• Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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    6 hours ago

    I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.

    This country was founded by terrorists.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”

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      6 hours ago

      … and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!

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      13 hours ago

      funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids

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        Do you actually have a point? Innocent children slain: bad. Evil leech that has a large part in oppressing us - maybe not so bad.

        Do you really think the dude being white has anything to do with it? Pretty sure “CEO of health insurance company” is a sufficient descriptor and race has nothing to do with it

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    14 hours ago

    That might be a good thing, because making a terrorism charge stick is going to be should in a just world be really really difficult.

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    14 hours ago

    It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

    🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶

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      12 hours ago

      For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

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    14 hours ago

    Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.

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    15 hours ago

    I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

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      13 hours ago

      That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.

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        The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh

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    18 hours ago

    What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?

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    19 hours ago

    Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.

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    19 hours ago

    Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.

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      16 hours ago

      If you say “Gitmo Bay” three times in the mirror, a dark universe Obama appears and snatches you.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      The unconstitutional Patriot Act says they can do that to citizens too, as long as they’re suspected of terrorism. That’s why everything is “terrorism” these days, because under that accusation they’ll strip you of your constitutional rights and do whatever the fuck they want. It’s tyranny.

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        15 hours ago

        Still, as a person not interested (usually) in agreeing with my counterparts, notice how this is a “good guy with a gun” situation. So maybe militia movement has a point. They just don’t know how to use their correctness outside of their one part of society’s fabric, but that’s up to those who know those other parts. Cooperation and collaboration, all that.

        And almost any “good guy with a gun” can be called a terrorist formally. It’s an arbitrary separation.

        So maybe gun rights really are human rights.

        You’ve probably noticed how in any group the best decisions are made when every opinion is respected, and if it’s incomprehensible, made comprehensible with good and kind effort, and where aggression and expulsion are minimized.

        It’s the same in politics.

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            Yes, my aunts, uncle and cousin live in a country reproducing “Animal farm” the last 6 years, with the end goal of being occupied and turned into a reservation. That book is more like reality than many would think.

      • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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        14 hours ago

        Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.

        Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.

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            12 hours ago

            Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success

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              Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.

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      19 hours ago

      If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn’t be doing this

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      Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.

      This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.

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      12 hours ago

      You know that the gun was printed right? You could ban all guns and you would never stop someone from making a homemade gun.

      There are people in European countries where it’s completely illegal to even own ammunition, they are perfectly able to make fully automatic rifles.

      I don’t say any of this as a bad thing btw

      Unless there is a plan to strip violent people of firearms, I’m going to continue to make my own and train twice as much as they do.

      ARM THE LEFT

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      22 hours ago

      Too many guns, too many people willing to shoot those guns, not enough politicians prioritizing mental health

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        Gun was printed. Do you realize that there is no stopping 3D printed guns now?

        I’ve been in the community for many years, reluctantly due to their right wing tendencies. People are making 50 cal sniper rifles, 38 mm grenade launchers, and fully automatic submachine guns.

        My little AR pistol runs at 10 rounds per second. Legally

        All at home.

        The Glock used by Luigi is an old design. He just made the most reliable one (ignoring the silencer issues)

      • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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        21 hours ago

        Mental illness like forcing your employees back into the office when they did the job remotely just fine for two years