How did they not mention the ‘hack’ here?
Finally i have a way to explain my feeling about this. This is just yelp for people. Yet another attempt to rate people. Didn’t Candance owebs try to make something like this years ago but for reporting racists?
So I’ve had multiple GF’s who were physically abusive, cheaters, chronic liars, gaslighters… so is there a version of this for me? Or are men never victims still?
So glad this didn’t exist like ~15 years ago. My one ex, who decided to start a relationship with her co-worker, while we were looking for and then financing a house… When I broke up with her (like 1 week after closing), while I was trying to process the betrayal, she took to Facebook and text messages spamming EVERYONE a fake story about me, trying to pass herself as the victim. Even including a fake pregnancy! All to make me look bad because I caught her cheating. Thankfully, this app didn’t exist, and several of my female friends reached out to me for my side of the story.
But all the “stories” on that app, 100% vetted, right? We get unbiased, both sides of the story, right… Evidence was required… right? Because imaging the harm someone could do if they were just petty, or scornful, of just bored. It’s not like women have ever made false rape claims… right…
I’m not trying to imply my situation is what all men go through… but you can’t just dismiss it, or other men, because it doesn’t fit into your social media-fueled narrative. Yes, some men suck (and that’s selling it short). But, women are just as capable of the same level of suck. We are all, after all, human.
To answer your question, there have been apps like this for men… but they keep getting taken down after users start posting revenge porn.
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I also have been attacked by an ex.
I can see both sides - if it’s an app about suffering abuse, all should be welcome vs there aren’t enough women-only spaces online and those that exist are frequently brigaded.
Both have reasonable arguments. Likely a compromise where a filter could be set where you can choose to opt your posts into the women-only feed.
However, my argument would be this app is bad and no one should be on it. Even if all the content is true, a gossip app that covers legally questionable things is likely not a sensible place to hang around.
People suck, hopefully you were able to take her to court for defamation because what she did is almost the definition of libel where I live (Maryland, US).
People who pretend to be victims upset me almost as much as people who victimize others (they are not equal, but it is still so fucked up). Victims have a rough enough time already being taken seriously. It doesn’t take more than a few false positives to completely take the air out of legitimate accusations from victims. I wish there was some way to solve this problem.
Generally yes but it’s not nearly always so clear cut that one is 100% the offender and the other one 0%. Which is why attention to details, context, sophistication, listening to both sides before coming to a conclusion, etc. Is so important. But guess what kind of things get lost when taking part in such a one-sided blame game on the semi-anonymous internet.
Apps like this but also social media more generally allow for one-sided public naming and shaming of Individuals who probably don’t even know about it. It’s problematic because it can be deeply unfair.
I get that there is also value in women protecting themselves against predators but more than likely most content within the app/service is probably one-sided public blaming and gossiping.
And as we all know from right-wing propaganda, being the first to make a bold claim public and generate headlines with it is very powerful and spreads the message far and wide, whether true or false, and many will just believe it’s true without further investigation.
I don’t know why they upset you “almost as much” - people who pretend to be victims are in fact people that are victimizing others. “Other sides” notwithstanding, you said it yourself in so many words: they’re also further victimizing actual victims.
I frankly find it more inexcusable.
For me, it’s hard to say one or the other is worse. It might depend on circumstances. Is someone making a false claim of rape worse than someone raping someone, or worse than a child rapist, serial rapist, etc? In damage collectively done to all victims, quite possibly. However, the intention of the false witness isn’t usually to delegitimize the claims of other victims. It’s usually shortsited and desperate - a desire to avoid social consequences or to punish the accused. I suspect such false claims are also more common among a younger, naive, immature population. It’s fucked up and selfish, surely. As fucked up as feeling you have the right to use another person’s body for your own physical pleasure or to assert dominance or whatever shit goes through a rapists mind? I don’t know.
Frankly, I’ve never been the victim or perpetrator of either crime, nor have I even been in a situation where either crossed my mind. All I’m qualified to say is that I wish neither crimes would happen to anyone.
Inb4 “found the bear”
Is this what lemmy is about?
There is a video in the article, where a a woman says “are we dating the same guy?”. Like women don’t date multiple men.
Apart form that, things never say secret, soon or later will come out.
How is this not a stalking app?
Because women cant men. /S
Back in the Google Glass days, I theorized that it wouldn’t be long before you could look at a person walking down the street and near instantaneously have a full profile of that individual, their age and address and family and everything, with Yelp-style reviews commenting on how the subject is a huge dick, or has a huge dick, or kicks puppies, etc. “Free”, of course, encumbered only by ads for bullshit dating services, and with just the minor inconvenience of full access to every goddamn piece of data on your phone.
I am only surprised that this kinda shit hasn’t happened much much earlier.
I think some student used AI along with the Meta sunglasses with cameras to do exactly this and it’s creepy how much info about you is just out there
There is, unsurprisingly, a Black Mirror episode about this.
“★★☆☆☆ Not a meaningful encounter”
Imagine if the genders were swapped in this situation
Or if this was targeted at virtually any other category of people
Yeah, my thoughts were having people encouraged to add on information they know on top of public information is a gold mine for governments. Someone could opt out of social media and not even have a phone or computer, but now you could have citizens themselves creating profiles on their behalf and providing information on individuals like political leanings. People are just thinking dating because that is what the site is about.
But, my thoughts went to how a site could do the same for whether someone is legal or not, whether they are pro government or not, etc.
Oh god rate my maid.
Tea just suffered a massive data leak
Gotta be a special type fuckbrain to give this app a photo and a copy of your gotdamn ID.
Yeah that’s what the article is about
This is fucked up.
Kinda wild that app stores allow something like that. I wonder how long it’ll take for someone to build the same up, but with the roles reversed: Men anonymously talking about local women 😬
Android users report the app here: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid#zippy=%2Cflag-an-app-on-google-play
honestly I doubt it’ll do anything but it can’t hurt to try
In theory it should be fine the problem is women always assume bad intent on the part of men, and good intent on the part of other women despite a fairly obvious fact that that’s ridiculous.
The problem is there doesn’t seem to be any system in place for review or correction. What if there someone who just doesn’t like me and posts photos and lies about me? Not only would I have no opportunity to correct the record, but unless someone I knew who was on the app told me about it, I wouldn’t even know because men aren’t allowed on.
As someone who’s stayed away from creating accounts like Facebook the concept of being encouraged to share photos and real identities of people who haven’t consented to being on the social media site is really creepy to me.
Its like some random social media account shows up and you never signed up but a profile for you has already been made and has all these photos you never even shared on there because someone chose to upload them in your place.
I’d rather people choose not to associate with people who don’t have an account that has vetted on safety than be opted into something like this without choice.
Its like some random social media account shows up and you never signed up but a profile for you has already been made and has all these photos you never even shared on there because someone chose to upload them in your place.
Facebook literally does this, they just never let you see it, it’s internal for advertising purposes
That’s data collection versus an active public profile.
There was a forum in the Benelux that did exactly that and they had to shut down.
Of course they would. It’s only allowed as long as the genders aren’t flipped.
Oh great another centralized repository of data about people (uploaded without their knowledge or consent in the case of the men) that definitely won’t be abused by bad actors
Anddddd…, it’s already been breached: https://www.404media.co/women-dating-safety-app-tea-breached-users-ids-posted-to-4chan/
Yeah, it sounds like some well intentioned but extremely misinformed and unskilled (in the context of software and systems engineering) people just vibe-coded the thing together, and (shocked pikachu) it was a complete piece of shit security-wise.
This post is directly under a post about the breach in my feed.
It’s even mentioned at the top of the linked article.
Tea, which topped the Apple App Store charts this week — shortly before the app was hacked.
Oooooooooof
Saw that coming.
“What clubs does he go to?” another person asked on a different post. “He’s cute.”
Clubs? Are we in the 90ies?
We may not be in, but she may be from.
So this is an app that allows mass stalking/harassment. Imagine if men did this to women, the outcry would never end 😂
90ies
I can’t help but “hear” this as “Ninety eez”.
They’re surprisingly popular state-side. Especially in big party cities like Miami.
Whoops, native-germansher Verschreiber.
What? What term would be preferable to you?
Gen Z Man Reveals What Really ‘Killed Club Culture’
etc., you get the hint.
A study recently linked it to
- affordance (see above)
- better general consciousness for health vs. alcohol
- less tolerance for drunken slipups due to social media
Oh. So, you’re saying you don’t go to clubs. I thought you might have been saying it’s an outdated expression.
Alright then, carry on.
Denial will only hurt you later.
What on Earth are you talking about?
Edit oh, I’m not denying that club culture is dying and more unaffordable, I’m merely glad I wasn’t that out of the loop, thought there’s a new word for “club”
:(
Some of us
Someone saw that Black Mirror episode and said “Let’s make that for real.”
And they got the idea from the two prior databases.
At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel “Don’t Create the Torment Nexus”
I think you mean that Community episode.
Creating a digital social hierarchy was on my 2030 bingo card… dang.
Oh yeaaa hahahaha you are right 😂😂😂 sounds just like that episode
Huh…
Part of these types of things generally seem like a well-intentioned idea, but it’s also so creepy, scammy, and gross. This data won’t stop here by any means, and will be sold or used in a million different even shittier ways. Pretty fucked.
It’s fine, no reason to sell the data, the service was literally just breached!
Don’t these companies know how to properly configure a database? This seemed like it was completely preventable.
You think a company paddling gossip under the guise of “woman safety” would care about protecting personal information? 🤣
Don’t these companies know
No. The answer is always no
Lots of breaches are entirely preventable, but lots of companies don’t like to pay for qualified employees that could prevent them.
Starting salary for a cyber security expert is around 70,000€ and that’s for someone who’s relatively inexperienced so you would probably want to pay more like 90,000€, for these startups that’s seven or eight employees worth of salary and they don’t want to pay it.
The problem is it leads to things like this happening which kills their entire company.
Or they could do what they’re doing now which is work with a consultancy company which doesn’t cost anywhere near as much money but still costs quite a bit.
Don’t worry I’m sure the owner has already pocketed $10m in investor money and is currently parachuting away to plan their next fuckup
They don’t care. It’s not their information and there are no consequences.
Then how would they sell access in a deniable way?
Hahaha, that’s hilarious. I’ve just seen it on /g/ today.
😂
Yea I agree with you
yeah, well-intentioned things tend to go sour when exposed to the glow of anonymity on the internet. Starts off innocent, and goes downhill fast.
The creator, Sean, stating that he started this app as a reaction to the online dating scene his mother experienced, seems fine: an anti-catfishing app would be great.
To give the devil their due, the data they collect might also be valuable as data on how women discuss men online, which at a cursory glance seems to favor far more hyperbole than I see in everyday life.
