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It’s as much Star Trek as the unofficial Trek movie Galaxy Quest. Doesn’t matter if the characters and universe are different, it’s got the same vibe to fit in.
Galaxy Quest is the best Trek movie
Right after First Contact and The Wrath of Khan, yes.
And Voyage Home
And The Undiscovered Country
Undiscovered Country is my favorite TOS movie, even above The Wrath of Khan.
Undiscovered Country is even better if you watch it in the original Klingon.
taH Pagh taHbe’! That is the question.
I’d put it above all the TNG movies, too.
I can understand why. The motivations and message are a bit deeper than WoK. But UC wouldn’t have happened (in the same way) without WoK first, since I don’t think Kirk had the same hatred towards Klingons before. Distrust sure, but not revenge level hate.
UC also has that connection with one of the best TNG episodes, Yesterday’s Enterprise.
Aren’t you thinking of The Search for Spock? I don’t remember any Klingons at all in ST2. Or do you mean that ST3 wouldn’t have happened without ST2?
Good point, at worst it ranks about equally with Galaxy Quest for me … Sigourney Weaver weights my ranking a lot though
I will agree that those two movies have the absolute best soundtracks of all the movies.
The Orville has more Star Trek Vibe than most recent official shows
More than Discovery. Somewhat less than SNW. Not even close to Lower Decks.
A few years back, it was true, though. Picard…
More then SNW, by a good margin.
It’s literally just camp TNG with juvenile humor, mildly annoying characters, and low stakes.
Tell me you didn’t finish season 1 without…
Honestly I kind of wanted them to keep more of the humorous tone. I know a lot of people hated it and thought it was distracting, but I thought it was a pretty unique take on the genre. I wish they’d toned it down without going full space opera.
It took me a while to get passed the early episodes, they were a little too “family guy” for me.
But the show did get pretty good in season 2, and the humour got better (in my opinion).
I think the humour in the first few episodes was Mcfarlens way of sneaking the show past the network suits - he sold it as family guy meets star trek, then switched on them once it was established.
Literally the case, the first couple eps were written for fartjock executives. Ep 4 onwards were written for the show. It’s why there’s a sudden stratospheric upswing
The humor is the worst. All kidding aside, I wish you all the best.
I bet he didn’t even fuck a ghost!
I’m sure there’s no actual juvenile humor in the armed forces.
Someone didn’t watch past ep 3
This show is so freaking Star Trek that it out-Star Treks the Star Trek.
When that second episode of the first season dropped I said the same thing to a friend that’s a die hard Star Trek fan. They weren’t enjoying the new Trek, yet, but wanted the thought provoking episodes now, action later/sprinkled in
Totally agree, it’s definitely more Star Trek than any of the new Star Trek series.
I’ll defend Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds.
Lower Decks is amazing. It’s up there with Futurama. It’s just damn good, even if you’re not a trek fan.
Lower Decks is the entire reason I’ve even begun my Star Trek adventure. I’d watch Trek occasionally whenever it was on TV, but now I’ve watched all of LD, DISC, SNW, TOS, the first 6 movies, 6 seasons of TNG, and 1 Season of ENT in like the past 2 months or so.
I’m actually doing the same thing, all because of LD. Wanting to know more about the lore.
I heard the review “better Trek than Trek”.
Held up against Discovery or JJ’s movies? Absolutely better. But I don’t think it’s defensible to say it surpasses ALL of Trek.
I think he aimed that comment at Discovery.
People keep saying this, so as someone who has only watched half of the first season, when does it get to this point?
I mean it’s amusing enough, but it’s just a pastiche of cliches and obvious gags. People keep saying that it distills Trek down to its essence or something like that, but to me it seems like “watered down” would be more accurate.
Having a bad first season is as Star Trek as you can get. All kidding aside, it gets better and more serious with time.
Just like TNG it starts picking up in the 2nd season and really hits its stride on the 3rd season. If you were to rewatch TNGs first season without the nostalgia goggles you’d consider it pretty campy too.
For me it was really quick. S1E4, If the Stars Should Appear.
After the first season it begins to feel a bit less campy and the crude humor is toned down a bit and even more so I feel by the third season. The overall plot starts to show itself in season 2 and just gets better from there.
I saw a different season 3 I guess. The humor was gone but the kind and progressive approach to problems that I like about Trek was kinda gone too.
It’s an alternate universe’s Star Trek. They just need some handwavium device to cross universe and they could make a crossover episode.
When are we getting the Wilbur TV show? That’s what I want to know.
it’s been a long road . . . .
Don’t you start.
getting from there to here…
Oh great, thanks for turning on the breakfast radio in my head.
We definitely do need that show…
I’m actually surprised there isn’t, as far as I know, a modern high-budget miniseries about the Wright brothers. It seems like such an obvious biography subject.
I know. They could easily do it now, and potentially very well. It seems like a slam dunk.
I’d watch the shit out of it, especially if care was made to be as accurate as possible [while still being entertaining.]
Can you imagine how cool it would be to see reproductions of those early planes flying? They wouldn’t have to stop at the first flight. They could do something like go up through WWI.
swiggity swooty
The Orville literally made me give Star Trek an actual try. I think of it as my first series of Trek.
Welcome beratna.
Another one here ☝️
So which one of those guys is Orville?
This makes sense, we all remember Katherine Voyager Janeway
Or the Jean-Luc The-New-Generation Picard
It all started with James “Star” Trek Kirk.
They’re standing inside him.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Is it his birthday?
Orville was such an aimless show in the beginning. Obviously it started out going for campy comedy parody but it honestly wasn’t hitting the mark on the comedy often enough. I’m stalled out somewhere in early Season 3–not because I wasn’t enjoying it, I think it’s actually gotten pretty good by that point, but just time and other commitments.
I prefer the first seasons that they didn’t take the show too seriously. The last ones (or last one?) Was way too dense, with episodes way too long that got be bored at half episode every time.
I agree, earlier seasons had the right balance
I agree as well. And I’ve had my best laugh while watching season one and being high.
Because it was probably written while being high…
I had the opposite experience lol! I really liked the first season, season 2 started off pretty well, but I lost interest before I got to season 3. It felt like the later episodes were either too preachy, or too focused on trying to make the characters “cool” instead of funny. I just wasn’t enjoying it any more
I just got burned out on Moclan drama, and the Kaylon got a little too Star Wars for me.
I love the humor in it. Gordon and Lamarr racing to deliver some news was one of the funniest goddamn things I’ve ever seen (trying not to spoil it if someone wants to watch and hasn’t yet). But that humor was a little too juvenile at the very start. My guess has been that the earlier stuff was for the benefit of funding. They expected Family Guy in Space, so he delivered it, for a handful of episodes, then took the show where it was supposed to be.
Until Strange New World came out, Orville was my favorite Trek since TNG.
I felt the exact same way. I was okay with Discovery and Picard not being for me because I had The Orville.
I’m not sure the mods are going to care honestly. I think most are in agreement that the Orville is basically star trek adjacent, and close enough that… Honestly as long as it doesn’t take over, nobody will bat an eye at the occasional Orville meme.
I love Trek but I don’t really care for McFarlane’s sense of humor, is the Orville worth checking out anyway?
Yep. He duped Fox into paying him for a Sci-Fi comedy show and then he went and made a loving homage to Trek.
My theory for the behind the scenes:
McFarland: I would like to make a star trek parody!
Fox: oh sounds awesome, lots of funny jokes and stuff. Should be funny.
M: yes haha, funny.
F: yes… Anyway here’s the money
Making episode one
M: I gotta make sure there’s loads of jokes so I can show this to execs and they see the haha bits
Making episode 3
M: okay I think they’re gone… Time to just literally make normal star trek episodes
making the last episode of s1
F: hey I see you’re almost done with the first season so I’m just checking in that the show is still funny
M: quickly adding in as many jokes as the last second as possible haha yes humor! Jokes! Plenty of them! Haha yes
Yes. They tone down the humor over time
The drama bits and plotlines are every bit as good as TNG/Voyager/DS9, but if you don’t like McFarlane’s humor, I doubt you would like the other 75% of the show’s content.
But the humour is like at its highest like 15% of the show
Thing is it’s not the humour, it’s the humanity. Showing all the crew are just as dorky as your average human today, not all stick-wedged paragons like TNG. Think of the top time funniest moments - getting Bortus to eat a cactus, 500 cigarettes, karaoke, the moustache, the dancing bandito, isaac’s joke fail… the humour is there, but it’s the humanity that makes them. that’s where s3 kinda fell down a bit, i don’t know if it was covid rush or what, but we missed a lot of the warmer moments. Season finale delivered though.
Wake me up when we are posting Hyperdrive memes
Talkydoor?
