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    Except for the purple, it is a nice kitchen.

    Purple is just the color we see least in nature. That is why it is associated with unfamiliar things like aliens, magic, lovecraftian gods, …

    So having it in your house makes you have less of an attraction with it.

    Here is the same picture, but just with a different hue:

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      No one did this for a flip. This reads as someone who really likes purple. That floor and countertop cost extra and someone flipping wouldn’t have spent the money on that. A flip would be boring brown or gray with the cheapest materials and crappy workmanship.

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      Also their ‘renovations’ usually just need to be taken out or repaired to normal by the buyer as they rarely use proper licensed tradesmen, or check to see if what they’re doing is even sound for the building. I’ve seen a center brick fireplace, clearly holding up the roof, just ripped out and plastered over.

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          They also built the existing garage into a bedroom only accessible through the back of another bedroom. I get building a hallway is more complicated, but unless you wanna feel like you’re going to Narnia every bedtime, it’s just not gonna be a sell point.

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    People shit on “acceptable beige”, “agreeable gray” (aka “millennial gray”), etc. but the problem is most things that people like more are more divisive. The people that live this kitchen I’m sure LOVE this kitchen. But for everyone else it’s a pass.

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      Speaking as one of the “everyone else”, it’s not just a pass on the kitchen, but a deal-breaker for the entire house. I look at this and all I see is so many of my weekends being wasted getting it to a state that my wife and I would even consider acceptable.

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        Exactly. And the fact that they sunk so much into the renovation is upsetting. When I sold my house my wife and I briefly considered fixing some stuff up but it’s like… I’m gonna pay some big amount of money then charge more but if I don’t I can sell for less and sell quicker. Then again it’s not like the house was a mess. Plus this was during the craze of 2021 so getting offers wasn’t a concern.

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        You have to be plumb crazy to own a real cuda, and that kitchen is a plumb crazy qualifier. Come back when you’re ready to fully commit to the complete cuda club experience. Maybe one day…

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        Yeah imo that floor is more of a deal breaker than the overabundance of purple, but then again I am a purple enjoyer (although I prefer my purple to have more blue in it)

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          I like purple, but in a kitchen it seems like a bad choice. It makes it look like a toy kitchen set, kinda.

          And there is some kind of dichotomy about the floors that is off-putting. I love the look, but its like if it can’t decide if it’s trying to be elegant or bold, and it kinda doesn’t pull off either. Like… The fake marble McMansion isn’t a great vibe, but unique natural pattern with bold colors is cool af.

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          Idk I could see the floor with the cabinets being black maybe with an updated design. If the rest of the house was nice, I’d do it.

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      Well then it’s definitely a deal breaker 😂

      (Are dishwashers that common in the states? I’ve lived in 16 houses and never had one, when friends get them installed it’s a celebration, they’re dishwasher owning kind of people now, fancy)

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        I’ve never been to a house in Norway that didn’t have a dishwasher. Even cabins up in the mountain or old seaside cabins have them installed if they got water access. Where do you live where it isn’t common?

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          Regional Australia. I know they’re common in new builds, but not the kind of landlord special flips I’ve lived in obviously 😂.

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        I’ve had one apartment w/o a dishwasher, and that was a 100+ yo house that had been converted into apartments, and the kitchen was super small.

        Other than that, every apartment and house has had a dishwasher. Mine actually has two (second is in a basement kitchenette w/ no stove or oven).

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          We had no dishwasher in our first flat, as we put a washing machine there - it was either that or carrying the laundry up and down several levels.

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            Wow, a washing machine in the kitchen? That’s really odd…

            I feel so privileged having a separate laundry room and a dishwasher in my kitchen. That’s really typical for my area (US), and I’ve only had one apartment that didn’t have laundry hookups in a separate room (in a bathroom or closet).

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              The bathroom was never intended to host a washing machine, as there were spaces in the basement for that. But I would not want my handicapped wife to have to carry all the laundry up- and downstairs. And we used a machine that was both a washer and dryer in one, The flat was quite small, but as a first place to live on our own, it was fine.

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                Sounds like our second apartment, which was a huge piece of crap.

                I’ve seen movable washing machines and dishwashers than can stay in a closet when not in use, and then wheeled into the kitchen and hooked up to the faucet and drain as needed.

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        They are common not only in the US. I would not want to miss it - it would seriously degrade my joy in cooking if I had to spend as long on cleaning as on cooking.

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          Wow, that kind of blows my mind to think about, cleaning is often the longest part of preparing and eating food for me. I hate doing it and I will choose what I’m cooking and how to cook it based on the dishes in prepared food to wash up.

          My partner once asked why the carrots I cook are always chipped in a rustic style …because I’m not dirtying a chipping board for a carrot, I fruit ninja that shit.

          But I’ve come to find the cleaning up therapeutic, it makes me feel like the process is over, it’s a sense of completion and a job well done.

          That said, it’s only therapeutics when it’s my dishes, and I’ve got a clean kitchen. If I’m working around, or expected to deal with someone else’s dishes, I’m having a protein shake for dinner, because I will lose my temper at inanimate object trying to cook in someone else’s mess or having to do 2-3 loads of dishes so I can eat 1 meal.

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        They’re only useful for parties imo. Otherwise you put your spatula (or whatever) in the dishwasher and have to wait all week for the dishwasher to fill up with all the other dirty dishes just so you can have your clean spatula back. But yes in the US they are in every kitchen.

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          I’m a single person and my regular sized dishwasher runs 1-2 times a week. I use a lot of bowls while cooking and containers for leftovers and stuff. Pots fill the lower floor up pretty quickly. Pans, knifes and anything wooden I wash by hand. I could live with a smaller dishwasher but then it would run even more frequently. I can’t imagine a life without one.

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          There are 2 of us in the house and we try to run the dishwasher every day. If you cook your own meals you can easily fill the dishwasher daily.

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          I like mini dishwashers, since its generally only one days worth, two st most of dishes. Rinse, put in washer, done and ready to go by the next day!

          Why not just handwash the dishes you might ask? Because my roommate will openly judge me!

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    Nevermind the purple, although it’s ugly as hell, but having that dead space in the corner doesn’t leave much room for prep work, since both ends are also basically useless for anything you actually do in the kitchen except perhaps as temporary storage. This leaves you with exactly one place to actually prep on, and it’s not exactly a large one either.

    We also know full well that the corner would be full of appliances as well, which leaves us with even less room.

    Shitty kitchen all around, imo.

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    Ngl, i love unconventional house designs like this. it hurts to look at.

    And thats exactly why I like it. I want people to enter my house and immediately get overstimulated with a headache. Every room is either a color theme or a specific style.

    “and over here we have the kawaii gamer themed room, and here we have the Punk Anarchy themed room, And to the right you will find the Lisa Frank themed bedroom…”

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    Being that purple is my favourite colour, I’m this one’s target demographic. Unfortunately I’m too poor to be purchasing real estate 🤷

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    My question isn’t their taste, but their budget. How the hell did that kitchen cost $15,000? Even if they had to replace everything I couldn’t see it being more than $5k.

    Is the floor also marble?

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      15k is a very normal price to flip an entire kitchen. Not even counting the appliances. Just the flooring and cabinets.

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          If you keep all the existing appliances and build your own cabinets while already having all the requisite tools and do absolutely everything yourself, it’s doable, but tight. Shits expensive these days.

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            Building your own cabinets will be monumentally more expensive unless you are an experienced cabinet maker with a bunch of tools already.

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      Lol when was the last time you priced out a kitchen remodel? 5k would maybe get you the cabinets

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        It was admittedly a while ago, but pre-built cabinets are like $200 a piece so there’s maybe $1500 worth of cabinets there. It’s not a huge kitchen.

        Unless these idiots bought custom made cabinets, didn’t bother doing anything to the left of the stove, and then painted them a horrible color.

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          Those are definitely custom to fit that space and accommodate the sink/hood. Though why there’s such a big stile against the wall left of the range is beyond me. Shit planning and taste.

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            With custom cabinets they would be able to fill that gap on the left and also use smaller filler for the bottom cabinet left of the range. For pre-fabricated cabinets they usually only have size increments of 3" so you end up with big fillers. The sink area upper cabinets look like a standard size and the hood cabinet is actually wider than the hood so it definitely wasn’t made custom to this hood.

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            If there was an outlet there, I could see that spot being meant for an appliance like a microwave or something. But I can only see one wall outlet in the entire kitchen.

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        No, I just do a lot of stuff myself. I could do better than that kitchen for $5,000 with some smart shopping and elbow grease. I redid the floors, bathroom, and kitchen in an 1860s cabin for that much back in 2013

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          Yes, 2013 is indeed the past. Inflation, shrinkflation, and price gouging has driven prices up and quality down

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          2013 was over a decade ago we’ve went through both a housing crisis and record levels of inflation since then.

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          The most expensive part here is the countertops, which is pretty hard to do on your own, especially if you’re doing stone (super heavy, special tools to cut to size, etc). That alone is probably $3-5k.

          The rest is pretty easy to DIY:

          • decent laminate flooring that looks like wood - <$1/sq ft; hard wood is $2-4/sq ft - <$500 including any tools, fixes to subfloor, etc
          • cabinet doors (assuming you don’t need to replace the whole thing) - $25/door, plus cost of paint/stain (idk, $50? $100 max?); looks like ~$500 for the above kitchen?
          • sink, faucet, etc - quite variable, but probably <$500 even for fancier options

          So you could probably do <$5k if you’re in the budget range, <$10k for something a bit nicer, assuming you DIY most of it. This doesn’t count appliances and whatnot, which IMO shouldn’t be part of a reno unless you’re specifically planning to change the size of the appliances (e.g. you want an in-set oven, larger fridge, built-in stove, etc).

          If you ask a contractor, they’ll probably say $15-30k, and it could go up from there.

          This is just some back-of-the-napkin math after some light browsing on Home Depot.

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            One way I saved a ton of money adding a kitchen was to get cabinets and counters from people who were redoing their kitchen. Got that for the price of hauling it away. I also got 1000 sq ft of solid oak tongue-in-groove flooring for $250 from someone who overbought for their own home improvement project.

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              Nice!

              The more time you take to look, the more deals you can find. If you’re planning to DIY, it’s usually best to do things one-at-a-time so you don’t end up with a half-finished project, but instead have small, attainable goals that can be 100% completed in a short period. For example, don’t redo the countertops, cabinets, and floors at the same time, just complete one completely before moving on. That said, if you’re going to hire someone, do it all at once, you’ll end up paying less overall, though you’ll probably blow your initial budget.

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            IMO, if you don’t have the time, don’t do the reno, unless there’s something really dangerous that needs to go, or you have a lot of money. Having a nicer looking kitchen isn’t worth adding even more debt, and it’s most likely not going to pay for itself when you sell (and why would it? The buyer would factor the reno in to the purchase price).

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      2-3k to paint existing cabinets, new hardware 4-5k epoxy floor and countertops 4-5k new appliances 3-4k left for drywall, paint, lighting, trim, framing, hvac, plumbing, electrical.

      She could have gotten more for less but not by much when you are hiring it all out. Doesn’t even look like she touched the tile backsplash, which would be 1-2k more.

      I remodel kitchens in the midwest, and we would charge a lot more than that for this size kitchen. She clearly didn’t spend for a designer, though.

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        Damn, I should get into home improvement. I always did all that myself which is why my estimate was so low.

        Plus that doesn’t look like a terribly expensive stove or sink.

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        2-3K for paint?

        You’re getting reamed by your painter if he’s charging you 2-3k for a small room like that.

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          I think that’s an average professional price for my area, but there’s always a cheaper painter. Spraying cabinets the right way is a big nasty job. Thankfully we don’t do it much anymore.

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            I finish my own cabinets, so maybe I’m just out of touch. But materials alone is only like a hundred bucks or so, and a company already owns the compressor and paint sprayer. I don’t think I’d pay more than 1k, it better be fucking Van Gogh painting my cabinets for anything over that.

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                I would honestly probably take that, but I highly doubt we live in the same area. I’d also practice on my own kitchen first, just to make sure I don’t screw yours up.

                Contractors charge a ton these days and it makes no sense to me. I’d hire out the countertops (one drop and I’m out $3k), but the rest would probably take 2 full days of work, plus maybe one or two partial days on either end for planning and cleanup/touchups. With less than half of that being parts (I think $7k is a decent high estimate), that would probably be like $300/hr, a little less if I rent tools instead of buying them.

                I think contractors charge so much because work can be hit and miss, but if it’s a side hustle, there’s no reason to charge so much.

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      Lol an IKEA kitchen now a bit bigger than that is 10k€ without placement and composite counters and no floor. Prices have over doubled in the past 5 years. + floor and actual stone countertop is easily 15k

      We are renovating our entire house and doing everything except pouring concrete slabs and our tile roof ourselves and the kitchen this big + and island is 15k€ at good value places, slightly better places are 25k+ with placement.

      5k is an absolute pipe dream. Wholesale materials alone without appliances would be around 9k (assuming decent quality cupboards and real stone)

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        That assumes you’re starting with new as opposed to reclaimed materials. I saved a bundle by taking someone else’s old kitchen cabinets and reusing them.

        But, as I said in another comment, I am an old person who used to buy gas for less than 25¢ per liter and do everything myself so my prices are skewed.

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    NGL I would love that kitchen.

    But what does the rest of the house look like.

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        I’m in the middle of building new cabinets for my kitchen and I was freaking out over what the wood I’m using costs (about $25 for each 8’x1’ plank) until I priced even the shittiest prebuilt cabinets at Lowe’s. Holy fuck those things are expensive, and they’re just shitty pressboard.

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          What kind of wood are you buying that’s $25 for 8’x1’? There are hardwood options in the $1.5/foot range, so you must be getting something kind of fancy.

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            This stuff, definitely not fancy at all - in fact barely acceptable for cabinetry. I don’t know where you’re getting your wood, but you can’t get 12" wide 3/4" planks for anything close to a buck fifty a foot where I live. This is the closest thing to it at Lowe’s, and it’s absolute garbage, full of knots, badly warped and not even an actual foot wide. Even poplar would be more than twice as much for 6’ boards, and oak would be three times as much. The manufactured stuff I listed is at least straight and unwarped and it’s a full 12" wide.

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                The wood I linked I’m just using to frame out the cabinets themselves. It would be much too crappy to make the doors out of, although I probably would have considered it if I hadn’t found a full kitchen’s worth of good-quality cabinet doors on Craigslist for $250.

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      I see no before picture so I assume the marble flooring and countertops. Plus the mosaic backsplash tiling maybe? And it’s entirely possible those are brand new cupboards.

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        Not sure of that is real marble, but here’s a random PSA anyway:

        Don’t put marble anywhere close to anywhere you might spill anything remotely resembling acid. You can literally etch that stuff with OJ.