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    It’s crazy how women say, “I don’t feel safe around men” and then men scream, “But not all men!!1!!1 I didn’t do it! Not me!!!” like why do y’all act like you’ve been wronged when women don’t want to be raped and assaulted? Stop making it about yourself.

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    It’s a sad reality, but women literally risk life and limb by meeting a strange man. Dating platforms are crawling with predators, when one is identified it can take weeks or months to remove the account. Be patient out there gentlemen.

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        Wait… Because so many of them turned out to be predators?.. On the first date? Like it was THAT common?

        How many times did you have to step in and stop things?

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          The stats on these things exist.

          But nobody likes to talk about them, because they don’t line up with the ‘men are all evil’ narrative.

          Women are way more likely to get assaulted by someone already in their life than a random stranger. That stat makes people VERY uncomfortable. Much harder to imagine your uncle or your co-worker will assault you than some random guy on the street…

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          I never had to actually step in for her. She’d just casually mention I was a friend, or introduce me, if things weren’t good. Apparently, that settled things down.

          We would occasionally get people who couldn’t take a hint and we’d tossed them out when there were a complaints.

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          I’ve heard total horror stories from exes and friends. First date weirdos and creeps are absolutely a common thing. Never hurts to be safe, especially in such a non-obtrusive way!

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            I feel like weirdo, creepy, and predator, are three different terms. I kinda like weirdos, the other two not so much. Predators are the worst.

            I think the internet and the collecting of anecdotes that everyone probably has (I have some), can sometimes construct a self-selecting criteria that paints the world to sound worse than it is.

            I just sometimes worry that online, or in anecdotes we’re using a selection criteria that takes humanity, and make the worst of it stand out to the point nothing is worth doing, no one is worth sparing or dating.

            Of course there are unambiguous cases of horrible predators. But here’s to the weirdos and even some of the creeps, may your social skills dramatically improve through the stories you ended up in, and may you never lose your way and become predators.

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              I think it was fairly clear from what I said about “horror stories” that I didn’t mean harmless and fun weird people.

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        That’s a good strategy. The first time I met my wife in person, she arranged to have a friend call and check in and give her excuse to bounce if things weren’t’ right.

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    Holy shit, ad blockers are a thing, people. ublock origin and SponsorBlock for a safer, happier life! Browsing anything without blockers is akin to dripping dimethyl mercury on your genitalia, crossing your fingers, and wildly hoping for the best.

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      “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them“

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          If the take is “men don’t care and women are picky” then it’s a boomer joke. But it’s Cyanide and Happiness, soooo…

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          I must’ve missed that part. Where does it say that only single men commit rape? Oh right it doesn’t. But you got defensive…. Which is suspect to say the least.

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            Its Cyanide and Happiness. The comics history means we can safely assume the dark humor version is probably what they were going for.

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              I always forget that going over the top with exaggeration will fly over the heads of the angriest people.

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            Where does it say that only single men commit rape

            You mean the punchline?

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              That’s not the punchline. The audience doesn’t even know if the man on the laptop is a rapist, could be a stand up dude. The punchline is that you can’t market sex to women the same way you market sex to men. Why? Well maybe you should ask a woman.

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                Knowing this comic series, I think the punchline is that it guns up controversy and people waste effort arguing about it.

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                She’s locking the door. There’s more implication than failing to sell sex to women there

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            It was a joke, maybe you have heard of them?

            I’ve been married for two decades and just thought it would be funny if someone read way too much into the singles part. It isn’t like BTK, Trump, and other married rapists aren’t well known.

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      In college, I saw a sign that said something like 1 in 6 women will be sexually assaulted. Based on conversations with women around me and my own experiences, I’m pretty sure it’s actually 6 in 6 women.

      Before you get upset, yes, I am aware men get assaulted too. That’s not okay either.

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        I agree with this. Problem is that it is not done by most men, but this post makes it seem like most of them do or want to.

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          Interesting. I interpreted it differently.

          I saw it as women experience assault at such high levels, that they feel unsafe around strangers.

          Whereas, men see it as an exciting opportunity, full of possibilities. Not necessarily that they intend to commit assault.

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          This post makes it seem that women need to prepare for assault even if not everyone will assault them.

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      Women would literally rather be stuck with a bear rather than a man they do not know. So, is it sexism? Or is there a fundamental problem (read patriarchy) that makes women scared of men.

      Do you think it’s sexist to report that men commit 90% of all rape and sexual assault?

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        That is way more than just patriarchal society. If a woman would rather be stuck in a room with a bear than a man she doesn’t know, there’s something psychologically wrong with that woman.

        The only way you’d choose a bear over a stranger is if you have a prejudice that all men are violent or rapists. Because the bear will most likely kill you.

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        Its about as sexist to say that, as it is racist to spout crime statistics about black people without solution.

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          Okay not sexist at all then. Because there’s nothing racist about crime statistics about black people.

          What people might do or say in regards to those statistics is typically where the racism comes in.

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            In a thread where the discussion is men, spouting statistics without solution is prejudicial.

            Just like it would be racist to do the same thing with black people.

            You’re being purposefully ignorant of the current thread we are in.

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              Oof. I really shouldn’t have to explain the systemic difference between the two.

              Also once again, this comic is making the joke that a strange man could be a rapist, and that women are not interested in strange men the same way men may be interested strange women - not that all single men are rapists.

              You’re purposefully conflating this comic to the level of hating men, and then to the level of using crime statistics to perpetuate systemic racism. Brother you’ve lost the plot.

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                Is the patriarchy not a systemic issue?

                Bringing up statistics without a solution is problematic, to say the very least.

                If you have issue with that statement, then you may need to rethink your approach.

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                  YES! We’re getting to the same page. The difference is the patriarchy defends itself. I’ve never seen a black person fight to defend systemic racism.

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        So if I am being an asshole, I should make the “logical” jump that all single women are whores and sluts because majority of prostitutes are women.

        Not all men and not all women. Generalising is never good.

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          Yes you are being an asshole thanks for noticing. Also wtf are you on about - no where does it say “ALL SINGLE MEN ARE RAPIST.”

          You saw yourself in this comic and got defensive - that “whores and sluts” line came naturally to you.

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            This is the same reaction that I had when I saw the post that says “men are rapists”. I got offended.

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            Lmao, so it’s only an asshole move when men do it. Gotcha. If I’m an asshole no matter what, then you’re a fucking cunt who probably had or would have had her gross face pasted on the Tea app leak.

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              Ah there you are - this was never about defending men, this was about hating women. Also I’m a man lol

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                  Jeez dude you just don’t get it. There isn’t anything wrong with defending men but this comic doesn’t hate men. You thinking it does is part of the problem. This comic isn’t saying that all single men are rapists - hell we don’t even know if the single man they are showing is a rapist. What we, and women, do know is that men commit almost all SA. It’s a fact. The comic is playing into the fact that they market sex at men by saying “look strange women” and men fuck with it. Saying “look strange men” to women doesn’t typically illicit the same response.

                  The fact that you are so upset kinda makes me think you might be represented by this comic.

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      This is like saying that recognizing gay people are assaulted more often is homophobic

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      It takes five minutes to find data that shows that this is very much not sexism.

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          Number of dangerous outcomes when meeting a new person in a date by gender.

          Violent crime by gender.

          Rape events by gender.

          Domestic break and entering by gender.

          Pick your favorite?

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            Entirely skewed data because there is massive underreporting and discarding of men’s thoughts and emotions when the reverse happens.

            Because of bitches like you.

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              Because of bitches like you.

              I’m a man, you moron. Care to provide any proof that data being reliably collected all across the world, using peer reviewed methodology, is flawed? That’s some bold claim. I’d love to see you prove violent crime rates between men and women are actually secretly the same.

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                Not the same sure, but I have a violent ex and it turns out she actually got one of her exes convicted by faking or possibly creating injuries to herself. Of the men she’s been violent with, nobody has reported her to the police. I know I haven’t. I don’t wanna be convicted of assault lol.

                She proudly tells people how she abused me and I couldn’t do shit because I don’t hurt women, and I couldn’t leave her because she lied about being on the pill to get pregnant so she could abuse me financially too. Took me a while till I realized I can just take the baby and leave if I don’t wanna be a deadbeat. Equal parental rights.

                This kind of shit doesn’t get reported. You’re not a man in the eyes of police if you go report it. You’re a pussy and deserve it. Now CPS though? VERY familiar with her, I’ve gotten multiple people to tell them what’s up.

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                Sure, let me see your counterpoint that you wrote then instead of something you found.

                Oh you can’t ?

                That’s right because you’re a double standards cunt.

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            I 100% agree with this data. Men commit more crimes of this nature than women. Problem is not with the data. Problem is that this data is not directly relevant here.

            Most such crimes are committed by men but most men don’t commit such crimes. And the post implies that most men do.

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              And the post implies that most men do.

              Not really. The image (which might I remind you is a comic strip, not some article published on Science or an opinion piece on the New York Times) implies that women feel very differently about “random strangers of the opposite sex near you right now!” than men do.

              And that’s true, precisely because of the data you just agreed is valid. If I say to a guy friend “dude you’re not going to believe this, we were invited to a party with 50 girls and we will be the only two men!” he’ll have a profoundly different reaction than if a girl heard from a friend “girl you’re not going to believe this, we were invited to a party with 50 men and we will be the only two girls!”. It doesn’t matter to them, at this point, “oH nOt AlL MeN aRe DaNGeRoUs” what matters is that they’d be in a inherently more dangerous position than men would be in the opposite scenario.

              The comic strip is noticing the difference in gut feeling and reaction, not proposing a thesis on men’s criminality.

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              And the post implies that most men do.”

              I don’t agree this is the implication. The comic is juxtaposing how men might see a bunch of single women as an opportunity whereas women might see a bunch of single men as a threat. It doesn’t have to be all or even most men in that group for the threat to be real.

              Also how is the data not relevant? The data is literally quantifying the problem this comic is addressing: this is a problem that disproportionately victimizes women and the perpetrators are often men, by a large margin. That is literally the basis for why the woman is unsettled whereas the man is relatively carefree.

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      You’ve fallen for the classic blunder.

      By jumping in and commenting, you have proven them right in their minds.

      It’s a thought terminating trap. Women are allowed to call out sexism when they see it against themselves, whereas men are not allowed to call out sexism when they see it against themselves.

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        One user called me a rapist for this. Like wtf. How anything defending men can be converted to men are rapist pigs, is fascinating.