• Plume (She/Her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to “win” an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.

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      A “long” election campaign in the UK is 6 weeks. In 1992 they had one that was just 30 days.

      Months is plenty of time, especially in the modern world. Maybe 250 years ago it was necessary to campaign for months on end so that the candidate could personally travel by train to every state. But, with modern media (both traditional and social), there’s no real reason for campaigns to be as long as they are. The only reason they’re this long is that the thought is that the earlier you start campaigning, the better. So, each side keeps starting earlier and earlier, making it effectively into a neverending campaign cycle.

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      It’s very true. We’ve been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it’s mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.

      Y’all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.

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      Well spoken.

      A few months in politics is an eternity. Yes, things are chaotic right now, but this is short term. We can unify after this. And we can win.

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      We don’t really do coalitions here. Our voting system doesn’t allow for it.

      It does happen within Congress itself though, when different sects of the two parties cross the aisle to join with the other party on certain issues. But since Congress doesn’t elect a prime minister, it doesn’t happen for the presidency.

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        I know. You’re missing my point. :)

        My point wasn’t the coalition. My point was that we had 21 days to cobble something together and not only did we do it, we managed to win with it. It’s not about the coalition, it’s about building a campaign. You have months to do so.

        And you’re about to say that Trump had way longer to do so. Yes. So did the far right in our country, which barely even campaigned because all of the media were doing so on their behalf for the last two years and we still managed to outnumber them.

        Trust me, my faith in the Democrats is barely existent. But still, I think it can be done.

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        Because we only have a relative majority and now Macron is teaming up with the hard right (not the far right, the other right right that is not center right… Yeah, too much right is wrong) to deprive us of any path to government. Shit sucks. But it could have sucked way harder.

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          It’s also a strategic moderate move to keep the hard right from merging with Reform.

          I’m hoping the left wing parties aren’t locked out and still able to get progress made.

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            Cuddling up to the hard right might look like a strategical move but it never works. Normalising them only shifts the discussion further to the right. And let’s face it… in this post-factual time where all that matters is the narratives, giving them a platform will only help to brain-wash more people into believing right-wing fake-solutions to actual problems.

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      You, the French, have not been the target of a 40 year war against public education by the right wing. Americans are on average significantly less capable of rational thought because of it. Source: I am an American raised in the crippled education system I mentioned before.

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        It’s a bit naive to think Western Europe hasn’t been under attack from the right wing at least as long as the US has. They’ve had wars over it that never really reached US shores, and it never really went away. All of the strategies that have been used in the US were piloted and honed in Europe – look up the activities there by Manafort, Stone, Bannon, etc. all the same names who have been implementing the shit you’re seeing in the US were active in Western and Eastern Europe years before this. It’s been going on there far longer.

        It’s amazing to me that people in the US haven’t been paying attention to what’s gone on there and learning from their successes.

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    I don’t understand you people in this thread.

    Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.

    Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they’re doing? Are you for real? They’re doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They’re doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.

    Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.

    Sincerely,

    A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.

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    I’ll say just one thing:

    Every single one of you assholes who wouldn’t shut up about him stepping down since the dude missed the toilet bowl fifty years ago after a particularly wild night out better sure as fuck step up now that Old Joe has stepped down.

    A sitting god damned President of the United States has stepped aside less than half a year before reelection. Make no mistake: The man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision. Let’s honor that by creating a wall of votes so god. damned. thick. Riley Reid would gasp.

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      man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision.

      Should anyone care about his pride and ego?

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      Mike Johnson has literally already made it clear that in these circumstances he intends to CONTEST the new candidate being allowed on ballots.

      We live in the fucking stupidest ass timeline.

      The time for dropping Biden was before the fucking primaries and now we’re walking right the fuck into a Republican trap.

      Fuck me, someone just kill me now so Trump can’t institutionally fucking murder me.

      Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/johnson-replacing-biden-ticket-wrong-unlawful/story?id=112129063

      Democrats are fuckin morons who want to lose.

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        Mike Johnson is (as usual) full of shit. The DNC is still a month away and not a single state ballot deadline has passed.

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          That doesn’t mean they won’t tie this up in the courts I’ve a bogus legal theory that the Supreme Court will turn into a reality… Mark my words, unless Biden packs the court, this one is on Clarence Thomas’s desk stat

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      Yes they can. This is the right choice. Democrats will be more energized than ever now. Hopeful they keep it open to the delegates to vote at the convention after a few people step forward.

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    All I know about Harris is from a youtube short where she was just being super weird about that catchphrase of hers.

    She’s got no chance against trump and his cult of personality. Noone’s going to be passionate about her.

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      She’s a nothing-burger. If she is the candidate, we have all the same problems, except we don’t have a reasonable excuse for why she can’t speak coherently. But it’s her turn!

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    That’s the end of it all

    Edit: wow I got banned from this community for this comment.

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    Y’all gonna get real sick of me, but I dont think it matters, even if she does win it.

    If anything, this will supercharge the racist bigots into political violence. I hope to God they aren’t numerous enough to cause any serious damage, but Jan 6 is all the evidence we need to see just how horrible MAGAts are.

    I will vote Kamala. I will start spreading the news, and get everyone I can behind her. Because it’s anyone vs a Nazi. We don’t have a choice. The Nazis must not come back to power.

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    Fair amount of schadenfreude at the panic right now, having been shouted down for weeks for telling people they should stop self-indulgently and anxiously begging Biden to step aside, since he already beat Trump and has gained a lot of allies through progressive legislation.

    I’m very curious who the DNC is going to dredge up since the only person who could unite the left is Bernie Sanders and the DNC has previously explicitly declined him.

    Enjoy laying in the bed you’ve made, every short-sighted doofer who asked for this.

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    Makes me giggly thinking of all the comments about how his age was a nothingburger

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    Goddammit.

    I’m just going to say it. They can’t put Harris up. Not because she’s lacking in any political skills, she isn’t, but there are far too many swing voters that will sit on their hands or vote for trump if the Dems try to put up a woman who also happens to be African American as the nominee. There’s still too much prejudice and misogyny that wants an old white man over anyone else. She’s been far too quiet as VP to build any sort of following. The press will pull a Hillary on her, the clueless SJW in the Dems will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because they’d rather have a woman run than win an election. I’ll vote for anyone they put up, but I sure as hell hope they can put someone up that the swing voters will show up for too.

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    Its extremely worrying he didnt announce who is replacing him. This election might wnd up being decided by the supreme court after republicans challenge the replacement in the courts

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    To every one of you in here who spent the last year defending him: shut the fuck up. It was obvious he is a senile segregationist piece of garbage. You need to reevaluate all your political opinions.