Ah shit, here we go.
Looks like the future country of Cascadia is finally starting to make some moves.
hella stoked for the Pacific States of America.
The agreed-upon future name is Cascadia.
If those 3 leave the union, I think the country’s more or less done for.
I’m sure Canada could find a use for a few more provinces…
No thanks. Make your own country and we’ll be allies.
Probably make us territories to start with full province status later. Joining Canada as provinces would be much more like Canada becoming the outer Pacific states. California alone has nearly the same population as the entirety of Canada.
Illinois would like to join your federation.
Oh cool. Canadas future provinces helping each other out.
If only!
Meanwhile Florida has started to form toddler death Voltron by announcing they’re removing all vaccination requirements from schools.
I fully expect there to be a southern collation of iron lungs soon.
The worst thing about Toddler Death Voltron is: it is sentient and wants to no longer exist but they refuse to let it die because it hasn’t been born yet.
Good luck writing THAT into your next screenplay MAGA Universe Doctor Strange
New band name
Iron Lung Collator is taken.
I thought they meant Southern Coalition of Iron Lungs at first, but Toddler Death Voltron is better still.
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Another good day to live on the West Coast of the US I see.
Damn am I happy to live over here.
Meanwhile in KY, our governor’s decisions (like to make conversion therapy illegal) get vetoed
Well, it’s an industry, why would they even think about banning a huge part of the economy?
i love that the health guy looks like the most illnesses possible in one person
He’s just 16 preventable illnesses in a trenchcoat
Has anyone seen RFK Jr. and one of Nurgle’s Great Unclean Ones in the same room together? I don’t think so…
This is gold. I could see John Oliver or Jon Stewart using this.
Republican Health Minister and sixteen-preventable-illnesses-in-a-trenchcoat, promising he’s a real boy, RFK Jr. said this week…
“So, what your saying is…I’m indestructible!”
"Oh, no no, in fact even a slight breeze could-”
“In-de-structable!”
Many people are saying there is something wrong with his mitochondria.
Well that can’t be good. That’s the power house of the cell!
The deep dent in the side of his temple is the icing on the cake.
Just creating this division is proof RFK should resign. We knew he was an activaxxer and against science, but enforcing his personal opinion on the entire country is unforgivable. At-risk children, elderly, and others will die because of his bias…
Cascadia babeee!
I think blue states should bring in all in-house solutions to cut the middleman White House out of it. States rights!
We did that with CARB and now the feds are trying to stop it after decades of other states signing on because it worked so well here in Cali.
At the very least they need to hire these doctors and scientists that RFK Jr. fired so their wisdom and knowledge don’t go to waste!
Isn’t Washington on the other side of america?
There’s 2. Washington (State, west coast) and Washington DC (East coast, not a state)
Jesus, you learn something every day
Seattle is in Washington, directly under Canada, a stones throw from Vancouver, specifically. DC is a former wetland (hence “Drain the Swamp!”) set in between Maryland and Virginia and has a warmer climate. We are taught that the capital was never supposed to be part of any state, lest they become more powerful than the others.
DC is a former wetland
for like half a century after the countries founding, there was no sewer system. So a giant lake of shit formed, practically behind the White House. It’s thought a lot of the early presidents had their life shortened by cholera complications
I think they should bring back the shit swamp, personally. I think we could use a place to dunk politicians we are displeased with.
I like how you present information, thanks. Ever considered being a human AI? 😉
I am not a robot, just mildly autistic lol.
Oh there are many places named Washington in the US!
There’s a small city called Washington, PA. It’s easy to find because it’s also in Washington county!
If you find yourself in California, PA instead of Washington, PA then you made the same mistake as if you ended up in big-ass California instead of big-ass Washington: too far south!!
Oh yeah, you can also attend Washington and Jefferson College in Washington city in Washington county! :D
That’s the old washington. We’ve had plenty of updates and fixed many of the issues for the new one. Good way to remember it is that the nation’s capital is called Washington DC. DC is an Italian abbreviation for Da Capo which means from the beginning.
And on the other side of Trump.
Oooh, the second US civil war may still be on but not in the way we first thought.
I did not have “Civil War over vaccines” on my apocalypse bingo card.
It’s literally a life-or-death matter.
Yes, civil wars (or really any war) usually involves that sort of struggle. And also yes, vaccines save lives and are settled science.
2025 has had a lot of unexpected surprises!
still 3+ months of surprise left. So tired, so very tired
They should probably just join back up with Old Mexico and take Colorado too so they are left out cold
As much as I would love Colorado to depart the insanity, it will never happen. A ton of the nuclear ICBMs are here and it’s not like Washington will give that up.
Those are negotiating chips. Less likely to be invaded if you have nukes at your disposal.
Colorado has NORAD but that’s not where many of the silos are.
Pretty sure these are still active. I’ve driven by some of them.
HUH. I stand corrected.
Don’t listen to a Canadian. Only lived in CO for a few years in the mid 90s.
Throw in British Columbia and Alaska while you’re at it. Just take the entire west cost of North America.
And what should be the east coast, since if the international date line didn’t do that weird curve at the end of the Aleutians, Alaska would be the northernmost, westernmost, and easternmost state.
BC says no thanks. Even west coast US is still broken AF.
Alaska was full of libertarian “I came out here so I can live as I please” types, but a lot of them have shifted over to the crazy.
I think with the right-wing media being severed (with regulations around honesty in news and a more publicly funded system, not particularly with censorship), those types would go back to their “just leave me alone” ways.
Since you’re including the entire north american west coast, can Baja California get an invite too?
I love when people throw around the idea of Canadian provinces just being up for grabs, as if we want anything to do with what’s going on south of the border.
We are not opposed to that either.
Colorado is willing and able to join this western alliance!
If NM joined I’d move there in a heartbeat.
When the US falls apart I strongly suspect the nation of Cascadia to form from these states
The problem… or complication with this…
Is that basically every part of WA and OR east of the Cascades will … counter-seceede.
Go look up the Greater Idaho project.
There is, and has been for a while now, an effort to … have the eastern counties of WA and OR leave their respective states and join Idaho.
From a legal/constitutional perspective… this is completely unprecedented, as best I can tell this has never before happened in US history, states redrawing their own borders, via counties which largely actually have democratically voted to do so via popular referendums.
Northern/Eastern CA + Southern OR will possibly form into something like the old attempts at the proposed state of ‘Jackson’.
There is an absolutely huge political polarization within all these states between urban and rural areas, roughly also by which side of the Cascades you are on.
I’ve hastily cropped that image from this source:
https://brilliantmaps.com/county-1992-v-2024/
So… yeah… if the governors of WA OR and CA formally seceeded and formed Cascadia? Came ‘too close’ to functionally doing that?
Well the rightwingers have an arguably legit legal counter move for that (or so they will argue, the whole point is different sides do not agree) and then basically the West Coast explodes into functionally a civil war of some kind, probably involving both partisan and ‘official’ state forces, and federal forces, roughly breaking apart along the Cascades, but it could easily be way more chaotic than that, depending on what say, forces at JBLM and Kitsap, and other major West Coast bases decide to do, as well as major city/regional/state police.
Let me personally tell you that Eastern WA/OR and Idaho still very, very much remember Ruby Ridge, the militia movement never died, it just went dormant till Trump, and uh, skipping up to present day, is now basically being formally recruited into ICE… ICE now has more funding than the United States Marine Corps.
Fucking yeehaw is what I very much fear would happen if either side makes significant moves toward anything resembling actual secession.
Oh no doubt. Any kind of secession would be resolved with a civil war, and the final borders might not be recognizable.
How many people do you think live in Oregon?
The majority of Oregonians live in Portland metro area.
A similar stat can be found regarding Seattle metro, and Washington has more blue cities than OR.
So, for starters, I am describing people by where they live, not how many live where.
Yes, of course, many more people live in major urban areas than other wise.
But it is still true that by area, there are many areas in WA and OR that are very highly Republican… presumably you have noticed the dramatic cultural difference between two of such of those areas.
Again, go actually look into the Greater Idaho project, a lot of these people are very serious about … seceeding their counties from Dem dominant WA and OR state governments, to join ID’s Rep dominant government.
This is a concerted political campaign that has been going on for over a decade and has gotten quite a lot of popular support in those counties via county level referendums.
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Further… the other point I am making is that the red areas are often quite extreme in their affinity for firearms.
It… does not take too many armed terrorists, militia cells, patriots, whatever you want to call them, to effectively terrorize or act as an insurgency in an area… especially if the official police are generally amenable to your movement… cops tend to be right wing authoritarians.
If you have ever lived in Portland or Seattle, I am sure you have observed the regular flooding in of non locals, from environs, whenever some kind major sport event, or public event occurs, or even just generally during work hours, good times to go shopping or clubbing or w/e.
Now just imagine that including some domestic terrorists.
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This almost certainly would not play out as simply as the red and blue areas just… becoming their own nation states and then raising their own formal militaries to do battle with each other, where the red areas would lose simply by having less people or less industrial base.
No, civil wars, balkanization, sectarian violence, insurgency, occupation… is way way way more complicated than that.
Maybe go read up on how that went/is going in Iraq and Afghanistan or Syria or Ukraine… for some recently case studies on how complicated this can get.
Jackson
Lincoln, Jefferson or Liberty not jackson
Great, provided there is some version of the Nuremberg Trials for Silicon Valley techbro nazis.
They are welcome to fix their hearts or die.
It’s a good way to keep out garbage ICE invasions from LA.
When?
