Lemmy.ml apparently. When you type B…I…T…C…H it automatically turns to removed. They’re treating you like some kid who can’t handle grown-up words. Switch to another instance if you want more freedom with your choice of words.
The more I see people from .ml and the more I learn about it
The more I think anyone on .ml is either just objectively stupid or ignorant of how stupid the instance is.
Not all of us. I just read what it said on the main page “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers” and thought that sounded good. I’m sure a lot of people that were new to lemmy figured the instance run by the devs themselves would be a safe bet. There also wasn’t nearly as much drama around .ml back then, but it honestly hasn’t been enough of an issue to make me create an account on a new instance and switch.
I think it has to do with what they are used to. They never knew the freedom other instances provided.
Also, don’t you have to read like the Communist Manifesto to even join lemmy,ml? Sounds to me only something objectively stupid people would do to join an internet forum.
Lemmy.ml banned me on my Startrek.website account years ago during the height of my posting. Like when I was posting 20 things every hour or two. Why? Posted some Jimmy Neutron meme about Disney having a first gay character and it being the 14th one this month. Title was like “Can always be the first in China at least for a couple minutes” or something along those lines.
From what I heard from some of the people who worked on .ml behind the scenes, they had to reverse the ban because a bunch of people started asking why there was no new content and other people started to realize it was because I had gotten banned.
Have never posted on lemmy.ml since and don’t bother to interact with the instance at all. I don’t have it blocked because not all users are like the admins but like fuck am I ever adding to that shithole ever again. I thought that was the worst I’d ever deal with from admins… and then I started getting personally harassed by the startrek.website admins across multiple websites and basically forgot about lemmy.ml entirely.
But, isn’t it wonderful that we can have a fediverse where there can be annoying instances like those ones, but if you don’t like it you can just move or block?
The fediverse is chaotic but I sure prefer chaos to having one corporate overlord with one point of view, and one goal, which is getting ads in front of as many eyeballs as possible.
Well, there is a type of censorship I guess. Some apps don’t allow people to post bad words like 卧槽，and so on. So people usually abbreviate the bad words to the first letter of each pinyin. So 卧槽 becomes “wc”.
This isn’t just for bad words tho, there’s many online slangs like xswl which means 笑死我了, and many more.
We’re all down to shit on new-deal-capitalism-with-chinese-characteristics, but you realize america’s had this for decades? Getting upset that it’s some uniquely chinese novelty is a little infuriating, as someone who has been doxxed and denied housing by that crap.
Idk if something has changed but I think this is a baseless claim.
If it’s just visual gamification…we’ve sort of already come out against that, since we discourage karma-seeking by not displaying user’s comment and post score totals.
Yeah I pretty much know that, and consider the lack of a karma score a feature not a bug of Lemmy. It’s just the obvious joke to crack on the subject of a social credit score on the fediverse.
So, what are the facts relating to China’s Social Credit System (SoCS)? First, a system does exist, but it is very different from what is imagined by many critics outside China. The biggest disconnect is around the notion of scores. Some commentators seem to imagine that a magic algorithm draws from AI cameras and internet surveillance all over the country to calculate a score that determines everyone’s place in society. In reality, the SoCS is not the techno-dystopian nightmare we fear: it is lowly digitalized, highly fragmented, and primarily focuses on businesses. Most importantly, such a score simply does not exist.
Classic lib move: dunking on nonexistent “ebil ccp” systems that started off as rumors mere days after the west decided it would clamp down on any semblance of internet freedom - upon a backdrop of rapidly burgeoning fascism and concentration camps. The US State Department has effortlessly oriented you.
Hi Ferrous, I would like to discuss this topic with you. However, I’m not entirely sure if you are human. So could you please solve this captcha for me?
I saw Margot Robbie, but i figured they’d been asked a thousand times if they were the real Margot, and even then it wouldnt have changed my interaction, so I just left it. Are they still around?
I never saw Biden, I thought his press account wod have been on bluesky
Anywhere but lemmygrad or hexbear, really. lemmy.dbzer0.com, lemmy.world (EDIT: ngl, I forgor there are multiple issues with this one. We should also be pushing folks to smaller instances anyways, because mega-servers are a threat to the fediverse.), lemmy.zip, or lemmy.blahaj.zone are all good ones. I’m quite partial to kbin.earth (although you’d need a different app), and there’s also piefed instances.
Dbzer0 is pretty solid. Never had any issues with the admins, they post pro piracy shit, and they even ask for your input before implementing rule changes. It’s pretty comfortable and meets my values well enough.
Literally anywhere that isn’t lemmygrad or hexbear will usually be better. You could go to an instance with open sign up until you find somewhere else, but they tend to house a lot of closeted reactionaries, I assume because those people like the anonymity. Personally I just looked up instances to see which ones I liked. They’ll have a description of who they are and if sign ups require an application you just say why you want to join their instance. It’s not a huge deal really.
Might want to consider piefed instances as well, it’s a fediverse front-end not developed by the weaklings that decided to censor your innocuous words.
I’m a refugee from lemm.ee and I’ve been enjoying piefed.zip and the .zip lemmy instance
Chose this one since I’ve heard (and from what I’ve seen) that like lemm.ee, the .zip instances only block the REALLY problematic stuff NSFL and illegal content, leaving it to the user to fill their own block lists rather than defederating
Edit, also used an mbin instance, I never really liked the microblog side of the fediverse (just not my thing) and wanted to continue to use voyager app
Literally any non-ml instance would be a way better choice. Also avoid hexbear. The rest are pretty solid. I’m happy with speed of Lemmus.org, but lemmy.world worked fine for me too.
I actually teach the kids in my life that intent is more important than “magic naughty words,” so they can say bitch all they want so long as they aren’t being hateful. So maybe starting from the assumption that the status quo is reasonable and has merit isn’t the smartest idea?
You can tag me whatever makes your ego feel better. I guess everything goes (including insults) but discuss the topic and reply the questions. You just proved my point ahahah
growing up with a single mom, an older sister, and a younger sister… there were only a couple word that were never acceptable
I could say shit fuck asshole motherfucker and so on
but the words Cnt and Btch were absolutely unacceptable
I remember one time, I was about to call my little sister a B*tch and I didn’t even know my mom was in the room but before I could even get the word out of my mouth, she smacked me so hard. I was like BUT THEY SAY IT ON TV SO IT MUST BE OK. Yeah that was the day I got a good lesson in how rules work for something and not for other but the rules mom makes are the only real rules you have to follow in life
Had you been attempting to call her a fuckface with shit for brains would that have been fine?
That seems like an odd enforcement of rules if so, you’d think any vulgar disparaging remarks would count, or none, but to be that highly selective is odd.
Who the fuck censors removed… You’re even allowed to say removed on TV
This is hilarious because the instance you signed up to doesn’t allow you to say bitch.
Lemmy.ml apparently. When you type B…I…T…C…H it automatically turns to removed. They’re treating you like some kid who can’t handle grown-up words. Switch to another instance if you want more freedom with your choice of words.
The more I see people from .ml and the more I learn about it The more I think anyone on .ml is either just objectively stupid or ignorant of how stupid the instance is.
Not all of us. I just read what it said on the main page “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers” and thought that sounded good. I’m sure a lot of people that were new to lemmy figured the instance run by the devs themselves would be a safe bet. There also wasn’t nearly as much drama around .ml back then, but it honestly hasn’t been enough of an issue to make me create an account on a new instance and switch.
I think it has to do with what they are used to. They never knew the freedom other instances provided.
Also, don’t you have to read like the Communist Manifesto to even join lemmy,ml? Sounds to me only something objectively stupid people would do to join an internet forum.
lol, no of course not, unless that changed later. I would have noped right out.
Lemmy.ml banned me on my Startrek.website account years ago during the height of my posting. Like when I was posting 20 things every hour or two. Why? Posted some Jimmy Neutron meme about Disney having a first gay character and it being the 14th one this month. Title was like “Can always be the first in China at least for a couple minutes” or something along those lines.
From what I heard from some of the people who worked on .ml behind the scenes, they had to reverse the ban because a bunch of people started asking why there was no new content and other people started to realize it was because I had gotten banned.
Have never posted on lemmy.ml since and don’t bother to interact with the instance at all. I don’t have it blocked because not all users are like the admins but like fuck am I ever adding to that shithole ever again. I thought that was the worst I’d ever deal with from admins… and then I started getting personally harassed by the startrek.website admins across multiple websites and basically forgot about lemmy.ml entirely.
But, isn’t it wonderful that we can have a fediverse where there can be annoying instances like those ones, but if you don’t like it you can just move or block?
The fediverse is chaotic but I sure prefer chaos to having one corporate overlord with one point of view, and one goal, which is getting ads in front of as many eyeballs as possible.
Blocking an instance only blocks you from seeing communities there, it doesn’t block you from seeing users posting in other communities.
This is a fundamental flaw of the system if you ask me.
Not being able to blanket block the users of an instance sucks.
I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, the devs are .ml fans, and they know such a feature would ruin their instance because people fucking hate them.
Check the changelogs for the latest release then. :)
What kind of bitches censor bitches? Like, what’s wrong with my dogs?
Are you the legendary Poem for your sprog of yore?!
They are just trying to be like the CCP, their heroes. Wait until they roll out their social credit system in upcoming Lemmy releases!
https://old.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/uob3rv/are_curse_words_censored/i8dcxjz/
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/12/censor/
— John Gilmore, founder, Electronic Frontier Foundation
We’re all down to shit on new-deal-capitalism-with-chinese-characteristics, but you realize america’s had this for decades? Getting upset that it’s some uniquely chinese novelty is a little infuriating, as someone who has been doxxed and denied housing by that crap.
Are they going to implement Reddit-style karma?
Idk if something has changed but I think this is a baseless claim.
That is a 3 years old comment, but I can’t find anything newer (mostly looking at GitHub) suggesting Lemmy devs have any intention of adding karma
Yeah I pretty much know that, and consider the lack of a karma score a feature not a bug of Lemmy. It’s just the obvious joke to crack on the subject of a social credit score on the fediverse.
https://merics.org/en/comment/chinas-social-credit-score-untangling-myth-reality
Classic lib move: dunking on nonexistent “ebil ccp” systems that started off as rumors mere days after the west decided it would clamp down on any semblance of internet freedom - upon a backdrop of rapidly burgeoning fascism and concentration camps. The US State Department has effortlessly oriented you.
Hi Ferrous, I would like to discuss this topic with you. However, I’m not entirely sure if you are human. So could you please solve this captcha for me?
Yup, the United States government sucks. However, the Chinese government also sucks.
Which has nothing to do with the myth of a social credit score…
Woah are you the OG sprog? Great to see you here!
Holy shit sprog is here too! Big fan
Wait until you meet Margot Robbie and President Biden, who posted here in the early days and definitely wasn’t me.
Margot Robbie, SatansMaggotyCumFart, Kolanaki, The Picard Maneuver
We’ve got a whole list of local celebs that can be met!
Cum farts is here? Huh small world
You know him from outside the fediverse too?
I saw Margot Robbie, but i figured they’d been asked a thousand times if they were the real Margot, and even then it wouldnt have changed my interaction, so I just left it. Are they still around?
I never saw Biden, I thought his press account wod have been on bluesky
It’s not the real Margot, just someone who plays her on TV.
Lmao
Edit: wait did you do that on purpose?
Holy fuck that can’t be real. I’m almost convinced to make an account just to see if they’re trolling. Is this how they recruit?
lemmy.ml is run by nannie-state fucktards that masturbate with such silly displays of power.
Well aa long as there’s consent
Well, since the poster had their own comment censored, obviously not.
Implied. Not obvious. They could be into that.
This is how they enforce the CCP’s social values.
Your instance does…
any recommendations on where to jump ship to?
I went to Mander, since .ml is blocked in China.
.ml is blocked in China? Wild.
IKR. I want to know what kind of spicy take got it blocked.
Pretty sure China would block all lemmy instances they knew of, the smaller ones just flew under the radar.
I think so too, but .world wasn’t blocked.
Anywhere but lemmygrad or hexbear, really. lemmy.dbzer0.com,
lemmy.world(EDIT: ngl, I forgor there are multiple issues with this one. We should also be pushing folks to smaller instances anyways, because mega-servers are a threat to the fediverse.), lemmy.zip, or lemmy.blahaj.zone are all good ones. I’m quite partial to kbin.earth (although you’d need a different app), and there’s also piefed instances.Or one of the regional ones (feddit.org for german speaking countries for example)
I’m on feddit.nl do they censor shit or have other issues I should know about?
Idk, they’re probably fine. There are SO many instances out there nowadays, and I’d guess most of them are fine.
Dbzer0 is pretty solid. Never had any issues with the admins, they post pro piracy shit, and they even ask for your input before implementing rule changes. It’s pretty comfortable and meets my values well enough.
Not .world. Just as bad but rabidly pro genocide.
Literally anywhere that isn’t lemmygrad or hexbear will usually be better. You could go to an instance with open sign up until you find somewhere else, but they tend to house a lot of closeted reactionaries, I assume because those people like the anonymity. Personally I just looked up instances to see which ones I liked. They’ll have a description of who they are and if sign ups require an application you just say why you want to join their instance. It’s not a huge deal really.
My 2 cents is lemmy.zip. it’s the most like the lost treasure that was lemm.ee. it leaves a lot of censoring up to the user
sh.itjust.works is awesome. The admins are cool as shit, and as you can tell from the name, there’s no BS censorship.
@nukeforyou2@lemmy.ml don’t tell anybody* but The Dude (admin) somehow keeps this place blazingly fast, super fast updates, the whole enchilada
99% renewable energy powered too apparently if you’re into that
Lazy linkin’ it just in case too sh.itjust.works/signup
*everybody excepted
Might want to consider piefed instances as well, it’s a fediverse front-end not developed by the weaklings that decided to censor your innocuous words.
I should do that too…
I’m a refugee from lemm.ee and I’ve been enjoying piefed.zip and the .zip lemmy instance
Chose this one since I’ve heard (and from what I’ve seen) that like lemm.ee, the .zip instances only block the REALLY problematic stuff NSFL and illegal content, leaving it to the user to fill their own block lists rather than defederating
Edit, also used an mbin instance, I never really liked the microblog side of the fediverse (just not my thing) and wanted to continue to use voyager app
Literally any non-ml instance would be a way better choice. Also avoid hexbear. The rest are pretty solid. I’m happy with speed of Lemmus.org, but lemmy.world worked fine for me too.
join-lemmy.org has a list of joinable servers, there’s also https://fedidb.com/software/lemmy (and another one i can’t rember rn)
Come over to lemmy.zip!
The level of shit .ml, lemmygrad and hexbear users receive for no good reason leaves me always speechless.
You shouldn’t say b.itch in person, we don’t teach kids to say it, why is it crazy to moderate them?
I actually teach the kids in my life that intent is more important than “magic naughty words,” so they can say bitch all they want so long as they aren’t being hateful. So maybe starting from the assumption that the status quo is reasonable and has merit isn’t the smartest idea?
I just tagged you as “bitch”, you bitch.
Word censorship is ridiculous for sure
I mean is this the damn internet or not!
That said would kindly request a lil introspection on this comment
You can tag me whatever makes your ego feel better. I guess everything goes (including insults) but discuss the topic and reply the questions. You just proved my point ahahah
Holy shit is this a joke or did they actually remove the word bitch?
They definitely removed the word removed, those bitches
growing up with a single mom, an older sister, and a younger sister… there were only a couple word that were never acceptable
I could say shit fuck asshole motherfucker and so on
but the words Cnt and Btch were absolutely unacceptable
I remember one time, I was about to call my little sister a B*tch and I didn’t even know my mom was in the room but before I could even get the word out of my mouth, she smacked me so hard. I was like BUT THEY SAY IT ON TV SO IT MUST BE OK. Yeah that was the day I got a good lesson in how rules work for something and not for other but the rules mom makes are the only real rules you have to follow in life
Ok, thanks for sharing, but nobody is forcing you to write bitch. Not everyone has a trauma like you.
I mean I’d rather have someone called a bitch than a kid being “smacked so hard”.
Ah yes, child abuse, the best way to teach kids not to use slurs. /s
Had you been attempting to call her a fuckface with shit for brains would that have been fine?
That seems like an odd enforcement of rules if so, you’d think any vulgar disparaging remarks would count, or none, but to be that highly selective is odd.
you don’t have a close relationship with a woman do you?
What does having women in your life have to do with calling general slurs? Are they allergic or something?
Can I say dick in front of them or will they start fuming at the mouth?
You mean other than your mom?
Your mom sounds like a bitch
Bitch whaat ?
Oh removed got removed!
This caused so much confusion for me lol. Bitch.