I’m not sure what happened to fast food restaurants. Yeah, sure, they were unhealthy for us but they used to taste good. Now, the portions are smaller, they cost a lot more, they have the texture of wet cardboard with sauce, and it doesn’t taste good. I guess if all you have ever known is the fast food restaurants of the last 20 years then you probably never experienced a real Big Mac or Whopper from the 70s and even to the 80s. Somewhere around the 90s shit just started falling apart. Greed right, it’s always greed.
I’m not a huge McDonalds fan, but I used to get lunch there occasionally because it was fast, convenient, and inexpensive. Now it’s none of those things. I think the self-serve kiosks somehow made things worse.
This just in: after laws and rules enacted, prison intake rates drop to 0 and nobody does anything they aren’t allowed to. Why didn’t we think of this earlier? Back to you, Tim.
It’s not like your phone or wallet are exactly clean either. Or the restaurant door, for that matter. Or the human cashier you’d be passing money to.
If something like this is a concern, just wash your hands or use some sanitizer before you eat. I struggle to imagine that kiosks caused a demonstrable increase in disease, but hey, maybe there’s some data out there.
Every McDonalds I’ve been to in the last couple years seems like it’s staffed with the most pissed off people imaginable. I mean, I get it, the job is probably horrible and they’re being underpaid. But that doesn’t justify treating seemingly everyone like shit.
I had a guy in the drive thru get full on pissed at me and yell at me because I asked for no ketchup on my burger. That’s it. It wasn’t a big order, it was a McDouble and some fries. I could understand if I had changed my order 5 times and insisted all my food be cut in the shape of Argentina or some shit, but I made a pretty basic fucking request.
There’s also frequently times when it seems like they’re trying to get past interacting with you as fast as possible and don’t give a single shit what you’re trying to say.
“Can I get a 10 piece chicken nuggets and-”
“Ok pull to the first window”
“Wait, I wasn’t done. I also want a medium fry and-”
“Okpulltothefirstwindow”
“Hang on, I want a drink too, can I g-”
“OKPULLTOTHEFIRSTWINDOW!”
I get hating your job, but why do you have to treat every customer like they are personally causing you inconvenience? Like they’re doing something wrong for having the nerve to order food at a restaurant.
A quarter pounder meal is around ten bucks, so is a cheeseburger and fries from a local restaurant or diner. The attractiveness was cheapness and now it’s not even that
No, the food really did taste better, due to the cooking process and the different ingredients that were involved.
For example, the fries were cooked in beef tallow; the meat they used was of better quality, and more nutritious. The bread was different as well—McDonald’s changed it again only a few years ago.
Or from which animal… More naturally grown meat has a completely different composition (also a much more elaborate texture) than the same meat from an animal quickly grown with a lot of growth hormones. But both are 100% beef.
i don’t see how that affects the nutrition of the beef. You can only mix so much fat in because it melts away when you fry the burger up. They aren’t using lymph nodes and such the FDA requires them to call out non meat ingredients. The beef doesn’t lose nutrients as the pieces get smaller. They weren’t using prime cuts in the 80’s, either.
Im not a dietician or a rancher, but not all beef is created equal. Being “beef” doesnt mean every cow is the same nutritionally. Its not just a ratio of muscle to fat that affects that. What cattle are fed, how they are treated/slaughtered, how much time they roam all effects the nutrients in the meat. I guarantee all of the above are worse in the cattle McDonald’s uses, even compared to the 80’s.
Nah, I know for a fact that the Whopper has been enshittified since at least the 90s. It used to be one of my favorites but now tastes like shit and costs 3x the price.
No, McD’s has publicly changed various formulations over the years. Never for the better. Even just a couple years ago when they went to “never frozen” beef for some of their sandwiches - they tasted worse IMO, but I’m sure somehow it saved McD’s money.
We’ve got a pub near us that costs about only 10 bucks more in total to carryout from there and feed my family on burgers and fries than if we go to McDs. But we get a large hand shaped patty cooked to our individual preferences, on a bun from a local bakery, generous portion of thick cut fries, and a better experience all around.
It’s insane that McD’s prices are within spitting distance of the place. The drive-thru (and its related convenience) is the one and only benefit to McDs. I have reluctantly loved McD’s for most of my life, but there’s no doubt it’s gone downhill a few times, and for sure in the past few years. If they hadn’t also jacked up their prices it wouldn’t be so bad, but it’s really hard to justify eating there now.
They’ve become as infested with corporate greed as every other company of any significant size.
I think one factor is probably “advances” in food science. Look how many ingredients go into an average fast food bun, for example… we have so many hyper-processed foods made with not just hella preservatives, but instead of wheat flour and butter it’s like wheat and corn starch, gluten, various vegetable proteins and several different oils, etc all recombined in a rather industrial way. It’s cheaper, and it’s sometimes specifically engineered to appeal to our palates, but it’s been taken too far imo. This is not just an issue in fast food by any means.
I dunno. The thing about the Big Mac is the convenience. It doesn’t really compare to actual burgers, but it’s got a distinctive taste, a handy size and no waiting time.
On the other side of the burger spectrum are the restaurant café burgers that are difficult to eat even with utensils and still taste like something you could do better yourself.
The best burgers are from some shady unknown local grill, but those are hit or miss.
Anyway my point is that the Bic Mac is a fair product, but it’s not really comparable to actual food. I’m not disappointed with it because I didn’t expect it to be different from whatever it is and sometimes that is good enough. Like, I wouldn’t want to eat a gourmet restaurant every day even if I could afford it and had the time to wait for the bill.
Tl;dr: fast food sucks because it’s not food, but fast food rules because it’s fast.
I’m not sure what happened to fast food restaurants. Yeah, sure, they were unhealthy for us but they used to taste good. Now, the portions are smaller, they cost a lot more, they have the texture of wet cardboard with sauce, and it doesn’t taste good. I guess if all you have ever known is the fast food restaurants of the last 20 years then you probably never experienced a real Big Mac or Whopper from the 70s and even to the 80s. Somewhere around the 90s shit just started falling apart. Greed right, it’s always greed.
Oh boy, guy is over here outing himself in broad daylight…
lol
Still fapping strong at least. Forever young.
I had a similar moment yesterday when I realized Anchorman came out 19 years ago.
I’m not a huge McDonalds fan, but I used to get lunch there occasionally because it was fast, convenient, and inexpensive. Now it’s none of those things. I think the self-serve kiosks somehow made things worse.
Gotta love touching something god knows how many other people touched before you right before you get some food.
You probably don’t want to see how the food is prepared, then.
They are mandated to wash their hands. Unlike the customers.
Ok, but ask yourself why there needs to be a mandate, and think of all the things that aren’t mandated.
Because we can’t get enough people to vote any other way.
This just in: after laws and rules enacted, prison intake rates drop to 0 and nobody does anything they aren’t allowed to. Why didn’t we think of this earlier? Back to you, Tim.
Okay, maybe you think health departments don’t give a shit, but they have the power to and do close restaurants for a reason.
I’ve worked in a kitchen before; I assure you, just because rules exist and random checkups occur, doesn’t mean shit.
If you think that’s bad you should see inside the soda machines.
It’s not like your phone or wallet are exactly clean either. Or the restaurant door, for that matter. Or the human cashier you’d be passing money to.
If something like this is a concern, just wash your hands or use some sanitizer before you eat. I struggle to imagine that kiosks caused a demonstrable increase in disease, but hey, maybe there’s some data out there.
Hi there!
- Door handles
Kool-aid man: my time has come
You mean something McDonalds doesn’t have?
Hi there!
- McDonalds door handle
So something you use when leaving that McDonalds? And something most McDonalds don’t even have? What’s your point?
The video clearly shows that you have to pull a door handle to enter the restaurant.
I hadn’t considered that before. Now I won’t be able to stop.
You’d hate to know how many people have touched the change you get from a store.
Is this something that I’m too 21st century to understand? Who pays in cash and coin anymore?
Which is why contactless payment exists.
It’s been years since I handled change. Tap to pay is way more sanitary.
The metals used for coinage are fairly antimicrobial. Fun fact.
Dollar bills, less so.
Yeah, McDs was a no-brainer back in the day.
The cost is absurd for value now. I’d rather go elsewhere.
Yeah the dollar menu to value menu pipeline has been nothing but disappointment.
Every McDonalds I’ve been to in the last couple years seems like it’s staffed with the most pissed off people imaginable. I mean, I get it, the job is probably horrible and they’re being underpaid. But that doesn’t justify treating seemingly everyone like shit.
I had a guy in the drive thru get full on pissed at me and yell at me because I asked for no ketchup on my burger. That’s it. It wasn’t a big order, it was a McDouble and some fries. I could understand if I had changed my order 5 times and insisted all my food be cut in the shape of Argentina or some shit, but I made a pretty basic fucking request.
There’s also frequently times when it seems like they’re trying to get past interacting with you as fast as possible and don’t give a single shit what you’re trying to say.
“Can I get a 10 piece chicken nuggets and-”
“Ok pull to the first window”
“Wait, I wasn’t done. I also want a medium fry and-”
“Okpulltothefirstwindow”
“Hang on, I want a drink too, can I g-”
“OKPULLTOTHEFIRSTWINDOW!”
I get hating your job, but why do you have to treat every customer like they are personally causing you inconvenience? Like they’re doing something wrong for having the nerve to order food at a restaurant.
A quarter pounder meal is around ten bucks, so is a cheeseburger and fries from a local restaurant or diner. The attractiveness was cheapness and now it’s not even that
Same thing that’s happening in every industry. When the objective of the company is profit, not the product, the product suffers.
I miss Welfare Wednesday. $.59 hamburgers and $.69 cheeseburgers.
29c and 39c here back in the early 90s, but couldn’t even compete at that with their next-door competitor (hardee’s) doing 25c and 35c
Ah ha! That was the old price I couldn’t remember. Go through the drive through, order like 50 of them plain, toss in freezer.
You were a child back then, which skews your memory.
I dunno, I feel like McDonald’s fries being fried in beef fat made them the big hit back in the day.
all veggie oil definitely messed up french fries… everywhere.
No, the food really did taste better, due to the cooking process and the different ingredients that were involved.
For example, the fries were cooked in beef tallow; the meat they used was of better quality, and more nutritious. The bread was different as well—McDonald’s changed it again only a few years ago.
Edit—Well, they’re changing their burgers again: wsj.com/business/hospitality/mcdonalds-burger-new-menu-2400d22b
None of the changes matter if the restaurant employees don’t give a fuck.
mcdonald’s has always used 100% pure beef in their burgers, it’s a marketing point. How is the beef less nutritious than it used to be!?
100% pure beef, yes.
Now, which part of the beef are they using?
Or from which animal… More naturally grown meat has a completely different composition (also a much more elaborate texture) than the same meat from an animal quickly grown with a lot of growth hormones. But both are 100% beef.
chuck, round and sirloin trimmings, unless they are just lying I guess. https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/faq/what-kind-of-beef-does-mcdonald-s-use-in-your-burgers.html
What grade of beef trimming? What part of the trimmings exactly? What ratio of what trimmings, and how much fat is used comapred to the rest?
Lipton is 100% “tea,” but its also the sweepings left after all the good parts of the tea leaves have been filtered out and sold as different brands.
Thats what McDonald’s is doing.
i don’t see how that affects the nutrition of the beef. You can only mix so much fat in because it melts away when you fry the burger up. They aren’t using lymph nodes and such the FDA requires them to call out non meat ingredients. The beef doesn’t lose nutrients as the pieces get smaller. They weren’t using prime cuts in the 80’s, either.
Im not a dietician or a rancher, but not all beef is created equal. Being “beef” doesnt mean every cow is the same nutritionally. Its not just a ratio of muscle to fat that affects that. What cattle are fed, how they are treated/slaughtered, how much time they roam all effects the nutrients in the meat. I guarantee all of the above are worse in the cattle McDonald’s uses, even compared to the 80’s.
Nah, I know for a fact that the Whopper has been enshittified since at least the 90s. It used to be one of my favorites but now tastes like shit and costs 3x the price.
No, McD’s has publicly changed various formulations over the years. Never for the better. Even just a couple years ago when they went to “never frozen” beef for some of their sandwiches - they tasted worse IMO, but I’m sure somehow it saved McD’s money.
We’ve got a pub near us that costs about only 10 bucks more in total to carryout from there and feed my family on burgers and fries than if we go to McDs. But we get a large hand shaped patty cooked to our individual preferences, on a bun from a local bakery, generous portion of thick cut fries, and a better experience all around.
It’s insane that McD’s prices are within spitting distance of the place. The drive-thru (and its related convenience) is the one and only benefit to McDs. I have reluctantly loved McD’s for most of my life, but there’s no doubt it’s gone downhill a few times, and for sure in the past few years. If they hadn’t also jacked up their prices it wouldn’t be so bad, but it’s really hard to justify eating there now.
They’ve become as infested with corporate greed as every other company of any significant size.
https://i.imgur.com/bRXrFk2_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand
Now I want a picture of these two next to that new and improved “Big” Mac that now looks as if it had shrunk in the drying machine, for comparison.
I got a Big Mac last week that looked like a kids meal version.
I’m sure someone here has the talent to scale it for us.
Capitalism. They need to increase profits year over year. They continuously sell less for more.
Yes, people like forget where this particular brand of greed comes from.
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Basically. When companies are allowed to pick two from
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They usually pick faster or cheaper unless competition forces them to improve quality in order to survive.
Did capitalism not exist in the 60s?
I think one factor is probably “advances” in food science. Look how many ingredients go into an average fast food bun, for example… we have so many hyper-processed foods made with not just hella preservatives, but instead of wheat flour and butter it’s like wheat and corn starch, gluten, various vegetable proteins and several different oils, etc all recombined in a rather industrial way. It’s cheaper, and it’s sometimes specifically engineered to appeal to our palates, but it’s been taken too far imo. This is not just an issue in fast food by any means.
I dunno. The thing about the Big Mac is the convenience. It doesn’t really compare to actual burgers, but it’s got a distinctive taste, a handy size and no waiting time. On the other side of the burger spectrum are the restaurant café burgers that are difficult to eat even with utensils and still taste like something you could do better yourself. The best burgers are from some shady unknown local grill, but those are hit or miss. Anyway my point is that the Bic Mac is a fair product, but it’s not really comparable to actual food. I’m not disappointed with it because I didn’t expect it to be different from whatever it is and sometimes that is good enough. Like, I wouldn’t want to eat a gourmet restaurant every day even if I could afford it and had the time to wait for the bill.
Tl;dr: fast food sucks because it’s not food, but fast food rules because it’s fast.