What confuses me most is calling women of botox-using age “girls”.
A lot of people use “boys” and “girls” to refer to men and women of all ages.
House of Fools S2E2:
JULIE: So, Vic, how much younger do you think I’ll look?
VIC: Well, you won’t look a lot younger, Julie, but you will look a lot more alert and surprised.
JULIE: Fabulous, because there’s a new fishmonger in town and I want to look surprised and startled when he shows me his turbot.
Very funny joke about this in 28 Years Later.
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A soldier shows a kid (who has been on the island in quarantine) a picture of his (modern day Botox using) girlfriend on his phone.
The kid asks “what is wrong with your girlfriend?”
The soldier thinks nothing is wrong. “She’s beautiful what do you mean?”
The kid then tells a story about a woman who looked like that in his small village when she ate shellfish.
I was just telling my wife about this scene today. She had a woman at her work with massive fake tits today. Bigger than her body kind of huge. As she was telling me about her she said “who wants a plastic woman?”…the perfect segway for this scene.
Well now, fake tiddies, I’ll allow it.
Can’t believe people are so lazy, they are implanting water beds into their bodies.
No successful Botox doctor is going to be this honest. It’s bad for business.
the OP is a fairly well known stand up. this is a joke
The contract must have already been signed.
It’s not a one-and-done treatment. You need to keep going back, so the doctor’s incentivised to make sure you still want to come back.
Botox injections are used as a treatment for migraines sometimes, so it wouldn’t be that weird for this conversation to happen in that context. (I know it’s a joke)
Keep em trapped with fear of ugliness.
when ironically the shit is making most of them uglier.
like, what the fuck is this even?
https://www.thelist.com/1784977/kristi-noem-unrecognizable-throwback-pic-before-plastic-surgery/
She’s an actual monster. I think it’s more than Botox though. Prob fillers and surgery were on the roadmap to the Frankenstein we see today
it’s a whole bucket of rotting assholes isn’t it?
trump’s cankles are about to rupture
stephen miller is completing is transformation into nosferatu as the final vestiges of humanity drain from his skinsuit
His press secretary is a bleached blond hate chihuahua
thanks conservatives.
I’ve never heard of a botox doctor before, I’m sure something like this has been said to patients by a ton of successful dermatologist and other doctors that can administer botox though
I personally would rather not be 45 and look like a 28 year old lizard, but that’s just me
What about looking like a 50 year old lizard?
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And now I can’t unsee it. Well done.
Lovense Edge 2!
Is the 4th the cowgirl position?
But think of all the time and energy you’ll save having only one facial expression.
Hey, maybe some men are into women licking their own eyeballs.
Well I am now
That’s not a thing I’m into, but now I’m curious
no one linked the actual source?
I’m perfectly fine with looking my age. I have earned every day of my age, dammit!
yep. I’m not aged, but my body shows the miles, and I have zero concern about the people who judge looks. I clean up nicely a few times a year.
Any time an older person says “getting old sucks!” I respond with “it’s better than the alternative!”
Never fails to get a laugh
Madonna vs Pamela Anderson, the comparison is insane.
Pamela Anderson has had plenty of work done, just better work.
Some of it is better.
Do guys get Botox? I’ll admit at my mid 40s, I look like I’m in my mid 40s. I’m too lazy to pursue getting Botox but I like the mental fantasy of magically looking 10 years younger.
My mom stopped coloring her hair as soon as they started graying, because she wants to “look her age”. Take from that what you want.
I can’t say who’s better one is just shaved 🤷🏼♀️
Before is his (mostly) natural face.
After looks like he’s wearing a mask of himself over his own face
There’s a classic survivorship bias where people think all Botox is bad because we always see the obvious gaffs and just assume that good Botox is natural. Botox is a lot more common than people think, it’s usually just a touch-up
That being said. It puts me off how often you see celebrities with botched jobs. You would think that with all the resources at their disposal they would get the best. And if the best cant do it at least 90% of the time there’s no way you’re putting me under the needle of whoever I can afford.
Not that I really have a strong desire to get Botox right now, but I don’t know who I’ll be in the future.
The thing about plastic surgery is that even if it’s well-done, it doesn’t last very long. A person’ face continues to change, sometimes even more rapidly than would otherwise have happened because of all the damage and trauma caused by the surgery itself. So when you see someone with “good” plastic surgery, you’ve really just captured them at that brief moment in time before it all goes to shit.
Body dysmorphia due to yes-men around you and the plastic surgeon doing what customer wants.
If there’s anything other than simply “very damaged personalities,”I think it’s probably a sense that as celebrities they need to freeze time or even turn it back to stay competitive in their field. When cosmetic procedures work, it’s because doctors communicate the limits of what can be achieved while passing for natural, the patient accepts that, and the work is done well. If any of those pillars breaks, it looks bad. If any of them breaks for a celebrity, it goes viral.
How horrifying
Oh god, it’s like the before and after of ecce homo
Most celebrities have gotten some type of Botox or filler, but don’t expect it to make you look magically younger. Depending on your face, the doctor, and luck it can look you younger but realistically it’ll make you look different
Yeah, that’s a good way to describe it. You may look like someone who is in their 30s, but it’s not going to turn back time and make you look exactly like you when you were in your 30s. It’s more like makeup - you can look good, but you’re going to be altering the superficial structure of your face to do it.
Yeah guys get Botox.
I’m older lady and get seen as younger, but it’s years of Retin-A and sunscreen and fitness. Occasional peels, micro needling, hotshot skincare but I don’t love what Botox does to faces. If I was swimming in money I’d eventually get a facelift, but still would never want to do fillers or botox. Maybe the “biostimulatory” fillers that improve skin without adding volume if we ever get them here. Basically - I’m not opposed to interventions but specifically don’t like the Botox look.
To myself I look my age but good for my age, not younger. But others seem to interpret that as younger.
This is the way to go IMO, live your age! People obsessed with being 20 when they are 40 (for example) probably need a shrink not a face lift.
Sunscreen (or just staying out of the nuclear reactors fallout, my skin is so white) and no stress is what I use 😎.
Botox really can help you look younger - it’s not magic though, it’ll never take you back to your 20s, and if you go overboard or it’s poorly done you’ll wind up with the classic botox lizard skin look (which generally means don’t cheap out & vet your clinic). For touchup work though, and combined with a good (and sane) skincare regime, it can get some very impressive results.
(Personally I don’t do it, but family members that do have found it really helps with their dysphoria about aging so… there’s that!)
classic botox lizard skin look (which generally means don’t cheap out & vet your clinic)
I saw “lizard skin” and initially read that as “don’t cheap out on your vet clinic”.
Also, dont get it done at some shitty medi-spa clinic that shares a parking lot with a Jimmy Johns. Go to a real dermatologist, a good one.
Yes it costs more, but it is your face. Not a thing you really want to cheap out on.
Beware places offering botox that also sell stupid stuff like led masks, overpriced skincare from weird brands that YouTube influencers peddle. Dont get it done at the dentists office (yes, some do it), dont get it done at a salon or chiropractor.
Dermatogist. A good one.
my advice, personally? if you’re curious, get a Botox injection. it is temporary, exceedingly well-studied, and generally does not interact with any other precription medicine. If you don’t like it, it will wear off, just don’t get it again and you’re gold.
however, do NOT get fillers done, because from what research has been coming out over the past few years, the general consensus is that fillers do not break down in the body, and merely migrate when the dermis loses tensity. you will almost certainly need to get them surgically removed, and that shit isn’t as easy as just injecting it back out. Though, I understand that recent studies have opened up a method of using some new kind of radio wave mapping to determine where all the filler went so that they can actually suck it back out piece by piece.
Realistically, I should just do some type of facial skincare routine. I just wash my face and use face cream occasionally but I think I’ll google men’s skincare or something. I imagine it’s good for you but I’m not putting in the effort of a Botox or similar. I have other stuff I should probably prioritize first like trying to go vegetarian.
I answered higher up, but sunscreen (I use mineral sunblock but the Korean chemical sunscreens are really good too) in the morning, and Retin-A (prescription 0.1%) at night are for sure the two best things you can do to keep your skin in good shape. Consistency really pays off. Even if you sometimes forget the sunscreen - putting it on day after day with a few misses is better than using it only when you think you need it.
Men’s face skin is slightly thicker than women’s but otherwise the same, and superficially the same.
Appreciate the response. I did search for a routine earlier and have a Retinol cream on the way. I also found a recommendation for eye cream as well so I’ll give that a try too. I forgot about the Korean sunscreen options as I read on Lemmy a while back that (in general) they tend to be of higher quality than anything domestic.
Worked with a guy a while back who got Botox. Guy was in his late 20s and hated his “wrinkles”.
It’s addictive, according to him.
Yes, guys get Botox but there are things that are more attractive: handle nose hair, pluck ear hair, trim eyebrows, whiten teeth, remove skin tags, get a decent haircut regularly, work out.
You didn’t even say do something about thinning hair, fuck yeah I got this down
Don’t worry about thnning hair, just take care of what you have!
It’s a toxin that’s injected into your body, so personally I wouldn’t recommend it to any gender…
Everything’s a toxin at a high enough dosage. And even at that dosage they can still be therapeutic. See: chemotherapy, as an extreme example.
With botox specifically, it has applications outside of just making lizard-faces. Off the top of my head, it’s used as a treatment for migraines by injecting it into the back of the scalp - any swelling/filling effect it has is concealed by the hair anyway, unless the patient is bald.
Everything’s a toxin at a high enough dosage.
Stop there with the excuses, it’s get’s used because it’s high enough dose to cause harm.
Right, yeah, I am talking about purely cosmetic uses. There’s always a risk associated with a botox injection, but if it can heal something or mitigate a different risk, it may be worth it.
And botox is injected at a dosage where it is toxic. That’s how it paralyzes the muscles. If it’s accidentally injected into a vein or at somewhat too high of a dosage, you can have complications like botulism or death.
Botox is a paralytic that affects the muscle it’s injected into. It does not do anything to skin, it just paralyzes the muscles in your face so you can’t make the facial expressions that lead to wrinkles. The migraine prophylaxis treatment is based on the migraines stemming from tension headaches, so if you get headaches from something else, the Botox treatment won’t work.
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And yet you… still got the Botox?
Vanity is a bitch. She also might have asked after getting it.
That was my interpretation, but at that point wouldn’t she already know how she looks?
Most botox patients are there for therapeutic reasons; it’s a common and (if it works for you) extremely effective treatment for chronic migraines.
It’s also used for people who grind their teeth and clench their jaws at night. Injecting it into the jaw muscles can reduce the damage to teeth and tempomandibular joints.
cheap, too. it’s just processed Clostridium botulinum poison; you can brew that in large vats for pennies on the dose. In some cases, it’s cheaper to make than pills.
It might be cheap to make, but its absolutely not a cheap procedure for any of the medical applications I know of. The drug itself is around 1k for the low end of the typical therapeutic dose, and a lot of insurances (if you’re in the US) want you to jump through hoops to pay for it.
It’s effective if your headaches are tension headaches. It works by paralyzing the muscles that pull on your scalp and skull, so if you get headaches from anything besides muscle tension, it’s not going to work for you.
Tension headaches are an extremely common migraine trigger, hence the popularity of using botox as a treatment.
I just wanted to clarify for those folks that have other triggers so that they don’t pursue a treatment that isn’t always covered by insurance and is unlikely to work for them.
Really? Neat.
Asked after the Botox.
