• SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 年前

          Or charged with a crime. All the protections of a person with none of the liability. Seriously it’s beyond stupid. If someone said that to you you would laugh awkwardly and get out of the convo asap and depending who it was talk to their family about possible treatment from psychiatric providers. Yet here we are, having to all pretend like the psycho is right because they bribed a politician into making it the law.

    • morrowind@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      114
      ·
      edit-2
      1 年前

      I mean it’s a free market, it’s not reasonable nor desirable to proactively prohibit all possible bad scenarios

      edit: to anyone downvoting, read carefully

      • dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        52
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        1 年前

        I read your comment carefully and still downvoted because its an incredibly dumb thing to say.

        • AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          34
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 年前

          Tbh whenever I see someone editing their comment to put “conditions” on people downvoting their trash opinion I automatically downvote. Whine or cry or try to put conditions on people downvoting you? Believe it or not, instant downvote.

          • morrowind@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            25
            ·
            1 年前

            I only said that because I’m pretty sure 99% of the people here agree with me, you included but are downvoting as a kneejerk reaction.

            • kwking13@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              17
              ·
              edit-2
              1 年前

              There’s never a scenario on the internet where 99% of people agree with you…unless you’re just talking to yourself. Just let it go, not like you lose anything with downvotes.

            • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              1 年前

              What the fuck do you think regulations are for? If we didn’t have them companies would skip crucial steps because they are expensive. Take Tesla for example, removing radar/lidar because of expense and they are bulky. But are nessesarry, shit they’re putting mics outside the car to listen for sirens.a

        • distantsounds@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          16
          ·
          1 年前

          why is it a dumb thing to say? in a free market, it is wise to take all that you can for your shareholders. Maybe a free market isn’t what you desire?

          • Fraylor@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            15
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 年前

            It’s greedy and antisocial. You’re a moron. Capitalism is a stain on world history.

            • distantsounds@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              10
              ·
              edit-2
              1 年前

              well, that’s kind of exactly what we’re saying. we are stating what laissez faire capitalism is. i agree that it is antisocial, greedy, immoral and a bane of our existence…and really the major thing holding modern society back. i never said i support a free market (hint: i don’t)…just stating what it is. your reply might come off as antisocial (ie morons)

              • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 年前

                So the way to counteract that would be passing laws preventing it? The thing being proposed?

                This is like me saying “my house is on fire! Put water on it!” And someone replying “you shouldn’t do that because the purpose of fire is to burn things” and thinking they’re clever. Nobody here is pro-fire.

              • Fraylor@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                1 年前

                I mean I’m fine being antisocial myself. My impact is very minimal. Unless you are comparing your hurt feelies with the destruction and misery capitalism causes.

      • Garbanzo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        50
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        1 年前

        That’s a really good point. I should be able to buy some people since it’s a free market and it’s just impossible to curb exploitation.

            • thefartographer@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 年前

              Hmmm… Can you tell me how to use my paid leave? I like it when medical leave gets denied because I wasn’t sick enough. Beat me with those loopholes, daddy!

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            1 年前

            Looks like people think that’s what you said. Maybe you should consider clarifying instead of just saying “I didn’t say that” or “read it again”.

            If the majority of people are “misunderstanding” you, maybe you should consider the possibility that the problem is with what you said, not with the people reading it.

            • morrowind@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              17
              ·
              1 年前

              I’ve looked over it, it’s one very simple sentence.

              There’s not much I can do at this point, my comment is caught up in the circlejerk train. That’s just the redditlemmy experience

              • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                10
                ·
                1 年前

                If everyone is misunderstanding you, and you can’t figure out how to reword or explain your intention, that’s not a circle jerk. That’s just you expressing yourself incredibly poorly.

                Reword it, delete it, or walk away. Insisting people “read it again” isn’t doing anything.

      • mmababes@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        36
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        We don’t have a free market. Wall Street gets bailouts, congress engages in insider trading, corporations collude to limit wages, and policies favor banks and corporations. Consequently, the last 50+ years have seen the decimation of the middle and working classes.

        • distantsounds@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          23
          ·
          1 年前

          Now are downvoting because: What they said isn’t true… Disagree with what was said… Missed that they are pointing out a free market does not give a fuck about you; unless you are profits…

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            18
            ·
            1 年前

            Because it’s inaccurate.

            It would be correct and proper for the government to pass laws to protect the population and prevent bad outcomes.

            • distantsounds@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 年前

              uhmmm that is the point being expressed here…you all just want to fight. Bro describes the exactly what a free market is and people get up in arms here. That’s like if someone describes what a house on fire looks like and then is accused of being pro-house-on-fire. smh

              • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 年前

                uhmmm that is the point being expressed here…you all just want to fight. Bro describes the exactly what a free market is and people get up in arms here. That’s like if someone describes what a house on fire looks like and then is accused of being pro-house-on-fire. smh

                The point being expressed here is the current system is bad and needs to be fixed.

                It’s like if someone proposed putting out a house fire and bro came in saying you shouldn’t put out the fire because that’s how fires work. It’s neither profound nor helpful.

      • paddirn@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        I was just saying that as I was about to send my 6-year old out to the corner store to go buy some cigarettes for me, since our free market hasn’t imposed any restrictions on that transaction.

        Or if you look at the housing market specifically, in my area at least, I can’t buy a second home in the same area as an individual. I can buy investment properties that I’d need to rent out, but I’m forbidden from owning a second residence for myself.

        State, Local, and Federal lawmakers are constantly proactively prohibiting bad scenarios. And in this case, it wouldn’t even be proactive, it’s literally something that’s going on right now that needs corrected.

        Homes are for people.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        If allowing ordinary people to be priced out of owning homes is your idea of a free market, then fuck the free market.

        • SCB@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 年前

          People are priced out of homes specifically because the market has been kneecapped by bad zoning policy.

          Homeowners got theirs and then pulled up the ladder

      • shalafi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        1 年前

        Gods yes. We can’t predict every sort of bad behavior in the market, only react. Bunch of arm-chair quarterbacks in here, “We should have seen this coming!” Watch 10 people tell me exactly how we could have.

        And on this issue, it’s high time to react. Doubt it will happen. :(

      • theneverfox@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 年前

        It’s not a free market… that’s not an actual thing that can ever exist. It’s a state where the markets are in a perfect, frictionless state, where barriers of entry are non-existent and everyone has equal access to trade on the market… Ignoring petty things like needing to actually source things

        It is, in fact, both reasonable and desirable for the government to proactively watch and interfere in the markets before they enter a failure scenario, that’s their job in the market.

        It’s often willfully misunderstood, but what you’re describing is a half step from lasse faire capitalism. Which is the idea that a “free market” is a stable state, and we just need to let it settle long enough without interference. But that’s literally psuedoscience…