• eestileib@sh.itjust.works
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    Yeah, it’s the oblivious asshole bullies who are the happiest. I still don’t want to be one, but I can’t deny that life would be better if I had (say) my father’s limitless self regard.

  • M137@lemmy.today
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    That and “you are every intelligent, I’ve never before had a patient who understands and knows so much, you can go so far if you just get past these issues.”
    Ok, thanks, that only makes it worse. The “issues” are everything, they’re not just small bumps in the road. And you putting that kind of weight on me, that I’m expected to go way beyond just having a functional life, just makes makes it even harder to aim for a possible goal. I just want to get to a place where cleaning, hygiene, doing the most badic things expected work without feeling like it takes up more than twice the battery I have. It feels so disrespectful.

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      I think it’s partly not being able to manage your internal life and partly not being able to manage other people. Ie: when I’m in freeze stress response I cannot manage myself and so cannot manage other people. If I had more control over my dissociation, I’d be clear headed enough to learn how to manage other people. We cannot control other people, but we can (theoretically) control our response to them. So the problem isn’t other people, the problem is you not managing your reaction toward other people.

    • residentoflaniakea@discuss.tchncs.de
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      This might be part of the issue but in reality high self awareness can also lead to excessive overthinking, ruminating, self criticism and hypervigilance. This is mechanics at play that are the root of some people suffering depression. By no means does this mean to become less selfaware rather to become aware of this pattern and recognise these thoughts: become more aware of ones self awareness.

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        Not just self awareness but also awareness about state of world. Existential dread is not anxiety.

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          Existential dread is not anxiety.

          Uhh… yes it is? I mean, what emotion would you otherwise attribute to it? Because dread as an emotion—also literally in the term “existential dread”—can be directly described as an anticipatory anxiety about future events.

          The two are extremely closely related if not referring to the exact same feeling. They really only differ in context, and even then only semantically.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          It’s still paranoia even if someone is really out to get you. A little paranoia is healthy IMO, as long as it isn’t causing a significant disruption to your life for no good reason.

          Same thing with anxiety. Being aware of how things can go wrong is an important survival skill IMO but not if it paralyzes you or takes over all your thoughts for no good reason. That last bit is important. Spending all your effort storm proofing your home while a massive storm is coming in is smart. Spending 6 hours rocking back and forth on a chair because you’re worried about what that storm will do isn’t.

          • edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
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            Rational concerns about the very real impending ecosystem collapse vs irrational concerns like a bear attacking me in my living room. I do not live in an area with bears. To be clear I’m not actually concerned about bears necessarily but my body is in full fight or flight survival mode while I’m just trying to catch up on my shows.

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              Yeah this, but most of society seems to happy to ignore those very real and rational existential threads.

      • [deleted]@piefed.world
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        Not every single time, but for the most part, yes.

        I’ve learned to manage the gap pretty successfully and if they get a glimmer of self awareness I will absolutely do my best to nurture it and that works pretty darn well. Only the absolute worst never catch on, but they tend to be the people who can never admit to being wrong while constantly fucking things up by not doing the bare minimum.

  • fizzle@quokk.au
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    I often marvel at the way some people can just bobble along through life bumping into things.

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      Yeah, the amount of times I’ve had the thought of “I’d be so much happier if I was just a fucking idiot…” after dealing with morons who are somehow still better off than I am is way too high.

  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    I always worried that professional mental health care would be difficult for me, considering that I’ve spent so much time self-reflecting and coming up with strategies and mechanisms to get by. The first psychiatrist I ever worked with was blown away when we talked - she even asked for a hug when our session was over.

    There’s definitely something to be said for having self-awareness. The struggle comes in when you’re so aware and already trying so hard that even the professionals have no notes to add.

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    A fun lyric from a song I like called Pretending by Orla Gartland.

    “All the people over there They don’t seem to have a care I’m so fucking self aware, it’s exhausting.”

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    Any chance you can make me less self aware? Maybe a frying pan to the face or something…ignorance is bliss as they say.

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    I know that feeling. But then they only get to hear my version and my point of view and what is if I’m wrong and the rest of our session is based on false assumptions…

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      I’ve never been but I’ve always assumed that therapy would involve asking you questions to determine how accurate your own take on things actually was to break down any false assumptions or change perspectives that may be causing you issues. I could be wrong though that’s just how I approach dealing with my own problems.

      • [deleted]@piefed.world
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        That is a big part of it.

        I am the person from the meme, therapy doesn’t benefit me because I am already working on my less than perfect behavior and already do all the things I’m supposed to when interacting with other people based on what information I have.

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    Isn’t that called “hyperreality” and it can lead to a kind of reality induced psychosis, because you’re talking about reality in a way others can’t necessarily see/accept.

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      This was actually something I was warned against when I first started into meditation and studying Taoism. You do need to stay somewhat attached to society’s perceived reality if only to be able to speak and relate with others on that plane of reality.

      You can choose to fully see past the manufactured reality we’ve been given, but then it’s hard to participate when money and material goods holds no real value for you. Your living space holds no real value. Your job holds no real value… You might see how this could snowball quickly into no longer paying for your living standard and becoming homeless.

      No one is saying you can’t, but that is something to be aware of on that path.

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        Taoism isn’t a value system, so the statements about value you’ve made - come from you. Not Taoism… Taoism also doesn’t dictate a path.

        Also, why are people warning you about your own choices? I don’t know whose telling you this stuff, but maybe don’t listen to them, or anyone else trying to sound mystical about it all. This isn’t a kung fu movie.

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          With a range of meaning in Chinese philosophy, translations of Tao include ‘way’, ‘road’, ‘path’, or ‘technique’

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism

          Its whole philosophy relies on finding One’s path. Definition is up to the individual, but it’s important to make sure you’re telling that to someone in a healthy state of mind.

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            Sure, but I think that’s a bit like claiming the Buddhist concept of “Perfect Effort” is a set place, rather than a techniques the user can use to attempt anything.

            It’s a bit like claiming heaven has an address. It’s silly.

            The way isn’t about a set teleology or way/path of doing things, it’s a philosophy by which one can achieve many things. Not a finite set instruction list or address.

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      Not really. Hyper reality is where you hallucinate patterns in reality where none exist

      Introspection leads down a different path. The equivalent would be finding patterns in yourself that don’t exist… But that’s just the human condition. And dispelling your self illusions is a big part of truly understanding yourself

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    Stupid mother fuckers (the scientific term) are rarely aware of the negative impact they have on those around them. Case-in-point: some lady at a green light just turned her hazards on and sat there blocking traffic for some unknown reason when we were coming home today. She’s way-too checked out to actually think about the people inconvenienced by her behavior or she’d be too horrified by what others thought to do so. I mean, some people are genuinely uncaring about others, but I think the majority don’t think past their own action rather than being sociopaths. They just aren’t thoughtful people.

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      You sure she just chose to do that on a whim and wasn’t experiencing functional issues with her vehicle? Depending on the context, you might be doing what you’re accusing her of doing by focusing on how it affected you rather than why she might have done it.

      Not that it’s impossible that she was just being selfish or unaware, but that “for some unknown reason” stood out to me.

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          Maybe she noticed the brake is not working properly and decided to not risk it. Maybe her car didn’t move when she pressed the accelerator. Maybe she couldn’t get into gear when driving a manual. Maybe the steering wheel locked up. I think there might be about a thousand issues why someone puts on hazards and can’t move the car (safely) anymore.

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            Or even a “less good” reason that she didn’t understand well enough to know it’s not a “just park it in the middle of an intersection” kind of situation, like her check engine light came on.

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          I once had a car stop working while waiting at a stoplight. Light turns green, press gas pedal, nothing. In a panic, I just keyed it off and started it again, and luckily that did the trick. I don’t think I would have had the sense at the time to use hazards if that hadn’t worked.

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      You’re right, but your example is putting you in the category of people you’re explaining. You couldn’t find a single better example? Really?

      Here’s one: People at the metro will try to get on before others get off. They will just push their way past them like if they don’t get on right this second then the train will leave without them. It makes it harder for everyone else and the whole scenario is easy to see from all perspectives, yet they still miss it. No guessing reasons, just moronic selfishness.

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          That stuff is pretty wild to see in action - it’s one of the more common general anesthetic agents used in surgery. They push that shit, in in about 10 seconds you go from fully alert and oriented to a state of unconsciousness that’s so deep you can’t even breathe without mechanical assistance.

          Can definitely see why it’s so popular for surgery, but fuck is that stuff potent!

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            Oh no. I had my wisdom teeth out and I can only describe it as maybe feeling like I had teleported it was so disorienting.

            Just freaks me out.

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              I’ve been the recipient too - in my case, the preop rooms and post-anesthesia recovery are the same (usually those are separate units) and was in the same room for both. Don’t remember rolling to the OR at all, just hanging out in preop getting my IVs and such in, then the preop nurse leaves for something, then the surgeon walks in explaining that my surgery’s all done! Hooray! …but like… what.?! how can it be done? we never left the room… my throat hurts… and I have incision wounds and stichtes now… dafuq…?

              Yeah it’s a trip and a half from the patient perspective!