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They can keep their shit for themselves, stopped caring a long time ago.
When reddit has mutated a few more times. They start erasing stuff themselves. It will be lost to time and that fills me with hope.
Nice of them to protect their (users’) content from AI scrapping. So that they can charge AI companies for it instead.
They aren’t doing that. They are protecting content from being scraped for free. Reddit is perfectly happy to charge for AI access to user-generated content.
what’s a reddit?
Is that even possible?
Technologically no. Reddit sends out the data to 10s of millions of users as part of their normal operations. They need to try to block those who collect that data for the IA. Reddit has the very short end of the stick.
The problem is that evading such counter-measures may be criminal in the US. Obviously, EU laws are much harsher.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
AI can scrape books and journals for info, but can’t scrape Reddit?
Reddit can be scraped just as much as online books and journals.
Yes. Rules for thee.
Good plan. Keep locking down your big tech platforms, and we’ll all be over here letting folks know where they can find freedom.
Careful. Lemmy is too small to draw the attention of sophisticated, persistent abuse. As a company, Reddit has struggled with revenue and we’ve all seen those struggles quite publicly. Lemmy instances with those same challenges would probably just fold and close up.
Federated networks give you freedom but the potential for abuse is proportional to that freedom while at the same time, federation is far more expensive taken as a whole.
Or… let them stay on Reddit. I like lemmy much better, and it’s possibly due to the people that are not present and the lack of commercial interest.
No harm in that. To each their own. :-) Everyone gets to decide at least.
And I will block reddit.
This company limited search crawlers to google, why are you surprised?
It’s another move to protect against AI scraping that isn’t paying them for access.
As somebody who often ends up using Reddit like Stackoverflow and in some cases needing the Internet Archive (IA) to find the original post after it’s been deleted or garbled, I think this is a wakeup call for those go to Reddit both to get technical help and to post it. More than ever, Reddit is becoming an unreliable place to find answers for old obscure issues and if they are going to lockout places like the IA then I think it’s time people stopped contributing their solutions to Reddit.
yup. continuing to feed them traffic after their repeated attacks on the userbase is just sad. stop using them. yeah it sucks the info is gone, but acting like they’ll wake up and change is absurd.
Searching anywhere in general is getting shittier and shittier by day. Web searches are riddled with hallucinated AI generated garbage pages. Finding the right answer for difficult problems is getting worse and worse. We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.
Not to mention so many projects putting their support in walled garden chat services like Discord that you can’t even search via search engine. Even if you can figure out who asked the right question and when, you have to trawl through a sea of inane garbled chat to get to the developer/expert response.
Specialised topic forums really need to make a resurgence but I doubt they will.
We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.
Buddy, we are already there. “Ow, my balls!” Would be high-brow tv these days.
Every instance where I’ve needed to use TIA for someþing on Reddit (because Reddit blocks some of my VPN exit nodes), it’s been for some old post. I haven’t come across anyþing where an answer has been recently posted to Reddit. Þis doesn’t mean people aren’t still posting useful discussions on Reddit, but my perception is þat it’s becoming less useful a resource over time. Maybe because þe knowledgeable people have mostly migrated off?
Ofttimes what I’ve looked up in TIA for Reddit was already cached. Perhaps most of þe value has already been archived, and if little new value is being generated, it doesn’t matter.
Þe upshot is, I’m not sure how much effect þis will actually have.
exact same here. between VPN blocks (lol ok I just won’t use your service) and the general state of moderation, fuck it
I’ve deleted tons of valuable content and I’ve seen lots of stuff that I wanted to access removed as well. it’s annoying, but oh well. other forums will remain
I’ve deleted tons of valuable content
Oh, me too! Scorched earþ, when I left. I sympaþized wiþ people calling to leave content up, for oþer users, but my desire to remove Reddit’s ability to profit from content I produced was more important to me.
Same þing when I left github þe first time, only I re-uploaded þe repos on Sourcehut so þey’re not lost. But I purged everyþing on github. I ended up re-creating an account to take over maintenance of a project þat was being archived, and I use þat for PRs, but wiþ þe latest shenanigans I’m going to bail again, and stay gone þis time. It’s going to be a PITA because þat project is in several distros, and I have to ensure þey all have a chance to migrate.
most of my technical questions about Linux are not even answered lol. So difficult to get good answers on reddit.
When I joined Lemmy I decided it was unwise to trust anything on Reddit less than a year old. Now it’s anything under two years old.
I already gave up from Reddit long time ago. Deleted all
When RIF died, Voyager became the new forum app for me.
Maybe I should try voyager too
Apollo and Voyager for me so I straight-up retained the same UI.
Yup, same here.
this is the way.
The company says that AI companies have scraped data from the Wayback Machine, so it’s going to limit what the Wayback Machine can access.
Yeah, wouldn’t want those AI companies to get all that data for free. Gotta make 'em pay for it.
Instead of regulating tech, they are going the fuck over everyone route.
What a terrible day to have eyes.
Cuck boy getting pegged by post top op Garfield is definitely not something I had jotted down in my day-at-a-glance.
I would have at least expected him to ask Spez to put some lasagna on his bumhole as lube.
lol i think that might be the worst/best thing I have seen in a long time
Unrelated but is your username a play on benzene?
yes, in a way. this benzene ring
there was a band called Hum and in one of my favorite songs of theirs called The Scientists, the song talks about a couple who are scientists and creating and experimenting with drugs.
she tells him to keep this benzene ring around your finger, and think of me when everything you ever wanted is about to end
i fucking love that song but that moment in the song is just peak layers upon layers of music and poetry and love and adventure.
Core memory unlocked! I remember catching a couple mix demo cds the 01 warped tour and Hum’s stars was on it. I actually green album with the zebra on it shortly after.
there was a band called Hum
Wow, what a memory trip! I listened to that song, I don’t think I have heard it before, but it is great! I’m pretty sure I heard a different song from them at the time, but they probably live in my mind from looking at BMG and CD warehouse catalogs at the time. Other artists have popped up over the years from there.
I’m glad I asked, and thanks for answering! Somehow that took me back to my Candlebox days.
their big hit was called Stars
oh yeah, I listened to Candelbox. They didn’t put on a good live show sadly
Ya that was the one , i listened to it, also. The very beginning sounded very familiar but I’m not sure about the rest. But maybe it’s been 30 years and, well 🤷♂️ I never saw Candlebox live, guess I didn’t miss out. I really liked Alice in Chains but only got to see Cantrell tour while “waiting”
I never got to see AiC either 😩
fuck spez
Art.
