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    Finally? He’s already been impeached. Twice.

    The next step would be to have him removed from office, but that requires a 2/3 majority of the Senate to agree on it.

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      Yeah, but saying impeached and convicted in the senate just doesnt have the same sting. It is what I mean so, yeah, I dont know. You’re 100% correct.

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        For lying about a blowjob that wasn’t anybody else’s business in the first place. Such a terrible crime.

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          Eh, she was his subordinate, so I would say it was our business.

          However, not nearly warranting impeachment.

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          Perjury. Lying under oath to the American people. It might have been a stupid thing to have to lie about but it was still a crime.

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            True, but it was also completely unrelated to any actions as part of the duties of his office. The entire investigation into the affair was because the Republicans found nothing illegal. There’s a reason Trump kept referring to his investigations as a witch hunt, because that’s exactly what the Republicans did with Clinton, and to this day they still keep trying to equate a personal affair with treason as much as possible so idiots won’t actually think about how fucking ridiculous that comparison actually is.

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        Nothing but total anarchical chaos will be good enough, there are plenty of people here who would cause genocide if they were in control.

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    That he hadn’t been impeached and convicted proves that America’s constitution is now a failure. The founding fathers tried and did okay for ~250 years, but the document does not work anymore.

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      The document is only as good as the people elected to execute on it.

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        Yeah, in the end of relies on good faith across all branches, which is obviously not where the US is right now. Mostly because representatives are isolated from their constituency as opposed to initially where you would have to actually deal with the people in your district.

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          A large portion of that has to do with Congress limiting their size back in 1929. It turned the House into a second Senate, undermining its purpose. Without that limit Congress would actually represent constituents because the divisions would actually be small enough to effectively do so. Instead we have districts representing millions of people and others representing just a hundred thousand but with the same voting power. The House no longer represents the population and hasn’t for nearly 100 years.

          The Supreme Court should have been expanded as the federal judicial circuits did. There should be a Justice overseeing each federal circuit, of which there are 12 now. The precedent was set in 1807 when they added a 7th justice to match the new 7th circuit, and 1837 when it expanded to 9 for the new 8th and 9th circuits, and 1863 expanded to 10 for the 10th circuit. They retracted to 7 in 1866 to limit Andrew Johnson and then back to 9 in 1869 after Johnson was out of office. And it has sat there ever since. That clearly was not intended to be the case, but here we are.

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            Instead we have districts representing millions of people and others representing just a hundred thousand but with the same voting power.

            That is not actually true. There is no congressional district with even one million people, let alone “millions”. There is no congressional district with “just a hundred thousand”.

            • The current largest, Delaware-at-large, has 989,948 people.

            • The current smallest, Rhode Island 1st, has 545,085.

            That is the maximum variation. It is due to Delaware being not quite big enough to warrant two districts, and Rhode Island being just barely large enough to warrant a second. Delaware is underrepresented, Rhode Island over.

            Due to the fundamental concept of districting, the outlier districts, both large and small, will always be in 1 and 2 district states. Districts in larger states will always be divided more fairly than the smallest states.

            The Supreme Court should have been expanded as the federal judicial circuits did. There should be a Justice overseeing each federal circuit, of which there are 12 now.

            I think we should appoint one new justice at the end of the first and third years of each presidential term, to keep appointments as far away from the presidential and midterm elections as possible. Add a new seat every other year, and never refill a vacated seat.

            Allow the size of the court to fluctuate. Allow single-seat swings, instead of expecting justices to time their retirements for when a favorable president is in office, or risking two-seat swings when an unfavorable president replaces an unexpected vacancy.

            The average tenure of the court is currently 16 years, which would give us 8 justices. But, strategic retirement is artificially reducing the expected term, so terms would likely be much longer.

            The longest tenure was 34 years, which would give us 17 justices. The typical size of the court would likely fluctuate between 10 and 14.

            I would include one more factor, to reduce the effect of Senate intransigence. Every circuit court judge has been previously confirmed by the Senate. The president would obviously prefer to nominate the youngest justice they can find to SCOTUS, but if the Senate decides to play games and refuses to confirm, the circuit court justices represent a small pool of pre-confirmed candidates that can be nominated without additional confirmation.

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    Trump has destroyed the standing of the presidency. Congress has destroyed the impact of impeachment.

    Nothing comes from this shit

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    Fuck Trump to hell and back but impeaching Trump alone will not improve the lives of anyone. Congress is full of absolute pieces of human trash that want to make your life a lot harder and less worthwhile just because fuck you that’s why. They think suffering brings people closer to God. Putting a different maga republican in the white house will change nothing. Do we hate Trump for his policies or do we hate Trump personally? I hate all republicans for the backwards and harmful policies they force on us all. They will roll back everything to exactly as it was in 1945 regardless of if Trump is around for it or not.

    They’d have to do a LOT MORE than removing Trump or even the entire White House before anything meaningful improves for the average person.

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    Seriously though, bombing Iran has been a multi-generaltional bi-partisan wet dream since the bombs stopped dropping in WWII. Nobody is impeaching him for this - like two weeks ago Schumer was goading him for ‘being weak’ for negotiating with ‘the terrorist nation of Iran’. There might be 5 people in total in congress who oppose a war with Iran.

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    Cool. They impeach him, the Senate barely takes it seriously, we move on.

    I am not saying we shouldn’t impeach him, I am saying, don’t expect anything to come from it .

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    Sure but they actually have to remove the Cheeto stained TACO from office for it to mean anything at this point.

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      Hmm. No. Impeachment(with conviction) is the the shock collar wrapped tightly around trumps balls as enshrined by the supreme court.

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    Congress? You dumb American fucks should all be out on the streets to shut your country down in protest.

    Instead, you’d rather continue living a nice comfortable life because you all know that you will be the last ones to have to face any threat of war when the world starts tearing itself apart.

    Eat shit you dumb fucks … the rest of the world is going to burn and fall apart all because none of you wanted to lift a finger to stop it.

    As far as I’m concerned I fucking hate America now … I’m Canadian and I’m pissed at my southern neighbours. It’s like having a trailer trash neighbour who just fire bombed someone across town and just doesn’t give a shit about what they did because no one is going to do anything about it.

    America can go fuck itself … I have no respect for any of you because you’re leading us down a deadly path and all of you are just sitting on your ass hoping that this will resolve itself without your participation … you dumb lazy fucks.

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      Hey you are welcome to come on down here and lead the revolution buddy, you don’t have a job or family right? So you can just protest 24/7 and if you die you have no one who needs you? We just had one of the largest protest in US history, you want a civil war? Cause it is probably gonna happen and guess what you Canadians are gonna get involved in our shit so I hope I see your ass on the front line.

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      Not sure if you’ve noticed buddy but your country is following the US down the far right rabbit hole very quickly.

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      Yeah, you can try that way. You’ll get downvotes for sure but it beats trying to be super clever so that the insults are lost on the people who it needs to sting.

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      America can go fuck itself … I have no respect for any of you because you’re leading us down a deadly path

      If you don’t like where we are leading, why the fuck are you following?

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      Your concern is the world burning, so you prefer to stand idly by and allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons? World destroying bombs in the hands of people who routinely encourage and celebrate martyrdom, going so far as to use their own children as weapons and human shields?

      Go ahead, take over with your country! If you can’t manage to, you understand how helpless the average American is to change any of this.

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        World destroying bombs in the hands of people who routinely encourage and celebrate martyrdom, going so far as to use their own children as weapons and human shields?

        You mixed up your Zionist racist propaganda, that one’s Palestine.

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          I didn’t believe that Hamas, Al Qaeda, and ISIS were exclusively from Palestine. It’s not racist to say many otherwise good Muslims are complicit in terrorist atrocities the way many otherwise good Christians are complicit in conversion therapy and bombed abortion clinics.

          Fewer nukes are a good thing, especially when taken out of the hands of governments whose state religion routinely gives itself over to the worst possible version of itself.

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            I didn’t believe that Hamas, Al Qaeda, and ISIS were exclusively from Palestine

            The heck? Of these only Hamas is Palestinian. ISIS is Iraqi and Al Qaeda is too international to be pinned down to a particular country. However, what none of these are is Iranian; these are all Sunni organizations while Iran is Shia.

            It’s not racist to say many otherwise good Muslims are complicit in terrorist atrocities

            It’s racist to imply all Muslims (or even Palestinians) are “people who routinely encourage and celebrate martyrdom, going so far as to use their own children as weapons and human shields.”