find the non-obvious place they hid the option to roll it back.
so what you say is, we have a means to post things in such a way the british can’t see them… 🧐 /j
wait am I british o.O
sorry you had to find out this way 😔
wait it doesn’t work for me either
It does not work for me and i am in Italy…
it doesn’t even work for me lol
either my instances CDN uses a UK server somewhere and that blocks it, or you just can’t post imgur images in comments
i guess we are all british on this cursed day… 😔
Yeah I’ve had this issue when using Mullvad. Definitely a VPN specific issue.
My VPN is custom and they block me. How can they tell the traffic is being routed via VPN? I should know this, can’t quite remember how that works.
Where are you hosting your custom VPN? I assume some kind of server rented from a data center. Which means your IP address will be from a data center, not a residential or mobile address.
This doesn’t seem like it’s Imgur’s fault for trying to avoid prison. Perhaps more fire is needed in your local MP’s home?
Them blocking VPNs is a bit much though. At that point I don’t feel like it’s their responsibility.
I noticed with some basic testing with VPNs that a PC running Linux and a VPN is fairly obscured with no DNS or IP leaks. But when doing the same with an android phone, even with a good VPN, the browser still passes unique identifiers of the phone.
So I’m thinking the ones who say they can still use imgur are probably accessing it via a PC and not a phone.
It’s not accessible with a pc either.
I’ve been wondering about this for a while, what do people recommend for FOSS imgur alternatives (or just simple image hosting)? 🤔
(Of course the UK should just allow free access to information, but I would still prefer to be able to use something FOSS anyway)
For Lenny I think you can just upload directly, which is what I do. More generally I’m not sure.
There are a million services like this but I doubt many are FOSS as there are significant coats involved in large-scale image hosting.
Loading directly on lemmy sucks for me. When someone does that in a comment, I’m stuck with whatever resolution the thing is, can’t make it big enough to see or read.
I don’t want to use the feature because I have to download then upload the pic I want. Not seeing a way around that.
What kind of coats? I like coats
I think a significant coat would have to be either a trenchcoat or one with a huge fur collar.
"both the ICO and Ofcom - the media regulator enforcing the Online Safety Act - said Imgur suspending access for UK users had been its own “commercial decision”
They’re just trying to avoid getting fined by the UK.
Is this because of the UK age verification thing?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_age_verification_in_the_UK
See the attached article, but yeah pretty much.
Probably not directly, but we don’t know because Imgur has unprofessionally decided to return an incorrect raw JSON error message instead of explaining the block.
There is a message from the ICO noting the block and that it was considering fining them for failing to take user reported age as part of account creation. This is different from the OSA age verification
If anyone wants to selfhost their own replacement I just spun up picsur a couple months ago and highly recommend it. Dead simple and lightweight.
How does that handle the initial flood of requests when every federated instance asks for a freshly posted image all at the same time? Or is that a smaller problem than I am imagining?
I’ve been looking for something like this. Thank you!
should be: 451 Unavailable For Legal Reasons
It’s not due to legal reasons though. They just decided to exit UK, because they’re trying to avoid paying fines for previous infringements.
It’s not due to legal reasons though. They just decided to exit UK, because they’re trying to avoid paying fines for previous infringements.
What previous infringements?
“The ICO launched its investigation into Imgur in March - saying it would probe whether the companies were complying with both the UK’s data protection laws, and the children’s code.”.
Just do some research dude
it would probe whether the companies were complying with both the UK’s data protection laws, and the children’s code
So it was for legal reasons. Wow, such surprise.
Just do some research dude
Could you not tell that I wasn’t seriously questioning what the infringements were, and was poking fun at your comment that it wasn’t for legal reasons?
Nobody forced them to quit the UK, there are no laws saying they can’t operate in the UK. So what legal reasons?
- Imgur leaves the UK because they’re allegedly uncompliant with data protection laws
- “Legal: Of, relating to, or concerned with law” - wordnik.com
Imgur hosts pictures of naked people. Pictures of naked people are illegal to send to the UK. How is that not a law saying Imgur can’t operate in the UK?
Good job Imgur, kick the brits off your site until they stop being wankers.
That sounds like a you problem, sorry.
I feel like making some memes mocking the UK and posting them there now.
Victim blaming much? We didn’t ask for this. In fact, we specifically asked not for this. Same as how most US folk didn’t ask for a dictator to run their country and making fun of them for living in a dystopia is a bit tasteless.
It’s not a big huge deal, sure, but I also think it’s not a big ask for posters to do things differently.
We didn’t ask for this
The UK is a democratic country. The electorate saw fit to put insane greedy cunts with sociopathic traits in power. Also to leave the EU, lol
Fight within your political system, while you still have one, don’t work around its effects.
