In case you still thought the sports industry isn’t evil…
Practically all sports stars are perfectly happy to advertise and work with scummy companies (like aforementioned gambling companies), and countries like Israel or UAE. As long as they’re paid nice money.
Same for sports events. They’ll all happily take money to advertise billionaire pedophiles’ companies or terror states.
It’s almost impossible to spend any money on sports-related events or merchandise without supporting gambling or contributing towards genocide. Maybe some local ones? Maybe…?
All I needed to know was to pay attention to the terminology and optics of NFL drafts and the power dynamics following it. The fact that those in power are a-okay with problematic stuff like that, strongly suggests they have skewed ethics and likely apply that ethos everywhere.
If you can’t watch a sport without a wager, then you’re into gambling, not sports.
How exciting is horse racing on its own? (It isn’t)
I fucking love horse racing man, and no i dont gamble (anymore lol)
doing it or watching it?
Watching, or going to the racetrack is awesome, i love going to the stables and seeing the horses before they race, but i watch on TV too.
Yup, I fell into the sports gambling world for a few years. I originally just played fantasy football and thought it was fun then quickly started gambling on each fantasy season which then just became gambling each game and then became gambling on sports I didn’t watch like golf.
I was able to break the addiction but I cannot watch any sports anymore do to a fear of falling into that all again. Its actually nice to not to give a fuck about these rich athletes anymore and just enjoying things I can do.
I watch only torrents of sporting events and all the commercials are removed.
It’s amazing 99% of the time. 1% of the time I discover the result prematurely.
Which reminds me, time to watch game 1 of the Stanley Cup Finals after I hit send, or I’ll blunder across the results.
I’m a straight old dude and I don’t enjoy sports or gambling.
Bit fruity. Happy Pride!
It’s crazy how normalized gambling became the last 10 or so years.
It used to be really hard to gamble legally. Now it’s hard to find someone not pushing “legal gambling” everywhere. Meanwhile, we still can’t smoke weed in some parts of the world? What?
Back when we wore onions on our belts sports betting was related to the mafia. Bookies were low level operators, and people who owed money got their legs broken.
Some things never change.
Yeah I thought the onion belts would go out of style by now but here we are today and I’m still as stylish as ever
It got intentionally normalized by the Grand Old Party of Christian Family Values because it is very profitable.
Gambling will save the economy after the AI bubble bursts! /s
And that’s one of several reasons Las Vegas is dying.
Let’s all cut cablw TV.
Oh wait, I already did.
The only reason I have cable TV is it was literally cheaper to get it packaged with my Internet than just getting the Internet alone.
My internet and cable are provided for free by my complex. I never even plugged the cable box in.
Interesting backwards.
For me it’s literally cheaper to pay for cable than buy the sports subscriptions. I don’t watch sports, thus I don’t have cable.
Yea man I barely see any beer commercials anymore. Won’t anyone think of the alcohol companies??
I switched to UK streams of F1 for this exact reason. It’s out of hand.
I just paid for F1TV via an Indian Apple account. Very cheap and better commentary than SkySports. Plus it has extra analysis videos.
I stopped watching F1 2 or 3 races in this year. has it improved? the constant pass and repass is boring and not what F1 is supposed to be in my opinion.
It’s still that sadly, they tried fixing it with new rules mid season and it slightly got better but it’s still the same more or less
that’s a shame, truly. it is what it is. there plenty of more interesting series like WEC and IMSA and WRC I think are more fun to watch at this point.
Sports betting is huge in the UK though.
But its advertising is regulated even if the industry itself is allowed to do whatever they want outside of the advertising restrictions.
So you won’t get constantly blasted for advertisements to bet while watching.
Huh, interesting. I didn’t know that. I thought it was similar to Australia, where the betting services do advertise.
They can advertise, they’re just not so in-your-face and will have links to Gamble Aware as part of the advert.
I think they can only advertise after the watershed which will be in the evenings. So for a live event during the day they can’t advertise.
I will forever be thankful for a cruise I went on when I was in my teens.
There were unrestricted gambling slot machines, I had 20SEK, I started gambling at one machine, and won! I tripled my money, so I had 60SEK.
Instead of being sensible and buying snacks, I gambled more later, and lost it all.
It was not a large amount of money, but it still stings, and have put me off of gambling ever since.
It was probably the best return I have ever gotten from any money.
This is like my gambling story, except I just lost $60 on a slot machine in ten minutes and wondered why people thought this was fun.
Alex Trebek said that gambling had no appeal for him.
If he won $100.00 it didn’t make any difference in his life, and if he lost $100.00 he felt like an idiot.
I once got 20x the payout from a slot machine in a pub when I was in my teens. Thought i would never be this lucky again, withdraw the winnings and spend it all by buying a Gameboy game. Never spend any money on gambling again in my life.
What put me off from gambling at an early age was trying to get a porygon in the original Pokemon Red Version.
Also, I played a lot of casino minigames in the Mario64 DS remake. I did alright at some but it definitely taught me that you can never truly predict the outcomes, so don’t bet with anything you don’t mind losing.
As an adult though, I literally never felt the desire to actually gamble with real money. That sounds idiotic.
I really like the slot machines that occasionally blow you up in Borderlands 2.
Gotta get those inventory upgrades!
Gamblers: I love the thrill that I could lose it all!
Gamers: RNGesus is a punk ass bitch
I’d say that’s 20SEK well spent to learn a valuable lesson.
Brother took me to a casino for my 21st birthday. I did a bit of research, so I only took in $40 and left my atm card at home.
I wanted to play the cool looking slot machines. Brother convinced me that roulette was going to be way more fun. It was a busy night, so it took almost an hour to get a spot at the table. And the minimum bet was $10. Roughly 3 min after finally getting to bet, I’d lost all $40, having not won a single time (even my bets on the colors failed).
It was so utterly disappointing, especially when the next person in our party got to the table and managed to keep their bets going for over an hour and left with a few hundred extra $ that night. Most of the night was me just standing around bored out of my mind.
I’m very thankful for that early experience. Later experiences were better, but also far more tempting. I attribute my ability to resist the temptation largely to how shitty that first night was.
This is also my gambling story! I also lost money to those slots on a ship as a teenager. Although it was a ferry to England, not a cruise. But I haven’t gambled since.
I don’t gamble often but when I do I treat it as an entertainment expense. I can budget $60 to going to a casino or for buying tickets to something. When the $60 is gone I am done.
It’s all about $/hr of entertainment value.
That said I haven’t really been gambling for 20 years.
My trick is to try to separate “winnings” from the amount planned for gambling. I look at it as how much to spend for time of entertainment. The idea would be to try to only lose the original 20SEK you started with and try to move the over 40SEK into the other pants pocket.
It’s not always easy, and it’s harder with the stupid electronic cards that I’m sure track your profitability.
I’m really hoping that legislation will be in place to curb this sort of thing by the time my kids are old enough to want to watch sports. I’m not thrilled at the prospect of those ads marinating in their young brains, and I don’t relish the thought of trying to explain to a credulous 8-year-old that we can’t win millions of dollars betting on hockey games.
Hoping is different than expecting, unfortunately.
What you’re hoping for is that governments go back to protecting people instead of being used by the rich to transfer wealth from the citizenry.
Everyone knows gambling has zero social benefit and does a lot of harm. But none of that matters because you can show up to a few congressmen with a few thousand dollars and they’ll do what you tell them, and no other congress critters will get in their way because every other congresscritter wants support for their grifts.
Government is working hard to find a million ways to redistribute wealth upward. Public advertising of gambling is just one more sign of corruption.
But you can win it’s practically gaurenteed!
-Ads.
Seriously, why don’t these things have warnings on them like cigarettes. I see ads for the local casino that say stuff like “riches are just 3 exits down,” it’s crazy. Should also say “GAMBLING IS ADDICTIVE AND YOU WILL LOSE MONEY” or something.
They do have that in Australia
But of course, they rely on people thinking “yeah, but that won’t happen to me because I’m somehow different”
They’re obviously the dumbest
As Dr Karl says: gambling is a tax for being bad at math
Nah, ads should just not be allowed to lie in any form whatsoever.
Yes, this includes Redbull if it does not actually give you functional wings.
I never understood how people can enjoy gambling or be addicted to it.
Yeah I get that it’s exciting, but spending money on actual goods and services can be exciting too.
If you find gambling using a $1000 exciting, wouldn’t using that $1000 on other things be even more exciting?
Winning money is only fun because said money can be used for fun. It wouldn’t really be a problem if it was points instead of currency. If what gives gambling its excitement is spending your winnings, just spend money from the get go.
Idk, I just don’t get it.
It’s “intermittent” or “unpredictable reward” coupled with the addict’s brain wiring. The thrill and relief of a win is addictive.
If you’re not wired that way you simply aren’t going to “get it”, same as not really understanding any other addiction - at least in any way other than intellectually.
This is like the complete opposite feeling I had the one time I went to Vegas. I played slots for all of an hour and I felt sick at all the money I flushed down the drain, even though I ended up pretty much breaking even. I spent the rest of the time there just wandering the strip people watching and taking in the sights.
Slots (or gambling) are ok as long as the user understands that you’re gonna lose, you go with a set amount of money, and once the money is gone you’re done.
Then you’re ok, you’re paying for the “entertainment” of the game and the chance of the win, again, if once the money is gone you’re done.
No fretting over the loss. It’s a reasoned choice, and doesn’t hurt anyone.
But like alcohol or other drugs it can turn bad for some people.
If you very much dislike the idea of dumping money into that form of entertainment and would rather spend it on shows, nice food, and experiences like that, great! That’s what works for you, and for most of us is far more satisfying choice.
Same, but many people are wired very, very differently from you and I here.
The diversity of the human mind is truly the most wonderful and terrifying thing about our species.
Gambling addiction is about the high like any other addiction. It comes down to brain chemistry, and personality. There’s the high from anticipation, and a second from the payoff just like every addiction. Gambling is just easier than most because it’s money, something we all have to use. Like food addiction, it’s something we all need to consume.
It’s basically a skinner box + the unknown, if I spend $1000 then I’ve spent $1000, but if I gamble $1000, I could win all this money, or I could lose it all, no one knows, and every time it’s new + dangerous. It also just ruins your perspective/ respect for money, because if you gained/lost 20k in an afternoon, what are you going to do go back to working for $20 an hour for half a year for what you made/spent in 2 hours?
It’s the variable reward that does it. That’s also true for animals. Give a pigeon a button that when pressed gives sometimes nothin or some food and they go haywire and become addicted to pressing the button.
Then the money men saw it works the same in humans. Hence loot box mechanics everywhere. Press bottom and get variable reward. Whaddya know, some folks are really susceptible to this and hit that button like a pigeon.
Sports betting is the same, but with the illusion of skill around it.
Give a pigeon a button that when pressed gives sometimes nothin or some food and they go haywire and become addicted to pressing the button.
My dog goes nuts when I’m in one particular part of the kitchen because her treats are in one of the drawers, even though 9/10 times I’m doing something other than getting a treat for her. The payout is often enough that she puts on a show to try and get a treat out of me lol
I don’t gamble, I just buy pallets of equipment at auction in the hopes that I can resell it for a profit.
I dont gamble, I just bid on abandoned storage units and hope for the best.
I don’t gamble, I just spend thousands of dollars and several years on an education and hope I will be able to make more in the future and be able to support my family.
That’s different though,
Both gotcha games and loot boxes start with the user wanting to use money to get items. The chance factor is just there to mask the cost since the user might just get a rare on their first try.
My point was gambling to win money isn’t like normal addiction cause you already start with what you want.
I guess it just taps into greed and the desire to always have more? Why spend the $1000 when that can become $2000? Wonder if gambling is more of a problem in our capitalistic system as we are all trained to be as greedy as possible.
you don’t get a real gambling addiction from losing, you get it from that one proper win. get lucky winning 50-60k once (average yearly salery, for working class american) and it really fucks with how you view your own time. why would you spend 30-40hr a week all year just to make that again?
Oooh, that’s an interesting psychological study! You could asses people’s gambling tendencies and their political leanings, and look for a negative correlation between communism and gambling!
We used to play poker when I was at university, but because we were all nerds we used to play for Pokémon cards.
It is fun but playing for money is a really bad idea because even if it’s all amicable and no one actually cheats it will still result in one person being happy with the outcome and everyone else being mad at them.
But I’m with you I’m much rather just spend money that I own rather than take a risk on it especially because I can do the odds. I’ve often thought I would rather play the stock markets than in a casino, the odds are better because there is actually an element of skill involved.
I’ve been gambling before and it was fun when I won money. The thing is I know how, with few exceptions with games like poker and blackjack (and only then if you’re skilled), you will ALWAYS lose more money than you win over long enough of a time period.
I’m a big, walking math machine, though, so I’ve been the person getting a little too tipsy at the roulette table and telling everyone exactly how probability works and that numbers are never “hot”. The roulette dealer was surprisingly amused.
I think it’s because they think they’ll win more money. I’d be happy having fun while getting money at the same time.
Reading your comment, I’m imagining that the “likes gambling” trait has much overlap with the “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” trait. These are people who do not get excited from regular purchases because regular purchases do not strike them as a way to get out of their temporarily embarrassed rut.
I swear half of these gambling websites end their ads with “this is not a gambling website”. I’ve never looked into in (because fuck that I’m not going on those sites) but I assume it’s some mobile game shit where you buy gems or something and can’t actually win anything tangible.
Fun fact: you CAN win money because they operate in a legal gray area calling themselves “prediction markets”.
Basically you buy percentage shares in an outcome and if that outcome happens all of those that bought the shares get a payout. At least that’s my understanding of it.
Do I do it? Fuck no.
Do I know more than a few people that do? Literally more than half of my coworkers do and a few people in my friend group do.
Bonus “fun” fact: they’re not limited to just gambling. If you managed to miss it, not too long ago people were gambling on events in the Iran War.
If it wasn’t obvious I’m very much against this practice. Shit’s fucked.
Prediction markets is a fancy term for gambling and they exist because that type of gambling was legalized.
They want to deny it is gambling to avoid laws that directly reference gambling by name just like ‘ride sharing’ is taxis but doesn’t want to follow laws that use the word ‘taxi’ in the text. Oh, and to trick gambling addicts into gambling.
The last time I looked, there were also legal casinos using a similarly transparent schtick.
What they do is that you don’t directly win money from gambling. Everything is presented as if it’s related to a sweepstakes, because sweepstakes are a legal version of gambling.
It works something like, you can pay to get entries in a sweepstakes, and I think you can even gamble with your sweepstakes entries to try to get more entries. Then because you entered the sweepstakes, you automatically win, and the sweepstakes pays out in fake money like gems. Then you can also gamble with the fake money. Finally, the casinos will buy the fake money from you using real money.
I may not have gotten this explanation exactly right, but it’s in the ballpark.
They push that phrase so hard because it is gambling. They’re trying to skirt the legal definition, but the common sense definition would disagree.
Its not about spending money, its about anticipation and excitement. It turns something that people enjoy like watching sport, and gives a personal investment. It goes from, “id like carolina to win” to “it means something to me if Carolina wins.”
People who are addicted to gambling arent gambling to buy things. Theyre addicted to gambling. Theyre gambling so they can gamble more. Its like people who are addicted to drugs. Eventually the soft stuff doesnt hit like it used to, and the need bigger doses or harder drugs. They need to win more money, so they can gamble more money.
I just can’t imagine pulling something like cable TV into your home intentionally.
Imagine paying for TV that has tons of ads in it.
During a brief period when Youtube’s anti-adblocker tech was one step ahead of my adblockers, I had to watch 20 seconds of an ad before I could skip it. And that alone was filling me with a dangerous amount of rage. (The only thing it made me want to buy was lots of explosives.) I really don’t understand how people tolerate watching normie TV where a solid 1/3 of the airtime is dedicated to obnoxious ads.
I think you’re forgetting that a large proportion of people are just really fucking stupid.
Meanwhile, Pete Rose is still not in the Hall of Fame.






















