ITT: exactly what the tweet was about.
Y’all just saw “AI” and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
Exactly, it’s downright comical how well OP called it.
Aren’t you OP? Also, people currently understand “AI” (a marketing term) as “LLMs” and audiovisual producing software. Had you mentioned it in the late 90s, it would’ve been more about “The Matrix” kind of sci-fi AI, for instance, and before it would’ve referred to Cameron’s Terminators or Herbert’s “machine intelligence”. Words and their context. You’re being purposefully obtuse because people here wrote thoughtful comments disagreeing with the premise in the image you posted (and apparently agree with) and you don’t like it as it makes you feel silly. That’s all.
I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button
I’m really happy with my ASUS Zenbook 14 (16GB memory, 512GB SSD, Intel Core Ultra 7 255H), which I got for $700, in case you’re still looking for a recommendation. Absolutely worth it IMO, though I’m running Linux, so the Copilot key is mapped to the compose key.
That’s awesome, back in my day, we had to spit in our homemade fleshlights to get the slop.
If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn’t see any ai slop button on these.
Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.
I will stop freaking out when naive techbro men stop the ecological mass murder and environmental destruction that they supposedly NEED to do to sustain their shitty knockoff of a religion/cult.
Silicon valley is just a convoluted project to revive prey enlightenment Christianity, but stupider and more evil.
Everything they have peoduced since 2008, if not earlier, is part of this.
Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.
Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.
AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.
One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.
It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.
“The left went too far with ‘woke’, but that doesn’t mean we need to go too far in the other direction!”
No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It’s insane that this even needs to be said.
It’s fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.
If you want to take this one step further, it’s the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.
Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them “left or right”, “red or blue”, “my team your team” then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.
Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.
Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse… Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.
“No Kings” isn’t realistically actionable.
Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn’t a fleshed out product yet it’s being pushed into apps that don’t need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn’t intended for but it needs to be opt in.
I will stop freaking out when they will stop trying to shove it down my throat all the time
That’s what she said!
^I’m sorry^
“she” being a conservative woman talking about pronouns again
^I’m sorry^
No, you’re not xD
That doesn’t narrow it down, are you a conservative bigot, or just an AI-hater?
I’m a conservative bigot only when it comes to AI
See, that narrows it down
ai or pronouns
Let’s cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we’re too lazy to photoshop! What’s not to like? More fossil fueled plagiarized bullshit so I don’t have to think please!
Edit: Looks like I struck a nerve with some people who are, similarly to “AI”, confidently incorrect about a few things. I’m not even saying LLM can’t be used for good, it has, but I am saying that it is being used for a lot of bad shit and it’s being powered by a lot of bad shit on top of that.
Think about that before you start hyping “AI” and attacking anyone who criticizes it because there’s some valid criticisms that are very dangerous to ignore.
“AI” is not just LLMs or diffusion models, and that’s what I think OPs is about, like, do you also hate Stockfish? Or enemies in a videogame?
Also, some things are called AI that aren’t. People are freaking out as soon as the term is mentioned without checking if it’s actually some sort of model or if it’s just a basic algorithm with a buzzword tossed on.
I hate stockfish because it keeps beating me >:(
“AI” in videogames is basically never powered by large models like LLMs or Stable Diffusion or others. The fact you compare them only demonstrates how fucking little you actually know about this topic you are BLINDLY defending.
Think
Then they wouldn’t be hyping and defending the current state of the “AI”
Let’s cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we’re too lazy to photoshop!
Decided to look into it, and a loose estimate (it’s hard to find data on the power usage of photoshop) is that 1 minute of photoshop average is about 1 gen image at 4k output.
Which means depending on use case and experience, an AI spun up locally to make something quickly would use far less electricity
Let’s cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we’re too lazy to photoshop!
You’re kinda proving the point of post. That’s literally what everyone here thinks of when someone says Ai
While you are correct that AI is a horrible source of greenhouse gas due to its insatiable need for power, I wouldn’t call the people using it the make pictures “too lazy to learn Photoshop”. Being able to draw is a talent not everyone has and it’s kind of amazing to be able to make a picture you see in your mind without having the innate talent to do so. That being said, the people who have the talent who’s art has been used to train these AI systems should be broadly compensated for their work being used in the AI models.
I despise whenever someone talks like this about drawing. Everyone can draw. Nobody was born being able to make masterpieces from day one. It’s not some mystical arte that only those with the Chosen One gene can do. It all comes down to a willingness to try and to learn. That’s it. Using “talent” to bar yourself from doing so is only doing yourself a disservice. Even drawing silly little stick men is still practice, and I can attest to that from both first and second-hand experience. Just pick up a pencil, or boot up paint on a computer (but please, at least download paint.net or something), and you’ll find that you can indeed draw, you just have to do it enough to gain confidence. It’s like walking, or driving a car. I don’t see anyone saying that some people have innate driving talent and some don’t.
That’s absolute bullshit. I spent years trying to get good at drawing. I bought lots of books on how to draw and was never able to make anything that didn’t look like it was made by a 5 year old. I even learned Photoshop and Illustrator cause I thought that those would be a gateway for me to get better. Spoilers, it didn’t.
So go fuck yourself with your “everyone can draw” horseshit argument. No, not everyone can draw. And it doesn’t just take “working hard at it till you’re good”. You have to have talent. I fucking don’t, as well as lots of others out there.
And I said in my comment as well as many other places, these AI drawing sites need to compensate the people who’s talent they, at this point in time, have stolen. Just because I think the technology has purpose doesn’t mean I don’t think that there are problems with it.
Art can be made out of literally anything. Trash, pieces of fabric, some chalk on a sidewalk, spray cans, arrangement of random objects, sea shells, etc. People will still love to look at shitty sketches and cute chibis and eagerly repost that art. Your medium doesn’t have to be just paper and pencil, nor just an expensive digital screen and a paid paint program, but even then digital can be free. Kritia, MS Paint, Sketchbook, IbisPaint, Fossify Paint, and many more are free and easy to download on Android. Procreate is cheap and loved by many. There are people doing this shit on their phone with their finger and a lot of determination.
None of these artists started out making masterpieces, they had to take the time to get to where they are and learn. Thousands of free tutorials are online, on both YT and other social media platforms, for any kind of art medium. Years of work and practicing every day. Even for those who are making masterpieces now, they take probably days or weeks to finish off a major project, they can’t just pump that shit out.
If you can’t draw or photoshop images well, that’s fine, as not everyone is able to do that skill. I want to learn to draw, but I can recognize that I probably don’t have to time right now in my life to do that, nor will I likely be able to reach the level I dream of, and I accept that. But the moment you decide to get mad at the people opposing AI art and using AI to Photoshop, or you yourself ever use AI to do such acts, then I will gladly call you a lazy bastard. You can’t have your cake without the effort that others put in to do it, and if you’re doing it for commercial purposes, you should be dragged through the streets.
Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it. It causes discussion, whether good, bad, happy, angry, etc. AI art is only amazing on the surface, “wow, we have the tech to do this” and then it stops being amazing. Either way am artist/digital designer or don’t make whatever it is you wanted. Using AI to make art is embarrassing.
You can run AI off of renewable energies too. This isn’t an issue of AI. It’s an issue of capitalism.
You could do a lot of things, but that’s not what is happening so here we are!
Also, to be clear, “AI” is just a marketing term for LLM. You’re describing it as a capitalism problem but it’s a product of capitalism and they’re using it to make more money for themselves while it uses things people created as source material with the power of fossil fuel.
That is pretty fucked up.
Sure, it could be powered by renewables and it could be used to benefit humanity, but could doesn’t count for shit when it’s also being powered by fossil fuels and used to manipulate and even kill people.
Could and are: Two very different things.
Could is what should be. That is what we also should act according towards.
Instead of attacking symptoms, attack the root cause. Which still is capitalism. Corpos will use energy that damages the environment because they will seek the most profits and least expenses under a market economy.
LLMs and AI would still be developed under any other system. Capitalism doesn’t invent things, all it invents are ways to commodify things.
Funny. AI’s commosification of creative effort itself is what most people are hating on. Hate capitalism’s commodification on everything? Then you might consider hating the paragon of commodification built on theft!
How is AI a marketing term for LLM? Aren’t LLMs neural networks, which is an AI technique?
It sure bugs me how everyone suddenly started to use the word “AI” exclusively to refer to LLMs, but the term is not wrong either.It’s AI the same way the CPU players in NHL ‘94 are AI
To a layman, no it’s not and should not be viewed as the same, either. One is a MASSIVE stack of precomputed matrices (NOT a neural network), the other a stack of predetermined algorithms with some random() thrown in.
They are all actually and literally completely different in form, function, and computing requirement.
Thanks for providing an example
So sorry for criticizing AI for very serious problems that will affect me in my lifetime along with everyone I care about. What a piece of shit I am, please forgive me! AI is totally great and has no problems at all!
AI only exacerbates an existing problem with tech; AI datacenters pollute and consume because datacenters pollute and consume
a lot of things many people do online, including watching videos or playing online games, are super polluting. yet no one talks about this
you don’t care about the environment, you care about AI
Wildly presumptive and incorrect statement about me, but you are right about data centers.
On that note, it’s worth pointing out that some fediverse instances are powered by renewables! It’s small compared to the Internet at large, but it’s a start.
That’s not what the post is about? How do you know I don’t agree with you? This post is about people, not AI.
Yesterday I saw a guy attacked on fuck_ai because he wasn’t extreme enough with his anti ai attitude.
I commented to him, only said I thought that his comment was valid and got promptly deleted.
Is this the new sub tweeting? Whining in a shitpost sub about how you got modded for continuing to support a logical fallacy after the mod said knock it off?
It was not a logical fallacy to begin with and I only had one comment and it was only to the guy who was attacked, not to anyone else.
What do you care so much where I talk about how obnoxious fuck_ai has become? It’s a stupid cult, that doesn’t want any dissenting opinions and people are attacked for not being extreme enough. A sewer.
Yeah, the church of anti-AI is loud, obnoxious, and obstinate.
[slopping intensifies]
People hyping “AI” are the ones that seem like cultists to me. It’s not even artificial intelligence, they’re misusing the term to make money. They rebadged LLM.
There are extremist on both sides. But at least the anti-AI group has environmental responsibility on their side.
Environmental responsibility? That’s the only real argument they have and even that is on shaky ground.
Ahh yes, not the literal theft of billions of peoples’ work. Not prematurely replacing jobs with machines. Those are all totally cool things LLMs are doing!
… You and your type are fucking clowns.
I beg to differ. Anti ai is way bigger on Lemmy than pro. You can see this even by the likes.
Second part is about semantics of ai. We use the term AI because that kind of stuck. Everybody uses the term. It makes no sense to every time rage about what it means specifically, especially since most people do fairly understand what it is.
Clearly they do not know what it is when they say, “LLMs and video game AI are the same thing!” No. No they aren’t. At all. In basically every case, they are wholly different.
I have never seen anyone other than tech bros hype AI. Quite the opposite, I only see people raging on AI.
Gee do you think maybe there’s some good fuckin reasons for that
I guess I should make some sort of clever comment about a mirror here but it looks like I’ve run out of shits to give. Good chat!
Me too. Especially here in Lemmy. Definitely way more people rage about it. Rarely I see people being obnoxious by promoting it.
You must only be reading web forums like Lemmy/Reddit. I think society as a whole is very excited by the idea of AI.
Companies everywhere have been racing to be the first to add AI to their products, for instance. Not just tech bro companies either. Everybody.
Edit: so many downvotes and no comments. I see AI hype everywhere, it’s a fact. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, just that it isn’t limited to tech bros.
Companies hopping on a fad bandwagon doesn’t mean that the public in general wants it.
Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.
It has been my experience that things go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it’s nonsense and ask, “Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid.”
And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.
I agree, they should be more like me and use their brain to cook the planet
edit: now that’s what I call hot-headed
I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai
I really don’t think there is any useful generative or general AI.
So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most “useful” AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.
People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that’s been kind of covered by the catch all term “algorithm”. What most people understand as “the” algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn’t a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.
All that to say, the general public really doesn’t need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn’t care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.
Exactly. I don’t have problem with AI. I have problem with slop machines pretending to be AI.
The pronouns of LLMs are typically “useless/drivel”
I chat with ai whenever I don’t have a friend to chat with. (a lot)
