you think cuomo will split the vote for zohran? he’s probably gonna screw over eric adams by running independent
Haha I wondered how they would try to stop Mamdani becoming mayor.
It’s insane to me they would rather split the vote and put one of Trump’s puppets in office rather than move their platform slightly left of center.
And after Mamdani hired one of the DNC’s consultants to
nerf all his policiesappeal to the centrists who have thus far refused to endorse him.It’s almost as though the centrist wing of the party does absolutely nothing in good faith and will do everything they can to ratfuck anyone to their left.
I’m not sure this is party desperation so much as it is Cuomo’s ego. I’d call it 75% ego at least.
That’d be blaming the one bad egg, not the the institutions. Neoliberals will ally themselves with fascists to fight socialists. But I guess it’s possible. Also good strategy, blame the rogue politician instead of their moral bankruptcy.
DNC normally "3rd parties don’t function in our two party system, there’s no point in voting for them
DNC after losing their own primary: 3rd party it is
DNC normally "3rd parties don’t function in our two party system, there’s no point in voting for them
That part is just reality.
That’s why they sued to keep De La Cruz off the ballot in swing states.
“Vote Blue No Matter Who” reverts to “Party Unity My Ass” as soon as centrists don’t get 100% of everything they want.
What a goddamn pussy
The Democratic Party WILL rig the general election. Hell, they’ll probably work with Republicans to get their candidate in over Mamdani.
Who owns the machines? Is the software audited? Are there tabulation servers involved?
Republican
both cumuo and ADAMS is doing it for the gop.
I don’t know if they’ll rig the actual vote directly but the DNC will most certainly spend hundreds of millions to make him look like the devil incarnate leading up to the election even if it means getting a Republican in office. They already did this in 2016 and 2024.
In all the times I’ve posted these questions, nobody has ever answered them.
New York State Board of Elections
Probably because it’s just posted on a .gov site.
What an absolute chode
Don’t you mean taint?
Gooch.
If Mamdani holds out until November, the rest of the country will see that it is possible to vote for a fair shake. If he gets buried, I think voting will be the least of our worries.
Remember kids: Vote blue no matter who only applies to progressives.
Want to run a campaign against the duly nominated candidate?
Only if you’re a neoliberal sex pest. Otherwise you want republicans to win.
You think the DNC is pushing this? Or is this just throwing shit to throw shit?
Vote blue still applies here. I don’t know who told you it doesn’t.
Well, let’s see what happens. If the Democratic establishment pushes Mamdani hard, this will be true.
The person you’re replying to is just used to the establishment fighting against progressive insurgents.
You think the DNC is pushing this?
I think they’re going to be more open about doing so as the election approaches.
Vote blue still applies here.
Progressives step aside when centrists win the primaries that the party went to court for the right to rig.
the party went to court for the right to rig.
Not a fair interpretation of an argument made by a single DNC lawyer in a single context. Also, the primary is over and Mamdani won.
Not a fair interpretation of an argument made by a single DNC lawyer in a single context.
A completely accurate representation, made by a lawyer representing the party and setting precedent they have taken advantage of ever since.
Also, the primary is over and Mamdani won.
I’m not sorry that the party’s machinations against the left fail sometimes.
For a second I had this confused with the Toronto mayoral election, where the former sex pest mayor is rumored to be considering re-running against the person who supplanted him last election
It also reminds me of the incumbent NDP ridings we lost to the cons because liberal voters don’t do strategic voting, yet they expect progressives to.
Vote progressive, the platform is impressive. The people aren’t oppressive and their art is more expressive - their passion is expressive but the message isn’t agressive.
For the people needs to be accomplished By the people.
Thank you Robin Williams Batty.
There is exactly 0 comparison more honorable.
It has to feel so good voting against this total fuckwit twice in one election. /jealous
Won’t work. Democrats are like any other voting group: they stick with their party, no matter the majority candidate. Because losing to the enemy is worse than losing to an infra-party faction. This is how Trump got elected twice. It’ll happen again, because people are predictable.
Not true, unfortunately. In Buffalo, NY, traitor Byron Brown ran and won as a write in candidate after losing the Democratic mayoral primary to India Walton.
He’s just hoping that enough people vote for him that it’ll split the vote and that Adams will win. They’re liberals, they’d rather literal fascists win than leftists.
Even by running DNC is dumping their war chest on this fight. If Mamdani loses or fucks up, those are less funds in the DNC coffers and IMO draining those idiots of every cent is a valuable goal.
is any republican even campaigining, either one will try to give each other win, adams is clearly a republican.
If the market doesn’t agree with a democratic victory centrists won’t abandon the market, they will abandon victory.
The Jill Stein approach then…
No, I’m not that pessimistic. Their allegiance is to party loyalty, not an opposing political viewpoint like facism. The guy’s a true believer, and his intent isn’t to sabotage to Democratic Party but to reform it. I don’t agree with all of his positions, but I like him better than Cuomo right now. The real issue is that Cuomo isn’t a right-wing Nazi like the Far-Left want you to believe. Maintain your centricity and don’t get played into viewing things the way the media outlets and political parties want you to see them.
The real issue is that Cuomo isn’t a right-wing Nazi
He’s trying to split the vote as a spoiler candidate to allow the NAZI party win. Which makes him a NAZI collaborator.
No, he’s trying to win for his own ambition of power. Calling him a Nazi collaborator for that is idiotic. Just because what he’s doing helps Nazis doesn’t make him a collaborator. Grow the fuck up.
Sure is neat how voting third party suddenly isn’t collaboration.
Sure is neat how your argument has no relevance.
Anyone with the slightest criticism of biden or harris last year was called a trump supporter.
All the people that had criticized the “vote blue no matter who” line of the centrists as being destructive in the long run, especially as people here started touting completely deranged things along the line of “Yeah both Harris and Trump want a genocide, but Harris will make less bad of a genocide than Trump, so we should vote her.”, are now having the “told you so” moment.
The entire talk in the general election was nothing but gaslighting the voters who refused to vote for genocide. The entire claim of “party loyalty” and “change through the party is possible” was a set of lies peddled by the “centrists” that rather want a fascist win than a modest social democrat, who wants to observe basic laws of the US and basic international laws. Now that this “loyalty” goes the other way, the centrists just flipped the script, proving that none of their claims were serious to begin with.
This is relevant, as it proves that the Democratic party is not the vehicle through which to bring positive change, at least not until all the DNC ghouls are kicked out of the party, publicly shamed and stripped of any political influence. Maybe Mamdani is a step in that direction, but we see how the DNC ghouls are already fighting back, as they have one goal and one goal only. To help the oligarchy exploit the people.
If he knows what he is doing cannot possibly lead to his own success, splitting the blue vote can’t lead to him winning, then he is deliberately trying to put the nazis in power over his citizens knowing some of them will be harmed. He’s absolutely a collaborator.
I’m sure he thinks he can win. But even if he didn’t, that doesn’t make him a collaborator. You misunderstand the term. It requires intent. You’re just trying to stack the deck by polarizing it. And I’m sure you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s just that your willful ignorance about the semantics of the term you’re using is harmful. Casting Cuomo as a Nazi gains you nothing but self-righteous purpose. Your cause isn’t righteous, no more than any other cause. You’re just an ideologue of a particular stripe. Have fun being that. From what I hear, it’s a lonely existence.
That’s not how it played out in Buffalo NY in their last mayoral election. A socialist won the primary and the Democratic party launched a massive write-in campaign to keep their preferred liberal “Byron Brown” in power, to the point they were handing out stamps at voting locations so that they could be used to easily “write” him. They succeeded in keeping the socialist candidate out, and despite winning, their liberal candidate ended up resigning mid-term to take a cushy C-suite job instead.
Clearly Cuomo’s loyalty is not to party because if it was he wouldn’t still be running. I also don’t believe Cuomo believes in anything but himself and his own advantage and the advantage of his big donors. However I’m not saying Cuomo is a far right Nazi. I’m just saying he’d rather a far right Nazi win than a leftist. Though arguably that would imply…
However I’d like to ask you to keep the personal insults to a minimum.
hes only running because the DNC saw madami was running and gaining in popularity.
This is the same Cuomo who appointed two republican judges as a f.u. to the Democratic party for pushing him out for his many crimes
Oh. So you mean they will vote for the democrat candidate Mamdani…… right? Right?
Yes, or just not vote at all.
And just like that, not voting became acceptable. Sure is neat what having a progressive nominee will do.
Progressives vote more as a voting block than conservatives do. Oh, were you hoping that would be a sick burn?
And you’re advocating for not voting because a progressive won the nomination.
It doubly won’t work since isn’t Eric Adams doing the same thing? Two establishment politicians running as independents?
The general election won’t have ranked choice. Adams and Cuomo may end up splitting the “willing to vote for corrupt dirtbag” ticket and let Mamdani cruise to victory.
We can dream.
I expect one or the other will get pressured/bribed into dropping out.
Yes, that’s probably correct. It’ll be late in the race, because both of them are pig headed and want the other one to do it. That will only drag down whomever does end up staying in. It’ll be a glorious game of political chicken. I’m ordering all the popcorn now.
I thought the donors were going to pick one and push out the other, but web search indicates that hasn’t been successful yet. We’ll see.
They fight amongst themselves, too.
They’re all sociopaths. You can use that fact to predict how they function.
Yep, two shit bag neoliberals running I and an actual Republican.
This is both good for Mamdani and what will be used as an excuse when he wins.
Is the Republican even relevant in NYC this election? I saw this as Lieberman for Connecticut redux.
yes they have won NYC elections in the past, nyc has a habit of choosing a republican, or Democrat that works with republicans.
The Republican is the Guardian Angels guy from the 80s, he’s probably not relevant outside of Staten Island, and a few old cat ladies.
Careful. He has huge name recognition.
Not necessarily for good reasons, though. Particularly over the last decade or so.
He doesn’t even have the “just woke up from a 40-year coma” vote sewn up, since there’s a Cuomo running…
If there’s 3 “Democrats” running, he might be.
May it be so.
These fuckers are so obsessed with power and pushing their “vision” that they refuse to let go, step aside,or support the younger generations coming up that ha e a very different view on the world and how it should be. Get these geriatric fucks out of office and let’s move into the 21st century.
They’re preventing the change that’s actually going to allow the left win elections again. It’s pretty obvious that the Democratic Tea Party moment is starting. Who’s knows what this will be called years from now, but it’s starting. They learned nothing from what the party did to Bernie Sanders.
He knows he can’t win. He can only split the vote, and he’s gonna do it anyway.
They learned nothing from what the party did to Bernie Sanders.
They learned that they’re ok with losing to republicans as long as progressives are shut out.
I still don’t understand how this is supposed to work even in principle. Clearly the sort of people who voted in the primary prefer Mamdani by a wide margin. Is Cuomo expecting to be elected by people who didn’t care enough to vote in the primary but do care enough to vote for him despite the fact that he’s not the Democratic candidate? Does he think that there are more people like that than there are people who voted for him in the primary but will vote for Mamdani in the general election?
Clearly the sort of people who voted in the primary prefer Mamdani by a wide margin.
Yes, but party leadership prefers the sex pest cuomo or the corrupt adams or even the dipshit fascist sliwa to any progressive.
He’s there to ensure that true left policies are strangled in the crib.
nyc primaries have terrible voter turnout, somewhere between 20-30% of registered dem voters in the city. Mamdani did get a record number of voters out to the polls but Cuomo’s camp is thinking they can reinvigorate the other 70% of dems who sat this primary out. So yes, Cuomo is banking on this but I hope his highly paid pol consultants are very wrong.
You could be right. Corbyn in the UK had a HUGE swell of support with record numbers of people joining the Labour Party just before its leadership election just to vote for him. Didn’t translate to votes when the general election came around.
Thanks to a concerted media campaign against him, involving a lot of people from the labour party that wanted to ensure Neoliberalism to continue uninterruptedly. The parallels are remarkably close.
Corbyn won more votes than Kier Starmer did. It was the complete collapse of the Tory vote that let Starmer win a landslide.
“Vote blue no matter who” for me but not for thee
Democrats think we vote for them because we like them
Yep, this is one thing we have because of this set of events… there is no excuse now not to primary establishment democrats nor is there any reason to vote blue no matter who… and the corporate establishment democrats are shitting their pants
At this point democratic leadership could come out in favor of Mamdani the destroyer and it would only lose him votes. I hope
I hope
