• mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.world
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            Up to you. I subscribe to the Washington Post and Rolling Stone because I like being able to have journalism in the world that doesn’t rely on an ad-supported model.

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                Yes. This story about the Georgia Guidestones has all the hallmarks of being, not news, but pure propaganda. And, that’s why they had to kill Khashoggi. MBS was actually a secret agent for Bernie Sanders trying to stop all the propaganda the guy was creating for the Post and ultimately help the United States.

                Organizations are big and complex; they’re always made of people with their own individual motives, and a good enterprise with good journalistic intent can be owned by an evil man. I’ve seen maybe 2-3 stories in the Post which seemed to me like they had clear propagandistic intent, with all the rest pretty legit journalism which is rare for the US. I mean… I am actually paying money which is ultimately going to Bezos, so honestly maybe you’re right on that side that that’s worth worrying about. But it’s not a top-to-bottom evil enterprise like Amazon is.

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                  sure, there are always people pushing their own agenda, but the owner might have a bit of disproportional power in that regard to the other people there, and just because a few stories have fallen outside the range one finds believable doesn’t mean the rest is free of said propagandistic spin

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    Nothing quite like building a monument that actually helps people if/when apocalypse comes and society collapses, only for people to get super pissed off about it and bomb it.

    This is one reason why humans should go extinct if there is ever an apocalypse. We should just all succumb to the end of times because we clearly don’t deserve society if we’re destroying things that actively help when society collapses.

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    After hearing some of the things that may or may not have been on the monument, I’ll have to do more research into it to make a better judgement on whether destroying it was good or not.

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      Well the monument advocated for eugenics and was funded by some rich nut job so I’m kinda OK without it

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          The big dogs will take care of the little dogs,
          the medium dogs will take care of the big dogs,
          and the little dogs will take care of the medium dogs.

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          The dogs will hunt and eat the last of us that remain. As all good-boys did before selective breeding made them our pals.

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      I disagree with your assessment. The Guidestones weren’t there to help society rebuild after an apocalypse. It was built to scare you into thinking an unavoidable, likely human caused, cataclysm was coming. The builders clearly infused “bad human” into it’s message when they say to keep the population under 500 Million. It’s all part of the narrative to keep people chasing the cheese at all expenses. This creates ample opportunities for someone else to get rich off your fear. It’s similar to the gold rush. Who got rich in the gold rush? The merchants.

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    If the the creators were serious about the monument they’d have put it far away where extremists couldn’t easily bomb it. They should have been able to foresee the rise of reactionary forces as the collapse neared.

    Still, plenty of time to make another.

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      It has to be somewhere that is also accessible after an apocalypse. Where would you put this so it’s “far away where extremists couldn’t easily bomb it”, but where it’s also accessible after an apocalypse?

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        After a collapse there’d still be people nomading all over the place so they’ll find it eventually, just about anywhere. Near a place likely to be valuable for hunter-gatherers like a river mouth or lake. Or at a mountain pass where travelers will be funneled towards.

        Tibet? Central Australia? Mongolia? Canada? With the way climate change is going somewhere not too hot might be best. Tasmania, New Zealand, Finland, Iceland…

        Maybe the makers were on a budget and needed somewhere nearby. Or maybe they just wanted to make a point and have a laugh.

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          After collapse you don’t want people to “eventually” stumble upon them, you need them accessible so the knowledge on the stones can be used to rebuild and guide society.

          And if people will eventually stumble upon them, it’s waaaaay more likely to happen before the collapse, since any collapse would lead to the deaths of most people. You’re constructing an incredibly unlikely scenario that will only hinder efforts to rebuild.

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      “The inscription read: 1)Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2)Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity. 3)Unite humanity with a living new language. 4)Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason. 5)Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6)Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7)Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8)Balance personal rights with social duties. 9)Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite. 10)Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.”

      Half of them aren’t even clear like #8 which depends entirely on how much you value each. Maybe we should presuppose that our ideas are the best so we don’t poison future generations with our equivalents.of eugenics.

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      Will need to make a bunch of them rather than put them where extremists cant bomb them - after all they still need to be accessible after an apocalypse. Multiple redundancy, make them cheaper, maybe less durable, but get them in so many places that there will always be a few left around. Maybe task someone with knocking out mass produced reproductions and swapping them out whenever one gets wrecked

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      From my understanding, it was destroyed because people thought it was part of a satanic plot or some shit.

      Not the eugenics part.

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    did they ever catch the terrorists who bombed this?

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      In a state that’s highly conservative and the conservatives of the area campaigned to tear it down? The bomber is probably a local hero now, and might even drink free at the local police bar.

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        Osama Bin Laden had supporters and was a terrorist. Just because these guys have supporters doesn’t make them anything other than what they are: terrorists.

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        it’s interesting how the word terrorist isn’t applied to these people, don’t us think? it is what they are.