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    So am I one of those people who used to be a huge conservative and I did listen to Charlie years and years ago. I watched way too many of his little debates.

    But once you get out of the echo chambers and start questioning anything he said, you would be attacked instantly by the right.

    Charlies main thing was to take someone’s serious question, and focus on one little part he could exploit and drill them for it. It was a great way for his supporters to say “YEAHHHH GET EM!!!” While the person asking the question never got an actual answer and instead was laughed at and mocked.

    It was all propaganda and designed to separate people and he was a horrible person.

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    As a lifelong chicken, I don’t know what to make of Colonel Sanders. I’ve since spent several factory-farm feeding sessions, watching his cooking lessons (FULL live-in-person-show), and have come away with the impression that we, chicken-kind, got him all wrong. The reactions from my species — have really made me question my entire existence.

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    As a lifelong Democrat, I didn’t know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I’ve since spent several lunch breaks watching his debates (FULL videos) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me Show more

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    Even though it’s true that the left has messaging problem, the right has an efficient propaganda machine well oiled by the monied interest.

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      I would assume that the US understanding of corporate “speech” rights (per Citizens United) will at some point lead to a Supreme Court ruling that grants explicit personhood (including the right to political affiliation) to corporations and AI bots by extension.

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        Yes, but when Elon bought Twitter, he said adding a paid subscription was a way to verify accounts.

        We all knew it was bullshit, but we should still call them out on lying.

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      Reminder to everyone: you can monetize being a blue-check twitter user if you get enough followers and engagement.

      It’s not much, but in places like India and other countries, it’s more than enough to live on, and as a result there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of shill accounts based in India and other countries, who just circulate each other, follow each other, retweet each other and recycle the same Grok talking points and hollow phrases all day, every day.

      Our entire political landscape is being propped up on the backs of people who do not know or care about what happens in the USA and are just shaving off as much as they can by riding along like the remoras that follow sharks.

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          Repeat right-wing bullshit all day and push nazi takes on midwest white women until you get retweeted enough that you make a couple bucks. Helps if you actually farm like, 60 accounts on burner phones, each doing the exact same thing.

          Helps more if like, a million of your friends do the same thing.

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              That’s my point in my original comment, that the rate of return for the effort is just enough to recruit an army of foreigners to influence our politics.

              I don’t have negative feelings towards people in India trying to survive by using any means necessary, I certainly get it, these are humans with lives and families and the opportunity is just dangled in front of them.

              But these are people who don’t have to live in the country they help tear down to ashes and rubble by supporting right-wing, fascist propaganda.

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    What I really don’t understand is why are we still seeing copy-pasted messages from bots in 2025. We have LLMs now. We had for a couple of years. It’s not that hard to generate unique messages. You’d think (the people operating) these bots would use that?

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    The spam detection works, though!

    (As intended - on the ones criticising these posts.)

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    Sad thing is that in this day and age, they’d hardly need to lift a finger to have this rephrased 100 times. But they know they don’t have to. People eat up the garbage from their feed, people (often the same) know that a lot of it is Russian bots.

    p. s: Still surprised how poorly ChatGPT-5 Thinking handled this. A lot of obvious bot content, such as “weeks of uncut videos and policy dives” by a Democrat, “attended a live event” etc.

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      At this point, I think it’s a feature. Just like how when Russia does propaganda, they lie so big it’s easily disproven, so once someone bites down on it they’re pulled into a fake world

      The old style of US propaganda was to flood the zone - bury what you want to hide out in the open and add so much more information people can’t be bothered to learn about it.

      The new style (even before chat gpt) seems to be an ocean of bots and bullshit. Who cares if you can spot a bot if you already don’t trust anyone online? It’s destroying organic communication so we’re forced to go to a central source, which are controlled

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      The thing to understand is that people don’t see outside of their silos.

      While it’s obvious when you line then up like that most people will never see that posts. The interact with social media passively and they’re likely to only see one of those posts as they scroll.

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        I’ve also fallen for and followed a fake account before. It was some neckbeard pretending to be a female disabled doctor. Apparently, he actually was some kind of advocate for the disabled, possibly started with the self-justification to “help”.

        Oh wow, apparently it was a bigger deal than I thought back then: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jule_Stinkesocke

        Is the one about Kirk unbelievable? Some parts, yes, such as the immediate registration as Republican (not shown in screenshots), but in general, there are favorable non-Republican responses, such as “Shoe on Head”. I’m also upset about quotes out of context, that part seems to be real, and so it builds a bridge from reality to fiction. It’s just that I wouldn’t turn full MAGA because Stephen King smeared a conservative.

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          Stink e sock e? And the name was fake?

          Before I sarcastically say I’m shocked I should look up if it’s a real surname… No dice. Gamers and a furaffinity account appears to be referencing the person, and there’s a children’s book that includes the word in the title.

          So without further ado, I’M SHOCKED! SHOCKED I SAY!!!

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            It was a shock, and my faith in the internet will be lost entirely if it turns out that your name is not actually Killgrind.

            (Her supposed real name was Julia Goethe Gothe, in case anyone wants to know. Former Twitter handle @JuleStinkesocke.)

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    This is genuinely depressing. This isn’t people getting their orders and posting thusly, this is one asshole with their bot accounts. Most of Social Media is malarkey, Dead Internet Theory will slowly become true as AI invades more and more spaces.

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    That’s how social media gives impression that there is more hard right people.

    Unfortunately it also amplifies the existing ones, because makes them think they are the majority.

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      social media

      Hell, PBS news last night kicked off with coverage of Kirk’s memorial service, which they described as having a “massive” turnout. Interesting that they never used the word “massive” to describe the recent anti-MAGA protests.

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        Pbs has gotten bad lately. One of their correspondents just endorsed the lie about command and control from gazan hospitals, he saw it first hand. Then they allow some Unapologetic is real hack to come on and lie about what they are doing with no pushback. Then stuff like this. I do not know if I can even watch them anymore if they are going to just give up and run with the party line.

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          I sometimes describe the PBS News Hour as “Fox News aimed at old white liberals”. I’ve been trying to wean my parents (old white liberals) off of it, but they go all the way back to the days of The MacNeil/Lehrer report and they just can’t accept that it’s become something entirely different decades later. The sad thing is that watching it every night leaves them suicidally depressed but they can’t stop themselves.

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            That’s how I would describe CNN.

            I haven’t watched to much this week, but the issues with Charlie Kirk have extended to every news platform. Earlier this year, they were pretty good about their reporting on Palestine which leads me to believe this is an issue with that particular host.

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            Compared to the rest they were doing a decent job in many respects but it seems to me like they just gave up and surrendered any sort of journalistic Integrity just this last week. I understand they might have to bring out a pro-israel person, but not one pushing through such blatant fall cities with the interviewer nodding along and agreeing with everything they say. I got to find the name of that interviewer so I can let other people know how much of a piece of shit he is.

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        Tbf the memorial filled the stadium and people had to go into a prepped overflow space. Objectively speaking, that’s a good amount of folks.

        NPR used terms like “flooding the streets” and “5 million people” to describe the anti maga protests, which should scratch the itch?

        What articles are you referring to that don’t cover the protests to your satisfaction?

        If you’re going to go after public broadcasting, which just lost all of its federal funding, I hope you have receipts.