• pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip
    12·
    2 days ago

    The TRN was a label put on by the manufacturer of the bullets, which they decided stood for “trans”. There was also a reference to a video game that consisted of a series of arrows, they decided the up and right arrows stood for male to female, then ignored all the other arrows.

    Brilliant people working on this case, I’ll tell ya what.

  • philosloppy@lemmy.world
    1441·
    3 days ago

    “transgender ideology” is not a thing. That’s the type of shit transphobes pull out of their ass when they’re trying to attack trans folks

    • Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca
      67·
      3 days ago

      I think transgender ideology is “we’re human”.

      It’s fucking wild that the Right can be opposed to human rights and anti-fascism and millions of people are somehow still gaslit in believing they’re the good guys.

      • qarbone@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        3 days ago

        It’s this exact point for me. “Antifascist” is being taken at face value and simultaneously being tarred as antisocial rhetoric. What the actual fuck has gone on? If the belief that “antifascist” is a cover or a dogwhistle, then shouldn’t you attempt to separate their political orientation away from those words? “They aren’t antifascist. They are political dissidents claiming all of their political enemies are ‘fascists’.”

        Instead, we have: “No, they ARE antifascists and they are our enemies!” Why did we let them stigmatize the word “antifascist”?

    • apftwb@lemmy.world
      23·
      2 days ago

      I can see something engraved like “uwu” be interpreted that way by MSM.

      EDIT: CALLED IT! “Notices bulges OwO”

      • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
        6·
        2 days ago

        Clowns all of them.

        Apparently the bullets did have some engravings, but they said benign shit like “Here fascist, catch!” and “If you read this, you are gay LMAO”, but nothing antifa or trans related

      • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        48·
        2 days ago

        On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with “transgender and anti-fascist ideology” engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.

        This is statement from the WSJ

        • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
          10·
          2 days ago

          They’re walking back a claim that was so stupid that it could only be made up by a conspiracy theory idiot.

          Yet they made it. Top notch US journalism here people

          Now they’re somewhat walking it back but that doesn’t matter, that walking back part will be ignored, the damage has been done

  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
    57·
    3 days ago

    The backpedaling on the WSJ’s lie has begun:

    On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with “transgender and anti-fascist ideology” engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    2061·
    3 days ago

    Breaking News: the entire text of The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood was found to be engraved on bullet casings left at the scene, according to a source. So we should ban that book from all schools, fr fr.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1532·
    3 days ago

    Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi’s alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.

      • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        542·
        3 days ago

        Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence to make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.

        • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          33·
          3 days ago

          So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.

          • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            102·
            3 days ago

            Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.

            • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              25·
              3 days ago

              “Clearly trained”. No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I’ve hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).

              I’m seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it’s a hard shot. It’s not.

              • ngdev@lemmy.zipEnglish
                4·
                3 days ago

                an average golfer could pretty much do that with a golf club and a golf ball lol 200 yards is not far

            • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish
              20·
              3 days ago

              A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional… He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it’s literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.

        • Cid Vicious@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          15·
          3 days ago

          I’m not saying this is the case, but it is very possible that if this person purchased the rifle legally, they believe that the purchase will be traceable back to them and that they will almost certainly be caught. So they could have acted with the mindset that they would be throwing away their own life.

          • Nougat@fedia.io
            22·
            3 days ago

            The casing doesn’t leave the rifle until you pull the bolt back. Also, 100 yards (300 feet).

            e: I’m now hearing 200 yards.

          • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
            11·
            3 days ago

            The cartridge casing exists to form a seal against the breach end of the barrel. It doesn’t go anywhere. It just expands slightly from the high pressure gases inside, preventing those gases from escaping out the back, propelling the bullet forward with as much pressure as possible.

        • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
          3·
          3 days ago

          There is no tracking danger from engravings, other than establishing a message, and then seeing if future suspect might agree with the message.

          In this case, it’s more likely that a fascist loving employee of fascism may want to project more ammunition for fascism.

      • Jaysyn@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 days ago

        The casing that the shooter took with them?

        Why leave rifle full of them & not leave the one you fired?

        • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          The rifle is bolt action. The spent casing was still chambered.

          I do find it interesting that DOJ lawyers have been seeking the death penalty for Mangione, and linchpin of their case is that he inspired other shooters – something that until recently was openly laughable.
          Adding that the story of the supposed writing on the bullets is based on a memo that circulated at the FBI and it’s unknown if that memo was based on accurate information or just the figment of someone’s imagination to create a narrative that people will now just accept as fact.

            • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
              1·
              2 days ago

              I’m not sure which part has been debunked. Do you have a link on that?

              The news is now widely reporting the bullet casings were inscribed with some ridiculously long messages. (For a bullet casing, anyway. It seems like a lot of words to me.)

              [Utah Governor, Brian] Cox said that there were inscriptions on the casings of the fired bullet and three unfired ones. The fired bullet casing contained the inscription, “Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” An unfired bullet casing read, “Hey fascist, catch!” And a second unfired casing read, “oh bella ciao, bella cio, bella ciao, ciao, ciao.” A third unfired casing said, “If you read this, you are gay.”
              CBS News