35 crypto companies got together to make a change dot org petition called “Bitcoin Deserves an Emoji”.

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    3 months ago

    I don’t mind there being an emoji for cryptocurrency. It’s a relevant thing in modern society whether we like it or not, so there’s no reason it should be excluded. But just not Bitcoin, specifically. Even though Bitcoin is the one that kicked off crypto, it’s still a brand name, which would result in auto-rejection according to the Unicode Consortium’s guidelines.

    If there was a more general-purpose icon/symbol that could represent cryptocurrency in general, that’d be more appropriate. But it can’t be Bitcoin.

  • lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Short reminder that Bitcoin was created as a reaction on the world finance crisis and to allow people like Assange to receive donations, because PayPal and similar just blocked them…

    That does not mean that Botcoin is perfect, but: If the alternative system was perfect, there was not bitcoin.

    Now, do we need an emoji? I don’t care TBH…

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      3 months ago

      I don’t mind a system like bitcoin existing but bitcoin itself has way too many problems to be useful and actually is detrimental to the environment. It takes way too long to process a transaction, it is massively energy intensive for what it is, and it’s been hyped up like the Californian gold Rush.

      Sure it was created to solve a problem but it doesn’t actually solve that problem very effectively. It also introduces an infinite number of new problems that no other currency system has ever experienced.

      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        It also introduces an infinite number of new problems that no other currency system has ever experienced.

        Infinite problems, eh? Can you name like 10?

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    3 months ago

    Cryptocurrency is speedrunning ruining everything. We might as well have a laugh at the cryptobros’ expense in the meantime.

    • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      I loved the concept at first, the idea of a decentralized currency all handled by encryption, and transactions permamently stored in a public ledger for all to see.

      Then the cryptobros and the scammers caught wind of it and it’s all downhill from there.

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        3 months ago

        If you want the name of a payment techology that isn’t snake oil, isn’t blockchain-based, isn’t a cult, doesn’t claim to be a currency, doesn’t work on proof-of-work or proof-of-stake, but actually does provide certain privacy guarantees for your basic purchasing needs, is cryptographically secure, and can be used with only FOSS, I recommend looking into GNU Taler.

        The only downside is that it’s not really supported anywhere at all yet. But I do hope it becomes a real thing some day.

        • index@sh.itjust.works
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          isn’t blockchain-based, doesn’t work on proof-of-work or proof-of-stake

          These things weren’t introduced as a gimmick they are used to solve specific problems.

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          Please describe how I can send the money to my mom in Russia (disconnected from SWIFT) with GNU Taler today. I’ll wait.

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            I don’t know how I could possibly have been more explicit about it not yet being ready for any real-world use cases than I was.

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              It will never be ready. It doesn’t even make sense. To transact with real fiat like the US dollar, you’ll have to go through an official on-ramp and an off-ramp of the respective government. And to do an international transaction you’ll have to use one of the widely accepted systems like SWIFT. GNU Taler doesn’t appear to address anything like that. Anyhow, my comment was made with the premise of this whole thread in mind, i.e. “Bitcoin is stupid” or “snake oil”. Yet there’s no alternatives to what crypto provides. So is it that stupid after all?

    • index@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      I would rather point my finger at wall street or financial institutions not at the tools that offers a viable option to avoid these

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    3 months ago

    This will likely be rejected for one the same reasons that they decided they would not add any new flag emojis. Flags come and go. Bitcoin hasn’t even been around for 20 years yet, and its future is highly uncertain.

    Also, considered as a currency, it would be better as a regular text character, not an emoji. Like $, €, ¥, £, etc.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      I actually don’t mind it being added as a text character because then I can actually use it. Using it as an emoji is useless to everyone other than the crypto bros that want to spam it on Twitter.

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      3 months ago

      There’s an emoji for nonbinary zombie🧟
      There’s an emoji for "I can’t get my map to fold back up"🗺️
      There’s even an emoji for a pregnant super Saiyan I think🫄🏼

      But there’s no emoji for riding two giraffes at the same time, so hieroglyphics still wins 𓀬

  • index@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Is the government spreading anti-cryptocurrency propaganda or did lemmy got invaded by idiots recently?

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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      Nah, idiots bring shitty crypto propaganda and pretend it isn’t just an unregulated security pretending to be an alternative currency (that isn’t usable as a currency for regular people) while using more energy than entire nations, all for a giggle with a shit coin.

      • index@sh.itjust.works
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        Are you sure you are not confusing propaganda with ads?

        Cryptocurrencies are quite easy to use, the process to create a cryptocurrency wallet is much easier than the procedure required to create a bank account or a credit card and these days cryptos are widely accepted even as a currency.

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          Are you sure you are not confusing propaganda with what crypto is actually used for?

          I don’t care how easy it is to set up a wallet. I cannot take my crypto and go down to the bodega and buy a sandwich. I can’t pay my rent with crypto. I can’t pay my utilities with crypto.

          Crypto is not a usable currency for the vast majority of people.

          • index@sh.itjust.works
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            Before the government enforced credit cards and made them mandatory it would have been really hard to buy a sandwich in bodega with a credit card too. Not sure where you live but these days in most places if you want you can literally pay with all sort of service, they have these big cash registers with the screen that accepts all soft of payment youtubers advertise for.

            Crypto is not a usable currency for the vast majority of people.

            There aren’t any limits that prevents the majority of people from creating a crypto wallet and using cryptocurrencies

            • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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              I don’t care how easy it is to set up a wallet. I cannot take my crypto and go down to the bodega and buy a sandwich. I can’t pay my rent with crypto. I can’t pay my utilities with crypto.

              There aren’t any limits that prevents the majority of people from creating a crypto wallet and using cryptocurrencies

              This is why people laugh at you cryptobros. I literally tell you why it’s not a usable currency and you tell me it totes is.

              Go back to speeding up climate change with your fake currency and stop trying to pretend normal people are using it to for anything other than unregulated securities trading.

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                Go back to speeding up climate change with your fake currency

                cryptocurrencies provides an open alternative to a centralized and rotten financial system that is at the core of consumerism and the speedrun of mankind into oblivion.

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                  You practically use the energy output of a nuclear reactor to process transactions. So I think you’re the ones pushing the expediation of the human races extinction. What’s worse is your been obnoxious while doing it.

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      No, people just don’t like crypto because it’s a huge waste of energy that has no use for the average person at the moment and is only used by rich people to get richer without much regulation. Don’t get me wrong, it might definitely be useful when used correctly in the future. Not wasting as much energy by ditching proof of work, becoming actually useful for normal transactions, etc. But right now it’s just an overhyped technology for obnoxious cryptobros.

      • index@sh.itjust.works
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        No, people just don’t like crypto because it’s a huge waste of energy that has no use for the average person

        This is actually part of government propaganda to discredit cryptocurrencies.

        Lemmy servers consume energy too and half of the content is memes, i don’t see anyone complaining about it.

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          You can’t begin to imagine just how much energy cryptocurrencies use. A web server can never come close.

          • index@sh.itjust.works
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            I’m sure meta or google energy usage is up there but i’ve yet to see someone complaining about mr.beast or cristiano ronaldo wasting energy with their videos.

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                or more like because the government doesn’t have problems with people keeping themself busy on entertainment vs them using a decentralized and open currency that can bypass financial institutions

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                  I’m pretty sure the government isn’t forcing people to watch YouTube and neither of the people you mentioned are government employees, unless you’re concocting some elaborate Alex Jones-level conspiracy theory.

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      3 months ago

      This is what the overwhelming majority of people believe. No offense, but were you spending a lot of time on r/Bitcoin?

      • index@sh.itjust.works
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        The majority of people believes what the government makes them believe, so it make sense.