Is anyone, not virtue signalling, truly upset by this? It looks like a good, but small beginning of a purge long overdue.
Upset? No. More like a little uncomfortable. Partly because I’m an idealist who always hopes for the best and most moral and peaceful solutions. Partly because it makes me uncomfortable how little I am angered by this. Sure I absolutely do not want proles to go and kill the bourgeoisie… but I guess it’s not… I don’t feel the need to condemn this. Sometimes things are just… shrug
But it’s really just a little uncomfortable, like a sock not quite fitting my foot.
I am far FAR more uncomfortable with someone calling this the good but small beginning of an overdue purge.
Upset?
Yeah, a little. Not that he was killed, only that it was a pointless gesture that wasted an opportunity.
Pointless? Nah, the bourgeois probably needed a reminder of what can happen if they keep shafting people. Recon it won’t be long until the greens starts to remind them too that the climate clock still ticks.
Upset? Maybe his wife or kids. If someone that disgustingly anti-social is even capable of faking a marriage and being a “father”.
The quotes are from his estranged wife. So he hasn’t held together a marriage.
I can just assume it was about money. Who else would marry such a disgusting human being? …if she was not as equally disgusting though. I really don’t know and not sure I do want to.
I mean how ya gonna marry someone when you know every time you have to go to the hospital theres a 32% chance your husband allows you to just die so he can save 1000$
You probably could if you’d see this as a great buisiness-idea. Save thousand moneyz for only givimg up one life you don’t even know. To many this obviously seems great.
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You can’t spell murder without laughter.
You’re thinking manslaughter
LMAO
The lack of the joker’s line disturbs me.
The problem is that now the rest of them will fortress up making it much harder.
That’s 50/50. At some point a guard will say it’s not worth it.
But this will cost them. Make it so expensive that they won’t gain anything.
Just as a comment, not a suggestion: a society that squeezes its people has to either repress them hard, or at some point expect it to start boiling over. The mob lynching the leaders is what happens once the mob gets desperate enough and are not heard.
And said repression often is one of the last straws before the people reach boiling point. :)
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How hated must you be when suddenly leftists, tankies, fascists, conservatives and liberals find themselves in quiet agreement about their feelings on your murder. Even the silence from gun control advocates is deafening.
It’s the thing the people who are CEOs don’t want us to think about. It’s not leftists, tankies, fascists, conservatives against each other. It’s them against everyone else.
To be fair, this isn’t really a “gun control” type situation. A single, targeted, killing, would have been just a successful if it were done with a knife instead. The gun control arguments are more applicable to spree killings.
I mean, the guy would have been able to write their whole message on one knife rather than needing three bullet casings to get it across.
So I guess environmentalists and the metal industry (Big Metal?) would probably care a bit?
Absolutely not. We simply have to deal with those killing sprees and just feel bad when it happens because the alternative is the state doing the killing sprees and nobody having any answer.
I’m confused. Are you saying that the gravy seals have any hint of a chance against the US army?
There’s nothing quiet about the agreement on Lemmy over this.
The quiet part is the agreement with others you completely disagree with almost always, and even often despise.
That’s why the ruling class pushes all the wedge issues and divisiveness they do. If we could talk to each other, we’d find we had more in common than otherwise expected. I thought the recent surge in union activity could have continued to a general strike across the nation. The rich know what unites us and actively seems to keep us fractured so we don’t realize our combined power.
Maybe this dude will be a catalyst in a revolution that sets these disgusting, wealthy leeches in their place.
Maybe this dude will be a catalyst in a revolution that sets these disgusting, wealthy leeches in their place.
Even if this isn’t the one, the accelerated pace at which we’re having moments that might should scare the oligarchs
Everyone has been feeling the pressure of “something is about to happen” for the better part of a decade. That pressure has to vent somewhere.
Kind of seems like there’s no war but the class war.
The few precious moments of shared class consciousness.
Did…did the good guy with a gun finally show up?
He’s got milk and cigarettes for everyone!
“Quiet”?
find themselves in quiet agreement
Nothing quiet about it.
Really puts me in the Christmas spirit
Thank you for the giggle kind stranger.
I feel for his family and loved ones. I’m not celebrating his death. I’m just not surprised by it.
I feel for the people who loved him. Not convinced he loved anyone but himself though
Well put.
As cruel as it is, I can’t help but make the joke
Thoughts and prayers.
God was like: This guy has done enough
I’m celebrating it.
Are they going to donate all of his ill-gotten gains to a healthcare charity?
On a personal level, yeah it’s got to be a shock. On the other hand they profited off of the suffering of others. My empathy is limited.
Right. The situation could directly correlate. The guy responsible for limiting access to physical and mental healthcare for millions was shot and killed in a premeditated murder. He’s fucking with millions of physically and mentally ill people. Granted, this is the most extreme repercussion for his actions, but it’s not like he’s some random CEO.
He didn’t suffer as much as the pain he’s inflicted upon others. He also didn’t bankrupt his family in the process.
I can’t say this is the way I want society to run … but quite frankly I think we’re all sick of pretending that killing someone with a pen is any different than killing someone with a gun.
I think we’re all sick of pretending that killing someone with a pen is any different than killing someone with a gun.
Preach
Limited empathy is totally fine. Cheering for assassinations is a different thing ( not saying you did).
I wish the systems this dude profited from were changed. This guy will just be replaced, and the next one will have a security detail ($$$)
I dunno, I think this might really rattle a few people. It’s one thing to talk about social consequences like not being invited to garden parties or whatever, another entirely to be potentially killed.
I hope it does.
I feel bad for his kids, seeing the country laugh and cheer at their father’s death.
He still earned it, though. Hopefully this inspires them not to follow in his footsteps.
I feel bad for his kids, seeing the country laugh and cheer at their father’s death.
Yeah, well, maybe they’ll learn something from it and not go on to be horrible people themselves.
I would be very scared to be the kid of a guy who was assassinated. You know they are the next target.
There’s no reason to think that his children would be targeted.
There is ever reason to assume the kids would not be Targeted? Killing one person may not satisfy everyone.
If the gunman was angry about healthcare, there is absolutely no reason that he would go for the children after killing the father.
There’s no logic to it.
There is no logic to rage
I doubt they lost any sleep knowing their dad killed thousands by denying them coverage. Why would i lose sleep for them? Hell, they are probably looking at a juicy life insurance payout, which is more than any of us will get when United kills our loved ones.
I don’t know but mabe his life insurance will deny it, given he had the pre-condition of being a shitbag CEO.
They should be fair to him, and roll percentile dice. If it rolls below a 33, the claim gets denied. You know, like UHC does with their “customers”
Do I think it’s funny?
No, it’s just… interesting:
Hey look, karma
Yes.
Yeah well Brian can get fucked.
Not anymore he can’t.
Well not…in a traditional sense…
You just have to exhume his worthless corpse first.
This is what a patriot looks like.
The only person in the while country using the second amendment correctly (successfully, anyway)
I appreciate the sentiment, but there’s a while cult of people dedicated to using it correctly that you never hear of because they never shoot anyone.
Eh, going off solo and only taking out a single target is not exactly a wave of citizens applying their rights.
Now, if this solo guy keeps going and only targets similar people, then we’ve got a solid case that the goal is actually to fight tyranny and exert the will of the people.
One CEO down is murder. A hundred is a movement. All of them is revolution.
Yeah, people actually doing what the second amendment was explicitly written to allow them to do looks like, uhhh… January 6, 2021.
Well, yeah.
Just because they were idiots, with the goal of putting an even bigger idiot on a throne doesn’t mean they didn’t have a right to revolution.
Thing is, a failed revolution, insurrection, or coup has a different name: treason.
It’s not a game. You either take action and succeed, or you’re a criminal. Doesn’t matter who’s in charge, what the political landscape is, what the principles being fought for are. You fail, you’re fucked.
We don’t have to like the January 6th morons, or the core individuals that used the bigger crowd as cover for the actual attempted coup and killings. But the 2nd is, in part, about the populace having the means you overthrow, resist, or otherwise exert their ownership of their own nation. I’m glad they failed, but I don’t object to them exerting a core human right.
But they also have to understand that they failed, and that (barring trump pulling some pardons out of his ass) they’ll have to do the time if/when convicted.
Had they succeeded, they’d be heroes to their supporters, and the rest of us would have had to decide whether or not to take similar steps, whether or not to take up arms and retake the nation.
Not an American here so, asking for clarification, but isn’t the 2nd Amendment purely and solely about the right to organize into militias and not about what such militias are for? So, it guarantees you can have your gun but not that you can just up and use it to upend Human Rights because “lol someone wrote it in 1776”?
Nah, that’s a pretty common misconception.
A militia is an army of the people. In order to be that army, the people must be armed.
When you go back and look at everything else documented at the time of the framing of the constitution, and later the bill of rights, a huge portion of the 2nd was specifically about making sure that an unjust government could be taken down by the populace. It wasn’t the only reason, but it was a big one.
Remember, these were a bunch of British subjects overthrowing their legal ruler and claiming self governance.
There is a fundamental concept that all power is vested in the people, and anything that stands against that is subject to revolt.
That’s a core human right. It is not one to be used lightly, but it is fundamental to the whole country as it is directly enumerated in the bill of rights, second only to the three core freedoms that are/were considered big enough to list first.
There is debate about what is called the individual mandate, but if you go back to the concepts the framers discussed, and the way they overturned British rule, it kinda stops making sense to say it wasn’t an individual mandate. Most of the arguments made against it are completely misrepresenting what militia and (more importantly) “well regulated” mean.
See, a revolution isn’t an upending of human rights, it’s the ultimate expression of one of them. Access to arms (it isn’t just guns, at all) is necessary for people to express a right to self governance in the face of an established government. In theory, any arms would be allowed, but once you get beyond man portable weaponry, you run into enough resistance that trying to argue for that is pointless.
Besides, one of the first steps in any sustained revolution is seizing the arms of the rulers, so (again in theory) having arms sufficient to take police and/or national guard level armories, that’s good enough. So it isn’t worth trying to fight for things to be expanded when there’s already a fight to just keep things as they are regarding firearm access in specific.
The language has shifted over two plus centuries, in other words. Militia isn’t a big, organized thing at all, or it wasn’t then. It was a group of the people called up, or self organizing, to take action as needed. At the time, a standing army was (among some of the founders) something to be prevented. The term wel regulated would have meant more well supplied, maybe well trained or ready, depending on who you ask. Which in turn means that the 2nd is primarily about every person being armed and ready if needed, so that all that was necessary is the need being known.
There’s a meme about the idea that goes “something, something, tree of liberty needs watering”. It refers to something said by Thomas Jefferson, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” Which is an out of context statement that comes from a Letter he wrote, which is excerpted in that link, and which links to the full letter in turn.
The states were built on the blood of tyrants and patriots. It’s too dear to the core ethos of us, the descendants of those that shed that blood to ever be totally erased.
The more-or-less stated goal of the second amendment is that the people have the tools needed to overthrow the government if they need to.
Finally, some American (I assume here he is) shows they know how to use a gun!
Now, where was he for the Olympics…
(hopefully, training for this masterful moment)
Hi-larious
