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I remember I got into an argument on reddit awhile ago with a person over Italian food. It got to the point they were following me into other subs to harass me. I clicked on their profile to block them and their most recent post was them drinking their own piss on r/piss. At that moment I realized I had spent so much pointless time arguing about the taste of food with someone who drinks their own piss as a hobby. This site is a shit hole.
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Humanity is a shithole. Social media is a cross-section.
I hate that pov so much.
Humanity is fantastic, wonderful, loving and amazing. It’s not a shit hole.
I’d argue society is really broken in some places, but not humanity.
As for Social media: it just brings out some dark side in some people. The vast majority of people on social media behave. It’s just that the outliers catch the attention.
I hate this pov so much.
I think it perpetuates that things are better than they actually are and inhibits change and progress… we’re all different I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Fair enough :)
I just don’t see how believing the worst in your fellow human can encourage you to improve things.
But the poster you replied to has a point:
Just like most animals the greater majority of people try to avoid as many direct conflicts as possible IRL. And they’re full of empathy and compassion - even for other animals in distress and inanimate objects (saw off the fingers of a plastic doll in front of others and see how they treat you afterwards).
But of course people will lose a part of that compassion etc once they move within society without feeling like a part of it. One example is driving a car. You’re way less aware of being a part of society even though you’re “swimming” in it. Feeling a strong individual agency and being empowered by two tons of steel while simultaneously being greatly restricted by everyone and everything around you will do that to you.
Same goes for the (social) media landscape. We feel empowered by our own echo chambers and/or chosen media outlet while barely interacting with anyone who could challenge our beliefs (which, funnily enough, is often the right call in that context, because we can’t change strong opposing beliefs via social media). And since it’s all an indirect, mostly faceless interaction, our beliefs will automatically be strengthened and we’ll be more likely to agitate anyone with opposing beliefs (while still avoiding any direct conflict).
So I’d say it’s more of a flaw in our design, that is being exploited, than a general lack of sympathy/empathy (of which we actually have plenty).
Which means you can’t hold any one individual to higher standards. Because that’s not where we “fail”. It’d take a much broader appliance of social securities (housing, food, healthcare, education etc all over the world) and a fundamental change in the way we interact. But you and I won’t change that (though I guess it’s comforting telling ourselves that we could individually change things on a greater scale).
So everyone’s in agreement… humanity is a shithole
If you consider that we are currently destroying our eco system that we need to survive and have known for over 50 years that the co2 levels will cause major issues, but nobody really felt the need to act. And when the countries actually sat together and made the Kyoto contracts the USA steped in and fucks up the whole idea. Thanks Bush you little Oil-fucker!
Considering that you could say humanity is fucked and humans are at fault. And if you look at it the people voting are at fault too, falling for company and other proparganda and voting for a government that fucks them even harder.
I would say humanity as we know it won’t exist anymore in 200 years. War, droughts, floods and shit will get us. Even if we would act now the whole planet would need to cooperate. No Chance!
Again, I’d blame society for that, not humanity.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the actual power in the world lies in the hand of just a fraction of percent of the people. Those asshole ruin it for everyone else.
Doesn’t mean the average human is evil.
Yeah, I know! But do you see anybody care about that? Do the votes for political parties show anything that would mean they don’t like those corrupted bastards?
No! Most people don’t care or think voting for the same parties will change sth.
I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who didn’t care about this besides the one-off sociopaths you encounter on the internet (though I’m fairly convinced that they also care but just feel powerless to change things). The problem is that the priority for most people is not starving to death within the next month, and that makes it impossible to devote time and energy into solving more long term problems.
Bro imagine having the balls to give someone shit about taste while drinking your own piss
Reddit teaches you to not argue with people more than absolutely necessary. It’s a waste of time. Just stop responding to them if you don’t want to talk.
This is just generally true of the internet as a whole
To be fair it happens here. Made a comment about far left & right being manipulated by Russian BS about Ukraine and some very tedious people started at me about how Ukraine are Nazis etc. I suppose it demonstrated my point in a roundabout way.
People here love to act like this stuff is exclusive to reddit when it is in fact a thing called “human nature” and can be observed anywhere there are people.
This is so fucking funny, thanks for reposting, OP. Rest in piss angry stranger.
Maybe it was just an AI bot trying ti see if it could waste your time. I have noticed this on a few occasions where a “person” was being rude and trying to get a reaction, but when you look at their history you see hints of AI chat bot. Why anyone would do this is beyond me…maybe research or just a way to mess with people. Something to think about the next time you get into it with someone or something on the Internet.
I remember seeing some mean comments on my country’s subreddit about how bad the country is, only to discover that the poster of those comments seemed to live in three places at once and shitting on all of them.
That happened all the time in my smallish city sub I used to frequent. It was small enough crap like that would get banned quickly. You’d just find them stirring every hot topic pot you could find in every city sub for our state and also like 5 other states, just 24/7 “arguing” aka spouting talking points or hit and run posts. Then occasionally a random post in /r/mlb
just join lemmy
It’s already getting infested with the worst of the reddit fuckers, I’ve been on here for probably 2 months and the first month was great, but it has quickly gotten reddioter and therefore shittier.
Reddit tended to be best where it had stolen better communities from the old web.
For example, r/Excel was always a stunningly chill place to get help with MS Excel. But notice that the community was/is tightly focused on a subject, that subject would have objectively correct answers to any questions about it, and the mods could politely but firmly discourage any spicier conversations as off-topic. You can keep that sort of place decent almost indefinitely.
Such communities would have been their own little message board before Reddit came along and hoovered them all up.
Likewise with all the other subreddits that were famously full of answers, ones you never had heard of. Just the other day I googled a question about some random piece of cable I had in my hand and guess who had answered it 4 years ago? Yeah. Those little communities tend to be really solid. They never get that big, either. You can’t just fuck around in them, you have to stay on topic and the average user hates that.
But Reddit turns into a wretched, life-draining parasitic monster in any form where the public feels like they have the right to run their mouths and chatter. So, most of Reddit, really. Anywhere that gives the average schmuck a place to vent will degenerate, rapidly, usually toward an abusive groupthink. It’s just populism, then, and a textbook answer to why that’s bad.
It’s the bane of all social media. I don’t think people are generally that shitty. I’ve decided that social media, including Reddit, just empowers small, loud minorities of miserable, exhausting people who have nigh-fascist opinions on every single thing, and as soon as the normal-ass people see that they’ve joined the chat, the normal-ass people all vanish, overnight, leaving behind only shitbags who love attention, or believe they have a right to it, at everyone else’s expense. There’s no getting rid of them when they show up, you can only get rid of you. I hope you weren’t having a nice time, because it’s over now, time to move on.
Reddit always had its great little subreddits full of truly precious answers as a counterweight to all that. It would appear that they were the only thing of value that Reddit ever had, too.
Lemmy doesn’t really have that. It looks like the most obnoxious parts of Reddit came here, so, you know, every computer problem is solved by installing Linux, and other mouthfuls of that flavor. Then somebody opened the floodgates and now you’re arguing with Commies about every political thing. Meanwhile, no great little subLemmies full of answers for your obscure questions exist to make up for it.
Like you said, it was super chill for a month, but then, yeah. It’s kinda same shit different day. It’s reminding me that I’ve decided to view social media as a vice, almost exactly like smoking, and changing cigarette brands does not solve the problem.
More than once I had someone being an arse to me on reddit, I took a gander at their profile to see what kind of fucko I was dealing with… and it was full of their nudes.
One time it was someone who lived in the same town as me.
Yeah… your insults and comebacks don’t hit quite as hard now that I know you’re desperate for people to see your vagina.
Slight hints of misogyny? What’s wrong with people showing off their bodies if they feel like it?
Siiiigh, would it help if I said penis? The last time this happened, it happened to be a woman.
And it’s pretty obvious when someone starts shit with people on the Internet for no reason, then posts their uglies all over the net, that they’ve got a pretty juvenile issue with attention-seeking behaviour in general.
Quite a stretch, my guy.
And no, it would not have helped in the slightest. What people do on the internet is their business - if they feel like posting nudes, so be it. But that does not magically invalidate their opinion(s) in an argument, “juvenile” as they be.
This more so proves your “juveniless” (I hate even using this word) that you try to dig up non-existent dirt on people to crap on their opinions and statements.
The site seems more like a piss hole.
Technically, this sub is a shit hole.
Really? So Lemmy’s thing is kink shaming? We want that to be our thing?
Honestly, I’ve seen people kiklnkshame others on here since day 1 of the whole exodus thing. People were bitching about furries when there weren’t even any furries to be found. A couple weeks back there was a big defederation thing over a nsfw sub which had adult women in pigtails.
In an art appreciation sub (I think it was r/museum) some jackhole said they liked a Van Gogh painting because “it had colors resembling the Ukrainian flag”. I caught a third strike for saying “Fuck Ukraine”. When I explained to the mod that it was because i was sick of political bullshit creeping into everything, and the painting in question was painted 100 years before Ukraine was even a country, he rescinded the ban, but it didn’t matter, it was my third strike on Reddit. I even got a cute little hammer emoji. Yeah, fuck Reddit.
