Can I note that Data served many years in Starfleet prior to the start of TNG? He wasn’t activated the day before the Encounter at Farpoint mission started. He would have had years of experience working with humans by that point.
Sure, but in an ensemble cast I doubt that he would have had an in-depth back story given him prior to the episode where they find Lore and reveal that Data has all the colonists’ memories, etc.
Agreed. I think Enterprise was the first time people collectively treated Data like anything other than a machine. A case of nurture when is came to the professional culture of Picard’s command.
Then Pulaski comes onboard from another ship and immediately regards him as a walking computer. This was probably the first time Data stood up for himself as well. Over time, Pulaski adopted the respect the rest of the crew had for him.
I mean maybe not, but I find it hard to believe he’d get promoted to lieutenant commander if he couldn’t lead. So people had to have trusted him, like the guy eventually did in the episode where he had command of that ship.
heh. Pretty sure a rock with googly eyes would be a better leader than half the Admiralty. Just saying. plenty of turdlings getting promoted who shouldn’t have been. And plenty more were promoted merely on competence with little regard for leadership.
He also got plenty of awards for bravery and courage. There are tons of socially awkard leaders. Like Gen. Sherman (union army, civil war,) Brilliant tactician, socially worse than the average redditor.
(anybody else remember pet rocks from the 90’s? those were fun.)
I mean, just as examples, we’re talking about an organization that put civilian families- including children- onto ships that are routinely attacked or otherwise facing casualties.
And let’s not talk about OSHA standards that clearly don’t exist. Virtually every non-combat casualty of been prevented with a modicum of regard for safety (wearing PPE, having a safety plan that includes questions like “what could go wrong”, and addresses them, etc)(let’s not talk about seatbelts and surge protectors,)
Or that JAG admiral who failed to even consider a legal test to determine data’s sentience- a legal test that not only would literally have to exist, but be taught to basically everyone in starfleet; because the prime directive requires that they not fuck with sentient life.
Can I note that Data served many years in Starfleet prior to the start of TNG? He wasn’t activated the day before the Encounter at Farpoint mission started. He would have had years of experience working with humans by that point.
To be fair, did any of us have great social skills for the first decade or two after activation?
Fair point. Quite a few people never develop those skills.
Sure, but in an ensemble cast I doubt that he would have had an in-depth back story given him prior to the episode where they find Lore and reveal that Data has all the colonists’ memories, etc.
No you may not.
Damn.
Yes, but the crews didn’t accept him as much as enterprise crew did, making it hard for him ti experience and grow.
Agreed. I think Enterprise was the first time people collectively treated Data like anything other than a machine. A case of nurture when is came to the professional culture of Picard’s command.
Then Pulaski comes onboard from another ship and immediately regards him as a walking computer. This was probably the first time Data stood up for himself as well. Over time, Pulaski adopted the respect the rest of the crew had for him.
Just too bad she fell down that turbolift shaft.
Picard summarily dismissed the claims that Data pushed her.
Of course. We all know Data was merely holding the door for Picard.
I mean maybe not, but I find it hard to believe he’d get promoted to lieutenant commander if he couldn’t lead. So people had to have trusted him, like the guy eventually did in the episode where he had command of that ship.
heh. Pretty sure a rock with googly eyes would be a better leader than half the Admiralty. Just saying. plenty of turdlings getting promoted who shouldn’t have been. And plenty more were promoted merely on competence with little regard for leadership.
He also got plenty of awards for bravery and courage. There are tons of socially awkard leaders. Like Gen. Sherman (union army, civil war,) Brilliant tactician, socially worse than the average redditor.
(anybody else remember pet rocks from the 90’s? those were fun.)
Aren’t we talking about Star Trek? Most of the admirals are pretty competent in ST, when they aren’t being occupied by an invading force or something.
I mean, just as examples, we’re talking about an organization that put civilian families- including children- onto ships that are routinely attacked or otherwise facing casualties.
And let’s not talk about OSHA standards that clearly don’t exist. Virtually every non-combat casualty of been prevented with a modicum of regard for safety (wearing PPE, having a safety plan that includes questions like “what could go wrong”, and addresses them, etc)(let’s not talk about seatbelts and surge protectors,)
Or that JAG admiral who failed to even consider a legal test to determine data’s sentience- a legal test that not only would literally have to exist, but be taught to basically everyone in starfleet; because the prime directive requires that they not fuck with sentient life.
Imagine how awkward he must have been at the start.
That actually would have been a great flashback sequence that I’m sorry they never did.
Well he started with refusing to wear clothes so much Soong had to hardcode an anti nudity patch.