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    Newspapers need to just call RFK jr what he is - a child killer. Forget about this raw milk stuff and lay out the direct harm he has caused including deaths of babies from his vaccine misinformation.

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    Try listening to the Behind The Bastards podcast about this guy if you can spare the time.

    He is messed up far more than you think.

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        Unless he also outlaws pasteurized milk, I’ll have 0 sympathy for any adults that die drinking raw milk. This country seems to be in dire need of a toxic cleansing. I’m sad COVID didn’t do the job better.

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          Dude, you have to be careful these days. Reading labels like a hawk.

          National pharmacy chains like CVS and Walgreens stock homeopathic and naturopathic remedies on the same shelves as the actual medicine (or the bullshit they tell us is as good as pseudoephedrine. Fuck you, you know it’s not). Most of it is barely labeled as such.

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            If we are hopeful, that’s what RFK should go after in fact. Homeopathy.

            But, judging from where he starts, skoleotherapy, as in worm treatment, is the new fashion for you.

            I wanna play Plague Inc again.

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          While I get it and I wish people were more informed it’s because education has been dismantled on purpose. No one deserves do die, especially from the actions of others directly or indirectly. We really need to fight for better education standards and not stop, not go and dismantle the department of education…

          The only thing covid did was fhinder education with online classes and such. This is the year that the children born (19/20) right at the start of the pandemic are going to kinder they need all the support they can get…

          lets be better and do better, you can’t fight fire with fire…

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            My (night school) education, personally, improved quite a lot with COVID. Yep, it was disrupted. But instead of spending two hours in transport I’d be at my desk. Instead of just sitting in a boring depressing auditory with my ADHD, ASD and possibly PTSD, I was at my desk with tea and my laptop and maybe some food and my dog nearby.

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              Be stirring as the time; be fire with fire; Threaten the threatener and outface the brow Of bragging horror

              Shakespeare

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      You haven’t really tasted milk until you’ve sucked it right out a cow and finally we’ll have a government that makes sure that Americans know that taste too.

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        I’ve had fresh milk from the cow. I also now why pasteurization is required. I’m willing to forego that small pleasure in order that other people don’t die horribly.

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          Shifting yourself to death is what the founder intended and their imagined intent is literally all that matters.

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      This is a situation where we let Darwinism take it’s course. The people who are stupid enough to listen to this are going to drink it, get sick, and then wonder what happened. Maybe I’m more negative than usual, but fuck em. Let them fuck themselves.

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      Yeah but we’re talking about stupid people. In their brains they’re probably convinced that milk is not heat treated to kill pathogens but because of government population control or something.

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    I’m fairly certain, they just all got together to make a list of all the stupid things they could do to own the libs.

    The neat thing about this one, is that It only hurts the people that are going to follow him. The people who didn’t vote for that side know better.

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        Yeah, my anarchocommunist cousin had to have explosive diarrhea like half a dozen times before she’d admit it was raw milk causing it.

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        Get ready, there’s going to be a whole lot of peeling off the warning labels.

        I wonder, well they outright outlaw vaccines, or they just be privatized only…

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          RFK’s version of the conspiracy is that vaccines are a scam inflicted by private pharma. Given his druthers, he would probably outlaw not just vaccines, but all corporation-produced medicine.

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        Mfw the lefty “natural” bullshit peddled by health nuts gets tacit approval from my conservative parents trying to eat “traditionally” aka raw everything.

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        Most of those people are now all in for Trump. I’m not even sure I’d call them “left” in the way that people mean anyway, even before they became Trump supporters.

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      Unfortunately, vaccines aren’t all 100% protective. And there are people who get the disease even though they were vaccinated. That means that the idiots who don’t get vaccinated can spread the virus to people who wouldn’t have gotten sick otherwise. Which of course doesn’t mean that vaccination is bad, only that it is not perfectly protective. For example, I have had all the Covid vaccinations up to the day I got Covid. I only knew I had Covid because my wife, who was one booster behind me, got sick with Covid so even though I felt fine, I tested and saw that I also had Covid. But the vaccine kept me from getting sick.

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    Trump wants the population to be closer to 100 million. He said that before the start of one of his press conferences to a journalist … something to the effect that “we could use 2/3 less of all of you.”

    He is willing to kill off a lot of us to make his life easier. The USA elected a right wing Pol Pot.

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      You’ll work harder with a gun in your back,

      For a bowl of rice a day,

      Slave for soldiers til you starve,

      Then your head is skewered on a stake

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      And if you kill off brown people, you solve their demographic “issue” (it’s not actually an issue, they’re just racists). Two birds with one stone.

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    Go ahead. Let your anti science cultists get themselves sick. I don’t fucking care anymore.

    It feels like we’re living in the middle of one of those cultist documentaries, where 29 years from now the stupid fucks that survive are going to be on camera going “I know it sounds weird, but it was really compelling at the time”. Except this cult doesn’t even have fun drug fueled orgies.

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      I’ve been involved in a number of cults both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower but you make more money as a leader.

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      I’ve seen a documentary about the Jan 6th timeline and one insurrectionist said this in an interview. He couldn’t think anymore and everything about it seemed like the best thing since the invention of toast. He allegedly saw his errors in hindsight. I’m more than convinced he is back in the cult. Can’t fix stupid.

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      He’s going to be in a position where he may actually be able to ban pasteurized milk, vaccines, and more.

      This is the most dangerous political appointment in US history.

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      Except this cult doesn’t even have fun drug fueled orgies.

      Drugs may be bad for one’s health, but orgies are good. So yes please. I’ll be the cult leader with prima noctae right.

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    Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

    I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows’s teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three “city cows”. Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.

    Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.

    The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.

    My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig… cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell…then go to the butcher shop’s trash bin and learn that smell…then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you’re smelling. Makes me wanna puke 🤮 just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don’t go down easy. That’s one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you’re gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would…as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don’t go down quietly.

    Anyway don’t eat animals, but if you’re gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it’s pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree 💯👍.

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      Yeah the state of factory dairy’s… You want that shit pasteurized. Feces everywhere. Cows have all kinds of diseases. Filthy environment. It all gets killed or deactivated by pasturing.

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        So do you think Trump will improve or worsen animal-welfare protections in agriculture? Which policy will let bad actors make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of us?

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          He signed a law against very specific animal torture of pets (don’t look it up) in his first term. He also signed a very specific law for increasing the speed of pig slaughter lines IIRC. So no. Livestock animals will be even more fucked (if that’s even possible in the US) as he is in the hands of big animal ag. He loves his farmers in Iowa as he said recently. Now is the best time to look up how to go vegan. Or the worst considering the drop in availability of alternative meat products that’s about to come. Remember if you don’t pay for it animal ag has to consider their practices. A big producer of meat products in Germany (Rügenwalder)has a lot of its productline switched to plant based in the last years because of the demand.

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          I can’t imagine it’s going to be any better. I’m not sure I even find US/Can doing enough as is.

          When we have a disease like bird flu roll through our herds, it seems like we just throw up our hands and say “oh well pasturing deactivates it”

          But you still have a sick cow, even if they aren’t obviously symptomatic. They will produce less, treatments for other stuff will be less effective, they will be less healthy. And at the scale of most farms, all that has an effect. It just gradually makes things harder for farmers.

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      Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

      Yeah, we’ll just make sure that the cows are healthy using the USDA’s regulatory capabilities. After Trump fires all of the career experts and replaces them with sycophants. What could go wrong.

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      Same friend got in trouble for shooting milk from the cow onto incoming city traffic in front of his house. All this as pre-teen kids ofcourse. You wouldn’t find a self respecting adult…yes you probably would.

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    The fact that will even entertain this and other anti-scientific consensus bullshit in the conversation is the poison in the well.

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    If I and my friends and family could be certain of getting immunized against the inevitable H5N1 pandemic, this wouldn’t bother me so much. But RFK jr. will combat the flu with honey and whole grains and the death toll will make Covid look like a cold. Thinning the herd. Maybe we’ll get lucky and RFK jr & Trump and his true believers will get it first.

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      Hilariously, they’ll be culling their own herd, so to speak. You just know the MAGAts will never wear masks again, even to save their own lives.

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        Only if there’s things like vaccines for the rest of us, which we only got when we did due to the government.

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          Fair point. It’s going to be an absolute shitshow. If worm brain and felon fuckrat eviscerate the FDA, I don’t even know vaccines would continue to exist in the US.

          Certainly, pharmaceuticals have a vested interest in continuing to produce them. Best case, they defer to regulatory standards from other nations and the FDA becomes a rubber stamp agency. Worst case, they’re allowed to peddle dangerous products without proper trialing.

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      That doesn’t matter. What matters is that they get their way. We have to just sit on our hands and let them hurt enough people to make MAGAs switch allegiances. Or just let them keep killing people until there aren’t enough functional MAGAs left to make any meaningful opposition.

      There is no point to argue with them. Just let them do it.

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      You certainly may drink raw milk if you like, but it may always come with a nasty risk. Plus it doesn’t keep as well, so if it isn’t stored perfectly, you might have a 12 dollar gallon of foul white liquid.