Sean “Diddy” Combs was accused in a lawsuit on Wednesday of gang-raping a 17-year-old girl in 2003, marking the fourth sexual assault allegation lodged against the producer in recent weeks.
The plaintiff, identified as Jane Doe, alleges that she was flown on a private jet from Michigan to Combs’ recording studio in New York, where she was raped by three people, including Combs and Harve Pierre, the president of Bad Boy Entertainment.
According to the suit, Combs and his associates plied her with “copious amounts” of drugs and alcohol. The suit alleges that Combs raped her over a bathroom sink while she went in and out of consciousness, and that Combs then watched as a third man also raped her.
Look, I’m sorry, but I’m beginning to think this guy’s a real jerk.
y’all think he did it? I’m starting to think he did it.
Absolutely, but she was probably willing at the time.
I don’t think most people are above having sex with rich and famous people then trying to receive money if they think they can get it. It’s just human nature.
She was underage at the time.
Yeah, I think she was 17.
Is that what you would do?
If I was 17 I could easily see myself having sex with a rich and powerful lady.
I don’t think I would try to get money out of it cause I’m not a shitty person though.
A 17 year old isn’t an adult per US law. They legally cannot consent. Even if a 17 year old is “willing”, the adult in the situation should not fuck the 17 year old. Doing so not only makes the adult a shitty person, it makes them a criminal who raped a child.
This is straight up incorrect. 17 is the age of consent in New York, and many other states are 16. A minority of states have 18 as the age of consent.
I agree it’s fucked up for an adult and a teen to be together, but this is a law we’re talking about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
Unfortunately there are still states where like 16 and 15 are the ages of consent
I wasn’t talking about the law.
I had sex at 17 with an adult and have 0 regrets. It’s pretty normal. I think I would’ve had more regrets if I refrained from doing it because people like you think that’s what I should do, lol.
To put things into perspective and why it’s always good to talk specifics, I was 17 and she was 20. I guess she’s a shitty person who raped me and should be in prison, lol. We ended up being together for years, it was a great relationship :)
But I guess from your ‘logic’, if this occurred in a different jurisdiction (or if I had waited 2 months for my 18th birthday,) then she would be off the hook for any and all judgement.
It’s funny watching you people always pivot to the law as though every law is just and people are good based on how well they obey laws.
people like you
I was raped as a child so yes I am very against people having sex with one. I frankly don’t care how your relationship turned out. Legally, she raped you. Besides that, a 20 year old is in a vastly different stage of life than a 17 year old. I’m glad you turned out fine, but congrats on being an exception.
There’s so much more to the situation anyways besides age. Power dynamic is a HUGE part of consent. It’s the same reason why a rich 40 year old is still a shitty person for fucking an 18 year old, even though it’s legal.
I can’t believe you are putting this much effort into defending the fact that an adult gang-raped a child.
Therapy might help with everything you said.
I think going outside would help you understand better.
Fuck off with that shit.
I mean, having sex with people of certain ages is illegal for a reason so it doesn’t actually matter if she was “willing” if she was under the age of consent. Also, drugging a person removes their ability to make an informed decision to consent so again, even if she did agree to it, her consent wasn’t valid on that point either. In other words, she wasn’t capable of consenting so, ya know, rape.
I’m not talking about convicting the perpetrator. Please stop assuming, lol.
Legally speaking, there is no ambiguity.
But in reality, there is. If you can’t understand that, it’s probably because you don’t want to.
You know, everyone keeps saying “the worst part is the hypocrisy,” but I disagree. I think the worst part was the raping.
(I feel kind of bad making this joke in this thread, but on the other hand… Norm. So…)
Thats a bit premature /s
Like the Snoop Dogg case, I assume this will also be dropped sooner rather than later.
It’s very hard to prosecute these historical cases, and going against someone this famous is doubly horrific for the victims, so I doubt he’ll ever see justice.
Hope she at least gets a payout. And that 50 cent goes ahead with his documentary about it all, so the guy is thoroughly shunned for the rest of his life.
I missed the thing about 50 doing a documentary, and it’s more fun to talk to humans than just Google something so… What’s going on with that?
They’ve openly disliked each other for years. Rumour is that 50 Cent’s production company is now making a documentary about the sexual assault allegations, although 50 hasn’t cofirmed or denied it yet.
I don’t know rap as much as some, but I have this sneaking suspicion 50 Cent is about to get shot again.
Yes, but he’s built up a tolerance over the years, it probably won’t affect him too much.
Bro is like gasoline, unleaded.
TIL getting shot is like a vaccination against bullets.
That actually sounds pretty interesting. 50 cent doesn’t seem like a saint to me, but I’m curious how he would handle something like this.
Could be good!
Damn, I’d give that a watch.
wouldn’t it be weird if fiddy came out the hero in all that early 'aught rap?
Three 6 will be the last two walking
Rumor is it will be titled "Surviving Diddy. "
This is his fourth case.
So at the very least the woman in this fourth case has a shot at some kind of justice.
This is a civil case, which has a lower standard of proof.
I thought he told you that he won’t stop
This was at the bottom, and I had left the thread before I realized what I glimpsed. My god friend, well done.
My brother in Christ, truer words have never been written.
He’s gone downhill ever since Donkey Kong took the spotlight back from him
R Kelly -> Chris Brown -> Pee Diddley -> Kanye
When will it end?
When we stop celebrating narcissists and start punishing them for shitty behavior before they get this far.
Rich people facing consequences??? No we just can’t have that.
Of course, they do all happen to be black and in the entertainment industry. MeToo doesn’t quite reach “oil execs” yet.
I think their implication was that we should try to get them before they’re rich
Pee Diddley
Lmao
It’s wild that you can bring these lawsuits 20 years later. How is he supposed to defend himself when the Jane Doe only needs a preponderance of evidence? How can he produce an alibi after so long? Is there corroboration? I don’t know how I feel about these super-old lawsuits.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/preponderance of the evidence
I’m with you on this. Evidence should be required before any person on this planet is subject to infamy, time in a cage, or death.
The investigation should be quiet until evidence is collected that is sufficient for a charge in the first place.
I don’t know this man, I’m not a fan of his work, there is no bias in me for or against him. When we’re talking about upending a persons life, evidence should be everything.
Makeing the accusations public can help gather converting evidence. People will know if they have some information in support or defence of the allegations that they can come forward.
It also makes it easier for others that have been a victim of a similar crime by the accused and his associates. It’s likely if this crime happened, it happened more than once and to many victims.
he’s undoubtedly guilty, but it’s been 20 years - why didnt she come forward earlier? the statute of limitations has probably lapsed
This is probably related to NY recently changing their rules regarding civil suits for sexual assault. The same change that prompted the Trump case.
I’m sure for a 17 year old in 2003, going after someone so wealthy and powerful seemed insurmountable. But the rule change seems to be allowing some victims to finally get some form of resitution.
Can you elaborate on what this rule change is or give me some information to research and learn more?
It’s called the New York’s Adult Survivors Act. Here’s an article about it: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/11/24/adult-survivors-act-diddy-jamie-foxx-sexual-assault-new-york/71693294007/
Wow, thanks for sharing this.
I had no idea they had a ‘1 year window’ to report claims. That’s fucked up and I’m genuinely curious what talks went on to get something like that passed.
He tried to kill Kid Cudi by blowing up his car, I imagine a 17 year old was (correctly) pretty scared of what a man in his position could do
In one incident described in the court papers, Ms. Ventura says that in early 2012, Mr. Combs grew so angry about her dating the rapper Kid Cudi that he said he would blow up the rapper’s car. “Around that time,” the suit says, “Kid Cudi’s car exploded in his driveway.”
Through a spokeswoman, Kid Cudi confirmed Ms. Ventura’s account that he had a car that exploded. “This is all true,” he said.
-NYT
(Free article: HuffPost)
…wow
Fear or shame, probably.
Didn’t some law or something come in where cases like these can still be heard in court? I’m pretty sure that’s why we’re seeing an influx of these articles.
Rape and murder have no statue of limitations I thought.
NM has a 7 year statute of limitations on murder. Rape has similar in many places.
Welp that’s sad and disappointing.
Did a quick Google and it looks like while there is a statue it was extended in 2019 to 20 years for second degree and 10 for third degree, with no limits in incest and first degree. It was 5yrs for second and third which was wildly inadequate imo.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/us/new-york-law-rape-statute-of-limitations-extended/index.html
That seems insanely short. But given the history the mafia had in that state it shouldn’t surprise me
I was not aware we had a history of mafia here.
Shit that’s on me, too high and thought it said NV
That’s it? Jeez.
It appears that it may have changed. My childhood best friend was murdered in 2007, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute the suspect at the time. Last I heard there was more evidence now.
Eh, I’m dubious. This sounds like she had a good time and now she sees she might be able to get some ‘compensation’ for it.
Gross dude
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Yeah, it’s pretty disgusting behavior. But I don’t expect more from people, usually.
Greed and instant-gratification are some of our most prevalent and worshiped traits.
Yes, you are dubious.
No you don’t understand she wanted it.said the gross person … Disappointed in humanity sigh…
