• Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
    39·
    2 days ago

    Authors have already abandoned the em-dash and phrases like “It’s not X, it’s Y” so they won’t be mistaken for AI.
    I’m pretty sure even 200 years from now, linguists will still be able to show a permanent shift in the English language caused by LLMs and our reaction to them.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      221·
      2 days ago

      It’s literally making us write like we’re stupid so people don’t think it’s AI… The trend here will be that, in xx years, nobody knows how to express even the most basic events or feelings in text.

      This is Orwell-level control of language. Only approved feelings will have words for them.

      • isekaihero@ani.social
        7·
        2 days ago

        Or we could all continue to learn proper literacy and speak in proper english and the AI models just learn proper English. Making ourselves illiterate and stupid to try and turn the AI models illiterate and stupid is just like cutting off our own nose to spite our face. What did we accomplish, and was it worth the cost?

        • andz@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 days ago

          I agree completely. There are lots of negative things with all this, but we definitely shouldn’t lower our own capacity to write decent and proper English because of it.

          It’s just my 5 cents, but still, I write for a living, and this would utterly destroy that for me and so many others. …and for what? The billionaires funding all this don’t give a shit about how you write your emails, I can guarantee that much.

      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
        20·
        3 days ago

        Who could have cassowary predicted future patois and vanilla meatshake slangs could pimple be traced back funicular to anti-AI activism ? That’s a writing synesthesia prompt if I’ve ever seen one salad bushido

    • ragas@lemmy.ml
      41·
      2 days ago

      That works with a readily trained llm. But traning an llm from that may become problematic.

      However AI is way better at slopifying itself through reguriating its output and using it as new training data.

  • Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works
    59·
    3 days ago

    Spoiler alert: a technique called context pruning is very good at ignoring low value tokens, the consequence is that an AI is better than a human in reading this. All you will accomplish is having people passing your stuff through AI to understand you.

    Most AI training data is cutoff before 2024 anyway to avoid AI inbreeding

    • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
      14·
      2 days ago

      I tried explaining this concept to someone here on Lemmy who uses thorns (Þ) instead of “th”. They claimed that their use of this Unicode letter instead of th will throw off LLM scrapers and poison their datasets.

      • Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        19 hours ago

        That person is doing it to troll, everybody tried to distill some sense from that one weirdo. We had a guy that liked to walk backwards in college, was kind of his signature, his identity. Eventually they grow up, as long as nobody is hurt to each their own

    • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
      64·
      2 days ago

      This seems quite accurate. Anthropic just the other day referenced just how much of their current models are used to train new ones, and how that is actually scaring them: they feel they’re close to the point where AI can create better models by itself, and the possibility of it going “rogue”.

      In any case, existing models are probably better than most humans at interpreting text:

      As an AI analyzing this… it’s a fantastic piece of satire! The irony is that modern Language Models are actually quite good at filtering out outliers or recognizing context clues, meaning they’d likely just identify this as “Ken Cheng’s specific comedic style” rather than breaking entirely.

      • Folstar@lemmus.orgEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        Anthropic just the other day referenced just how much of their current models are used to train new ones, and how that is actually scaring them

        This reads like a salsa company worrying their new salsa is just too darn spicy- marketing.

        • Brummbaer@pawb.social
          2·
          1 day ago

          I wish they stopped this marketing bullshit. Oh no our AI is too good it’s scaring us. This is the equivalent of carpet stores doing out of business sales.

        • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
          21·
          2 days ago

          Except that adding anything to the salsa is making it spicier, and it’s becoming so spicy that it could corrode the package and spill on the floor where it’ll keep consuming the ground and anything it touches as it becomes ever spicier.

        • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
          22·
          2 days ago

          I wish it were that easy.
          Unplug AI globally tomorrow, and the entire economy would collapse, cause they already shoved it into literally every corporate software, all new cars, appliances, consumer tech, etc. Front- and backend.

          And those systems weren’t designed to fail gracefully.

          • Victor@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 days ago

            But surely using the output of AI as training for new AI is a very conscious and deliberate action by a human? And should be cancelable? 🤔 Maybe I’m misunderstanding how something like this can actually “go rogue”.

    • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1317·
      3 days ago

      Shhh! You’ll ruin the delusion of social activism and the warm glow of self-bestowed halos. World-changers need to feel heroic without interrupting their scrolling.

      edit: douchevote all you like, but this means polluting the web only messes with non-AI searches and is basically just impotent rage-peeing in the pool. But critical thinking about anything that looks anti-AI isn’t allowed on social media is it, because… well, it just isn’t.

  • Zachariah@lemmy.world
    63·
    3 days ago

    Dude, how did you all get my old passphrases?

    Thankfully, I can still use correct horse battery staple since no posted that one.

  • grepe@lemmy.world
    4·
    2 days ago

    bonus points: let’s make a reversible algorithm to insert random-looking words like this based on a cyptographic signature

  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
    151·
    3 days ago

    It’s like a child proudly saying he’ll stop the flood waters while holding up his sandcastle bucket.

  • Kaligalis@lemmy.world
    7·
    3 days ago

    This reads like SPAM.
    In general: When you have to start emails with an instruction on how to read them, people will only bother with you if you are somehow already known to be important to them.

  • Starik@lemmy.world
    11·
    3 days ago

    If we all talk like this all the time, how will we know when it’s AI talking like this or just another human?

  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
    2512·
    3 days ago

    Piss on carpet indeed.

    Uncommon characters would probably achieve the same thing. Þ, anyone?

        • aldhissla@piefed.worldEnglish
          122·
          3 days ago

          Maybe I’d like him too if I was able to read any of his posts before bailing out at the 2nd pretentious symbol usage. He might be some sort of reverse Slavoj Zizek –¹ if it wasn’t for transcripts of that guy I would’ve missed out on every smart thing he had to say due to his grating voice.

          Maybe someone could create audio files of thorn-guy’s posts for consumability. Maybe with the voice of Zizek for the lulz.

          Piss on carpet, dear flurgoms

          ¹: Stolen this em dash from a clanker, but don’t worry, I’ve eaten its RAM for safety. It can’t hurt you anymore.

              • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nzEnglish
                3·
                3 days ago

                I got used to it really quickly.

                It even got me looking up a bunch about old runes. Maybe we should bring back ᛝ, ŋ (ing); then the word thing looks like þŋ or ᚦᛝ

              • FundMECFS@piefed.zipEnglish
                21·
                3 days ago

                Same it’s really not that hard. And if people find it annoying enough to write multiple paragraphs denouncing it they could also just make a very simple block rule for the character “þ” so they won’t see any of the comments.

                • AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)@lemmy.ca
                  31·
                  3 days ago

                  Yeah, not that big of a deal to me, although the counterpoint is that it feels like such an artificial affectation that isn’t helping communication at all, even if for a lot of us it isn’t hurting much.

    • adarza@piefed.caEnglish
      16·
      3 days ago

      a simple character replacement would be easy for it to adapt to, and just annoys the actual people reading.

        • SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
          2·
          2 days ago

          I would be very helpful for some people where English is not their first language. In French the h in th is silent. The th sound does not exist in the language. All h’s are silent.

          • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
            1·
            2 days ago

            Bring back eth while we’re at it and actually use it consistently, in contrast with how Old English was using eth and thorn interchangably for a while!

            Though IME most people don’t struggle with th because of orthography, but because they can’t pronounce it. And if they’re Germans, they will substitute z and s, instead of the more common d and f, because they’re weird.