Whats the point of writing prn, f@ck, sht or anything like that instead of the actual words? You can still read them, its not like they are gone if you replace a letter or two.
On Lemmy, there’s no good reason. But they may be carrying over habits from other sites where there is harsh censorship of non-advertiser-friendly language
On lemmy.ml at least, there’s a very good reason cause the admins are authoritarians. Can’t even say “bitch” without it getting removed.
Good to know which instance to avoid!
So then that leads to the question: why is lemmy.ml run by a bunch of prudish babies?
A better question is why do you feel the need to die on the hill of using slurs?
Because swearing is a natural part of the human experience and most level headed people don’t feel the need to suppress human expression.
Swearing serves an important biological need to express emotion and communicate. Psychologically, we swear to express strong emotions and when people swear, they are inherently viewed as more trustworthy or honest. Swearing helps people bond.
They’re not talking about swearing. Call someone a fucking shit-eating worm is fine. But on the other hand are words used to insult marginalized groups (women, homosexuals, the mentally disabled, etc.). B/*itch, wh/*ore, c/*nt; c/*cksucker, f/*g; r/*tard, a/*tist, etc.
These are the words being blocked. Not swears, slurs. You can say fuck, shit, damn, and hell all you want.
For what it’s worth, I tend to fall on the side of a little bit being fine. I don’t use those words (except the slurs against w/*men), but if there’s one thing I fucking hate, it’s Scolds. If Felix Biederman wants to call people r/*tards and c/*cksuckers, I think he should be allowed to, and I’m not going to try to cancel him for it.
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I think there’s some miscommunication here. You’re the only person in this thread that brought up slurs. Everyone else is talking about swear words which is a different thing. I don’t think anyone here is saying slurs aren’t bad. What people are saying is it should be ok to use swear words, which you just demonstrated with your comment.
I’m not confused, misogo is so rampant that people don’t even consider them to be slurs, kind of like what used to happen to ableist slurs.
I’m willing to bet a good amount of people in this comment section used to use ableist slurs before they were told not to, because they treat slurs as “words I’m not allowed to say” rather than genuinely not wanting to hurt the groups that said slurs are targeting.
What a gosh darn cunt.
“Bitch” is not a slur. It is a swear. Swears are fine, slurs are not. They are not equivelant, and shouldn’t be treated as such.
I hate ml mods as much as the next guy, but also I would consider “bitch” to be kinda misogynistic in certain context.
The same can be said of any gendered term. That’s honestly a comment on the context more than the word.
If you say the word bitch is as offensive as the f slur, t slur or n word, then you’re saying those slurs are as harmless as the word bitch. If you believe that, I am offended by you. Do not put them in the same group.
see the problem I have here is by banning a word that is used as a slur maybe once every 1000 times you remove the 999 times it was not used as a slur, thereby making the situation worse rather than better. Banning words does fuck all to promote a healthier culture, all it does is make the vultures migrate to the next word they load up with negative connotations
because fuck you? /s
Holy fucking hell. What kind of pearl clutching Victorian era bullshit is that?
Why do you feel the need to bitch about it?
“Don’t do the thing” “I’m going to do the thing you just told me not to do”
Rape culture.
Rape culture
Because someone said bitch and doesn’t follow your orders?
Lol.
But you’re also probably trolling
Imagine being so far right that you think basic decency is “trolling”
Garbage human.
No.
But thank you for establishing the fact you lack the cognitive capacity to engage this thread in good faith.
Whatever, rapist.
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I’m just surprised I haven’t been banned from .ml yet for calling out tankies when they do shitty tankie things.
Fun fact 1: if you do get banned or have your comments removed you’ll only know if you check the modlogs. And likely only if you check the modlogs of the instance that took action against you as the modlogs don’t fully sync between each other.
Fun fact 2: you have been in the past, here’s a link to the mod actions against you on .ml
Fun fact 3: and so have I, I only just recently finished a 2 week ban over here on .ml for calling that kind of stuff out on here.
Edit: That didn’t take long @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works looks like you got banned for your comment.
Sounds shit, the admins must be right bitches
“Being polite and using inclusive language is authoritarian”
You can be goddamn polite and still swear without automatically becoming a fucking asshole.
What you say can oftentimes be more important than the words you use to express the idea
Here’s a great stand-up routine that highlights what I mean. Fair warning: there’s some pretty NSFW language in it.
“There are no bad words, but there are several bad ways to express what you mean”
–Me (tho I’m sure someone way smarter than I has put out the same idea, but better worded, ironically enough)
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Although I totally get why lemmy.ml would want to do something like that, it’s not “being polite…”, it’s “enforcing politeness…”
If you gave “authoritarian” to an AI that determined what it meant through it use alone, it would think it means “Won’t let me be a nazi”
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White liberals don’t try to justify using slurs challenge 2023 [IMPOSSIBLE!]
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Biiiiiiitch…
Oooh ooh oh i’m sooo triggered right now 😒
You know what it’s called when you do something someone has clearly stated they don’t like? It’s called rape culture, but that’s not a conversation any of you crackers are ready to have yet. You all still need to have basic decency explained to you in a youtube essay.
Let’s get something straight right here, rape culture is not simply doing something that someone else has expressed a distaste for. Going into a public forum that you do not own or have control over, asking/telling the people there to act a certain way, and them responding by ignoring that request is not rape culture.
If it was a more private situation, like a group chat among friends, or even a public forum but an individual discussion between a small group of 2-3 people talking directly to each other, respect should be given to requests. If you were having a back and forth conversation with someone, and asked them not to swear while talking with you, they should respect that. But coming into public forum and demanding everyone else adhere to your rules, then spouting “rape culture” if they don’t follow along, is only cheapening the phrase “rape culture” and removing meaning from it.
That rhetoric is the same as when neo-nazis go around saying “lets not cheapen nazi by calling everyone we disagree with nazi”
Not a good look.
No words should be cheapened. None of them. Not Nazi, not Fascist, not woke, and not anything else.
They all have meanings for a reason. Better we all learn them and use em correctly instead of throwing the word at something irrelevant just because we don’t it as if we were children.
Let’s just get this out of the way…
Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits. And sometimes fart turd twat bitch.
Whatever is censored is being filtered by your instance.
I’m on an aussie instance, it just called you a fucken lightweight.
Whatever is censored is being filtered by your instance.
I fucking love the fact that im instance admin
No censorship here. Could’ve guess with the instance’s name but still good to know! Thanks :)
Carlin’s Big 7 + 4, loud’n’clear.
Okay I’m going to eat the onion. What are words 5 and the last one?
C o c k s u c k e r is word 5. T i t s is the last one on that sentence. B i t c h is the last word of the post.
Lemmy.ml sucks. I really need to move on.
Fuck, shit, pussy, ass, motherfucking, damn, bitch Bitch, damn, motherfucking, ass, pussy, shit, fuck
-Chop Chop Slide
My video was posted 12 years ago and yours was only posted 9 years ago. Check mate, atheists.
The video was actually recorded in the 1970s though. Checkmate theists?
Wait, so now I need to eat fish on Fridays? But I hate fish…
That’s ok…you can have beaver instead if you like. Take that however you wish…
Anally?
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I fucked your mom
I haven’t heard that song in ages
My mind auto harmonized with this comment
They played it in their most recent tour. Great setlist
That’s awesome. I had it on a compilation record from fat wreck called, “Short Music for Short People” had like 100+ songs and the rule was they had to be 30 seconds or less. Had some bangers, that one included.
Comes from the social media platforms that auto remove stories that contain certain words. Tiktok, Instagram, etc.
Cool, all the platforms I don’t use anyway.
Think I just don’t like places that are squeaky clean.
TikTok and Instagram are squeaky clean?
Some of them coughlemmy.mlcough has a swear filter
edit: world->ml
I’m on lemmy.world and there is no fucking swear filter.
My mistake, I meant .ml, accidentally conflated the two.
I do come across a lot of removed while browsing on my .world account when the blahaj is being iffy, not sure what that is from.
I think for posters on .ml, the words are actually removed and not just hidden from them. So that’s why you see it from other instances on their posts too.
The communists are policing speech? Who would have guessed
A filter? Let me test it right now…
Fuck.
Unless this is a shadowban type filter, it seems to not be there…
Fun fact: you won’t get told when your stuff is removed or if you get banned. You have to check the modlogs.
This is Lemmy wide.
And looks like it’s still up as of 2 hours after you posted
Edit: Spelling
Edit 2: Spleling
Interesting, I didn’t even know there is a modlog.
Did it work? How about bitch? That one came up often when searching to see where I fucked up with my info.
Theirs didn’t, yours did
I think it’s not a swear filter, but more like a ‘potentially discriminatory terms’ filter.
I see. I don’t mind filters that remove racist or homo/transintolerant slurs, that’s keeping a community safer and inclusive rather than enforcement of politeness.
What’s a female dog called?
A good girl.
Tbh that one drives me nuts, on some sites I can’t even say “Yeah I was bitching about Bad Idea’s availability to my shop’s owner and he said he didn’t want to carry their products because the guys running it are cunts.” (Curious to see what happens to this comment lmao)
Like dude, I’m the one I said was bitching about the thing, don’t fucking censor my colloquialisms, I wasn’t even trying to insult me!
Let’s test that one…
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Edit::What do you know, it was actually filtered.
Wow I didn’t know that. Good thing I switched to a different instance (although it was mostly due to poor performance on lemmy.ml at the time).
I’ve seen that for words that are considered to be ‘triggers’, as if saying ‘r@pe’ is somehow different at all than just using the normal vowel.
That behavior drives me up the fucking wall, because by munging the word they make it less likely to be caught by user-invoked blocklists. Meaning they’re forcing people to be triggered after taking steps to avoid such.
Don’t fucking do that shit.
for the blocklist or whatever: rape
A lot of it comes from Tiktok culture. YouTube has started doing it too.
Videos that say “kill”, “rape”, “died”, etc are all deprioritized by the algorithm if not demonetized entirely.
People have been editing subtitles to avoid these words, and the behavior spread.
That makes sense.
I suspect it’s largely become a habit from people being on platforms that have automatic blocked word filters.
I have been watching Rick and Morty lately and every now and then I have to change the site to find a version of the episode I’m watching where swear words aren’t censored. Like, it’s a show made for adults full of violent and sexual themes, so I think that most viewers have heard the word “fuck” before. I hate it so much when people censor “bad words”, even though nothing prevents them from saying them.
There’s a bar in my area that has the TouchTunes jukebox set up to be censored. I’m an adult at a fucking bar and I can’t listen to something with a swear word, ha ha.
One time I was at a MicroCenter (kind of like Best buy) and Nine Inch Nails’ “Closer” came on the store music. I was like who the fuck plays a radio edit of this song what’s the point?
It was not a radio edit. We all heard “wanna fuck you like an animal” in all its original glory. A+ would buy wireless keyboard from there again.
God I worked at a bar that played NWA but with the naughty words bleeped out. It’s a fucking bar! First of many problems with that place.
One show where removing the censor was a detriment: Metalocalypse. They used a guitar sound on our first few seasons, and replacing that with the actual a wear words was just… less funny? I’ve never felt that way about a show before, or since.
cause i’m f@cking polite you a$$hole!
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Tbh I agree, but not like that. Self-censorship is useful in the sense of a larger vocabulary or unique or silly insults, or slang/code like Jive, but to use a word and still censor that word is preposterous. Just use a differen’t word you turkey! Don’t just say “d!ck” for “dick,” say “weiner,” it’s more funny anyway.
One possible reason is that some words on controversial subjects can attract mobs of posters with an agenda. They search for keywords to find threads to flood with their arguments.
So posters would get in the habit of saying something like “I love p1n3apple on p*zza” to avoid the wrath of pizza purists (made-up example, but substitute with anything more controversial).
This was a big problem during the 2016 election on reddit. There were armies of idiots who searched for comments containing ‘Trump’ and would brigade the shit out of it. But if you changed the ‘p’ to a ‘р’ (the Cyclic character) or changed the ‘u’ to a ‘ս’ (the Armenian character) miraculously you wouldn’t be brigaded.
Habit. If I name my folder “Pron,” then nobody who sees my desktop will know what’s in it.
Because instances have language filters. On lemmy.ml you can’t say “female dog”, it shows as “removed”
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$ echo -n 'bitch' | xxd 00000000: 62e2 808b 6974 e280 8be2 808b 6368 b...it......ch…What’s your trick? Alt code?
1337 speak: b1tch, 8itch, etc
Slightly different vowels: bıtch, bîtch, etc
I have noticed that my phone will autocorrect/misrecognize some swears. Fuck is often duck.
At least on android, i find you can enable offensive words in keyboard settings to fix this
I am not going to login to see it, but I appreciate your effort. 😁
Didnt realise you had to login to see nsfw models. Thats the model in question:
Because G-d forbids me from speaking or writing foul language.
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Bitch
You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Thanks a lot, you shitbrained, fart faced, ball breaking, duck fucking pain in the ass.
You lewd, crude bag of pre-chewed food dude.
Generally I don’t care about words like bitch, fuck, shit, but there are certain servers and communities where cusses or other words are used harmfully towards groups that the community or server is inteded to be a supportive place for, and when they come up in discussion, even just as examples as what was said to them are rightfully censored or have a trigger warning placed in front.
Community mods and server operators can get overboard with this but they get that privilege because they do the work to moderate it anyway.
To answer your question. They don’t like that stuff.
EDIT Having instances censor stuff for you is bad. Users censor themselves is fine.
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Shit mother fucker ass tits cunt cock mother fucker shit ass tits mother fucker shit come on
I still remember.
